Thread "DrunkDuck advertising on other sites?" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 9:02PM, Feb. 15, 2009

so, a friend of mine was on his facebook tonight, and he called me to tell me there was a DrunkDuck Banner Ad for Powerjeff on the Facebook site.

i though he was just calling to be a jerk, but he read the ad and described the partial image of the latest page i have up right now. he said it looked like it was randomly generated by a program, "Read ____ on DrunkDuck.com *image*".

he went to reload the page to see if the advert would feature another book, but he couldn't get it to come up again.

are we doing adverts on other sites, such as facebook now?

Posted at 10:02PM, Feb. 15, 2009

Must be :)

I dunno. Pretty cool if we are though!
I could find out…
But I don't really want too…

Love the idea. It sounds right. DD does do stuff like that and has in the past in various ways.

Posted at 11:02PM, Feb. 15, 2009

That would be pretty cool. Facebook has pretty good ad software, I get very specific ads because of my affiliation with my university.

I hope this means we'll get more forum people, I would love to have an influx of conversation!

Posted at 12:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

I don't agree with them using OUR comics, without our knowledge and permission, to advertise THEIR service on other sites. (Did the ad link to powerjeff's page, or just the DD main page? DD main page I'm betting.)

On the surface it seems harmless, but I'm not sure that's in the DD usage 'contract' anywhere, and in a way it makes it look like the comic owners are endorsing the ads and site they're advertised on. Facebook isn't very objectionable, but I think there's an ownership/notification issue here. It would have been MUCH better if they had at least asked the comic owners' permission before using them for advertising. Most people would happily say yes.

Posted at 1:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

I don't agree with them using OUR comics

Spoil sport :(

Posted at 1:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

Well, personally, I'd be fine with them using Living With Insanity to advertise DD if they asked me first (and also if they linked right to LWI, but that probably won't be happening). But to do otherwise seems a little amoral, especially if they're using content that they don't own.

Posted at 1:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

I suspect the ads direct people to the work it's advertising.

Posted at 4:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

I suspect the ads direct people to the work it's advertising.

If the banner is auto-generated somehow (as powerjeff's description said it looked a bit like) then it may not be linking to that, it may just be pulling from a pool of randomized images but all linking to DD's main page.

We don't really know what it's doing unless we get hold of Platinum and ask.

Posted at 10:02AM, Feb. 16, 2009

I suspect the ads direct people to the work it's advertising.

If the banner is auto-generated somehow (as powerjeff's description said it looked a bit like) then it may not be linking to that, it may just be pulling from a pool of randomized images but all linking to DD's main page.

We don't really know what it's doing unless we get hold of Platinum and ask.

good luck getting a straight answer out of them.

as far as where it linked to, unfortunately, we didn't get to find out, since in my friend's excitement he reloaded the page. i seriously doubt it would have linked directly to my comic since the description sounded very generic.

personally, i wouldn't mind too much if my book was used in advertising for drunkduck, as long as i knew it was going on. from the sound of things, no one has any clue how or why or when PS started doing this.

Posted at 12:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

I've gotten hold of our contact guy, he tells me that the only DD ad on Facebook should be for Night School, and that Nick and Amy have been involved in that process. Nothing else should be in use. I've copy/pasted your original post to him so he can follow up with the ad guys to find out what happened.

Sorry if I'm depriving you of an ad :] But I don't think they should be putting out ads without the creator's knowledge so wanted to follow up on it.

Posted at 4:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

Skool's a spoil sport like that.

She doesn't drown kittens or puppies though. :)

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Naaw. It was a very responsible thing yo do to find out and pursue that angle.

Posted at 4:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

hopefully json doesn't get any stalkers that want to try to date rape him…
you know how they do on Facebook and all.

Posted at 5:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

When it gets to MySpace, that's when the shadiness starts happening.

Posted at 10:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

hopefully json doesn't get any stalkers that want to try to date rape him…
you know how they do on Facebook and all.

DATE RAPE?!?!
sign me up!!!!!

Posted at 10:02PM, Feb. 16, 2009

Skool's a spoil sport like that.

She doesn't drown kittens or puppies though. :)

She feeds them to Carly.
Speaking of, where is she?

Posted at 10:02AM, Feb. 17, 2009

i advertise drunk duck on my site.

:kitty:

Posted at 10:02AM, Feb. 17, 2009

Plat guys say that the Facebook thing is over, and no ads for DD should be anywhere at this point. If they are still appearing (and especially for comics that were never involved) then something has gone wrong.

They'd like anyone who sees a DD ad to take a screen capture of it so they can chase down wherever/whoever this might be coming from.

Posted at 3:02PM, Feb. 17, 2009

Hey, guys. Just wanted to let you know that we here are not, nor have we been running ads for Drunk Duck on Facebook. There were a few running for the Night School fanpage but I've been told those have ended now. If we did, we definitely wouldn't use any of your artwork without asking first, just like we asked Nick and Amy before doing anything with Night School, even though we were publishing Night School.

If somebody else is running ads for DD there it's not us, nor have they let us know anything about it. When/if anyone sees this again, would you please take a screen shot and PQ me about it? I'd like to find out who and put a stop to it right away. It may be someone trying to do a nice thing, even, but they shouldn't be doing it without our knowledge or using art without talking to the owners about it. We have never and would never do such a thing to you guys.

Posted at 8:02PM, Feb. 17, 2009

Hey, guys. Just wanted to let you know that we here are not, nor have we been running ads for Drunk Duck on Facebook. There were a few running for the Night School fanpage but I've been told those have ended now. If we did, we definitely wouldn't use any of your artwork without asking first, just like we asked Nick and Amy before doing anything with Night School, even though we were publishing Night School.

If somebody else is running ads for DD there it's not us, nor have they let us know anything about it. When/if anyone sees this again, would you please take a screen shot and PQ me about it? I'd like to find out who and put a stop to it right away. It may be someone trying to do a nice thing, even, but they shouldn't be doing it without our knowledge or using art without talking to the owners about it. We have never and would never do such a thing to you guys.

thanks, dan. that's good to know.

i wouldn't have a problem with my art being used for ads…..but it does raise the question that if it isn't you guys at PS, and it isn't us here on DD….then who is earning revenue from the ads? very strange indeed.

Posted at 7:02AM, Feb. 18, 2009

I know Facebook just recently changed their TOS stating they have rights to all images and can use them in any way they see fit…(paraphrased). I wonder if there is a connection between this use of facebook images for advertising and this ad yoor friends saw.

Posted at 9:02AM, Feb. 18, 2009

Do you mean who is paying for the ads, json? Facebook ads are on a CPC (cost per click) and are relatively expensive, given that you can target very specifically the people you want to see your ads. Take a good look at the ads when you're on. Chances are, they have something to do with things you've talked about in your profile or groups you're a member of. I'm extremely curious who would be paying for those.

And, Midge, I don't think it would have anything to do with that. If it was Facebook themselves, why would they use ads to send people to other sites? It's very interesting. I do appreciate the help in trying to solve the mystery, BTW. I'd really like to find out who is doing this.

Json, do you have a facebook fan page for Powerjeff there by any chance?

Posted at 11:02AM, Feb. 18, 2009

I think what json was saying is pretty much what you pointed out with the second part. Who would be paying to place the ads, and what profit would they be hoping to get? There's no one who would do that, logically, unless there's something we don't know.

Posted at 12:02PM, Feb. 18, 2009

Maybee his friend was just pulling his leg, or saw a DD ad and assumed PJ would be on it-and got to excited to notice it wasn't.

Posted at 1:02PM, Feb. 18, 2009

And, Midge, I don't think it would have anything to do with that. If it was Facebook themselves, why would they use ads to send people to other sites? It's very interesting. I do appreciate the help in trying to solve the mystery, BTW. I'd really like to find out who is doing this.

Json, do you have a facebook fan page for Powerjeff there by any chance?

But that's it, his friend never clicked on the ad so we can't confirm if it takes a person to DD. But if json had adverts and images for Powerjeff in relation to DD then Facebook would use those images in their advertising appealing to viewers viewing his page or other suscribers linked to json which may appear as advrtising DD and Powerjeff.
Just a thought.

Posted at 2:02PM, Feb. 18, 2009

Maybe contact Facebook and ask them?