Thread "Crash of the US Economy?" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 7:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5964

Among those poised to profit from the crash is the Carlyle Group, the equity fund that includes the Bush family and other high-profile investors with insider government connections. A January 2007 memorandum to company managers from founding partner William E. Conway, Jr., recently appeared which stated that, when the current Ã¢â‚¬Å“liquidity environmentÃ¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬â€i.e., cheap creditÃ¢â‚¬â€ends, Ã¢â‚¬Å“the buying opportunity will be a once in a lifetime chance.

Acceptance by the U.S. population of diminished prosperity and a declining role in the world. Grin and bear it. Live with your parents into your 40s instead of your 30s. Work two or three part-time jobs on the side, if you can find them. Die young if you lose your health care. Declare bankruptcy if you can, or just walk away from your debts until they bring back debtorÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s prison like theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve done in Dubai. Meanwhile, China buys more and more U.S. properties, homes, and businesses, as economists close to the Federal Reserve have suggested. If youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re an enterprising illegal immigrant, have fun continuing to jack up the underground economy, avoid business licenses and taxes, and rent out group houses to your friends.

Posted at 9:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

Here's the thing about the markets or even individual company stocks: They go up and down A LOT. It just benefits the sensationalist media to make every small flutter and fluctuation look like a giant swing to get a big story.

Posted at 9:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

Over here, house prices are decreasing, healthcare is free and taxes decrease every year. I'm not complaining.

Posted at 10:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

Same here, but you wouldn't know it listening to the political candidates looking to capitalize, and overpaid economic analysts.

Posted at 10:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

So don't listen to them. Just watch the prices of a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, a dozen eggs. You can't even trust gas prices anymore.

Change is coming though… it took a whole generation of NEW kids to grow up and be ready to do it. I think these are awesome times about to happen. I know that sounds too optimistic, considering the state of things… but sometimes you can feel these things in the air, or read between the lines. Something is going to change big time in the USA– and it's about time.

Posted at 11:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

bush is still touting evil terrorists

Posted at 11:01AM, Jan. 29, 2008

yeah, american money is worthless.

so, please paypal me all of your worthless money as soon as possible.
:)

Posted at 4:01PM, Jan. 29, 2008

So don't listen to them. Just watch the prices of a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, a dozen eggs. You can't even trust gas prices anymore.

Change is coming though… it took a whole generation of NEW kids to grow up and be ready to do it. I think these are awesome times about to happen. I know that sounds too optimistic, considering the state of things… but sometimes you can feel these things in the air, or read between the lines. Something is going to change big time in the USA– and it's about time.

I sure hope you're right….
Our healthcare sucks….REALLY sucks….it's bad enough it's not free in the first place. I just saw a guy on the news who has cancer and got MARRIED for the healthcare!

And wait, this is NEW news that our economy blows nowadays? XD

Posted at 7:01PM, Jan. 29, 2008

i've been considering vacating the US for reasons such as these. who will join me? lol!

Posted at 9:01PM, Jan. 29, 2008

i've been considering vacating the US for reasons such as these. who will join me? lol!

You go first, tell me what you find.

Posted at 10:01PM, Jan. 29, 2008

i've been considering vacating the US for reasons such as these. who will join me? lol!

I'll come. Just wait another four years and then I'll meet you.

Posted at 12:01AM, Jan. 30, 2008

i've been considering vacating the US for reasons such as these. who will join me? lol!

and where do you plan to go?

Posted at 1:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

So don't listen to them. Just watch the prices of a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, a dozen eggs. You can't even trust gas prices anymore.

Change is coming though… it took a whole generation of NEW kids to grow up and be ready to do it. I think these are awesome times about to happen. I know that sounds too optimistic, considering the state of things… but sometimes you can feel these things in the air, or read between the lines. Something is going to change big time in the USA– and it's about time.

I sure hope you're right….
Our healthcare sucks….REALLY sucks….it's bad enough it's not free in the first place. I just saw a guy on the news who has cancer and got MARRIED for the healthcare!

And wait, this is NEW news that our economy blows nowadays? XD

That is why its highly advisable to minimize meat intake and eat more vegetables.

Think about how the animals prepared for your food are raised up?

Fine you dont care about animal rights (Its a friggin factory farm and not some open free range farm in most cases) or human rights (illegal workers or new immigrants or young people are most often working for them and are often abused and paid shit wages) but what about the chemicals injected into them to make them grow faster.

Chemicals. Wtf will that shit do to your body?

Sure you may argue that vegetables too are sprayed with pesticides but at least the ill effects are lesser than eating meat.

Seriously when I just ate at Mcdonalds a couple days ago. The quarter pounder made me feel sick. I just wanna drink and drink water constantly.

Also it would be advisable to do at least light exercise at least 20 minutes a day. Just walk. You dont need to be a super athlete or something.

I dont wanna go deeper into so-called paranoid conspiracies but dont you see a co-relation between shitty food and shitty health-care system?

Who is to profit from that kind of setup?

Posted at 3:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

That is why its highly advisable to minimize meat intake and eat more vegetables.

Wouldn't it be far more sensible to buy free-range meat and organic veg, rather than removing an important source of protein?
Another thing…do you happen to know what sort of effect eating battery-farmed meat would have on you?

Posted at 4:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Holy crap, short circuit….you're….smiling……AAAAIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!!! RUN!!

Just kidding, it's just…I've never seen you smiling in your avatar before. It kinda freaked me out. And your hair keeps changing colors. …I like it! :)

Posted at 6:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

That is why its highly advisable to minimize meat intake and eat more vegetables.
Wouldn't it be far more sensible to buy free-range meat and organic veg, rather than removing an important source of protein?
Another thing…do you happen to know what sort of effect eating battery-farmed meat would have on you?

I understand the importance of meat in our diet. Too bad. It sucks that our biological makeup needs meat to survive. I eat small amounts of meat. Only for that purpose.

As for what effects? I speak from experience. The moment I cut down my meat intake I feel healthier. I feel more alert and stronger.

Try cutting down meat intake for a week. Experiment with it. Eat meat only once a day or once every other day.

Posted at 6:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Kyupol: Stop with your conspiracy theory crap.

Everyone else: Stop encouraging him. Also, our healthcare system isn't that bad. Not everyone can get taken care of, yes, but the quality of healthcare for those who CAN get it is far higher when the doctors know they have to do a good job if they want their patients to keep coming back and giving them more money.

Countries with socialized healthcare will slowly see a decline in the quality of their system, since doctors and other healthcare proffessionals no longer have any incentive to do a better job. They get paid what the government pays them, and that's it. So they won't be worried about doing a good job because they get payed the same anyway.

Or at least that's what I've understood to happen. Maybe I'm wrong though.

But however it DOES work, you still don't need to encourage Kyupol's conspiracy garbage.

Posted at 7:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Kyupol's conspiracy garbage.

Have you actually tried doing research?

And by the number of your posts. wow. 6765 posts!!!

Ironic how much "garbage" posts this one has for criticizing my "garbage".

lol! you made my day, pal.

Posted at 7:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Kyupol, you're seeing things that quite simply aren't there. You're going to crazy websites that have no reputation, and no reason for you to believe in them, and listening to whatever they spout.

I'm guessing you believe the National Inquirer?

Posted at 9:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Let him have his day, tis a forum after all. If nobody wants to talk about something then they won't reply. The Admins and Mods are good about cleaning spam threads out so leave it be. Free speech is a right in the USA, regardless of how credible the subject is.

Posted at 11:01PM, Jan. 30, 2008

Let him have his day, tis a forum after all. If nobody wants to talk about something then they won't reply. The Admins and Mods are good about cleaning spam threads out so leave it be. Free speech is a right in the USA, regardless of how credible the subject is.

Yeah, yeah. But if he has the freedom to say crazy things, I have the freedom to call him out on it.

Posted at 3:01AM, Jan. 31, 2008

Can this please be moved to the 'Debate & Discussion' area? It's making my alcoholic succubus angry. Aw, hell, there she goes spilling her drink.

Posted at 5:01AM, Jan. 31, 2008

Kyupol: Stop with your conspiracy theory crap.
…
But however it DOES work, you still don't need to encourage Kyupol's conspiracy garbage.

But it's fun. :/

Have you actually tried doing research?

No, not really, but it doesn't look like you have either.
"Stuff is bad!"
"Really? Why is it bad?"
"Iunno! hur hur hur"

Posted at 1:01PM, Jan. 31, 2008

In the words of Bender Bending RodrÃƒÂguez, "We're Boned". (The final line of dialog in the Futurama movie.)

I'm not so sure how this is going to turn out. Hey, if our economy collapses, at least we won't be able to keep up our "f**k you" themed foreign policy. See, there's good in everything.

Posted at 4:01PM, Jan. 31, 2008

Ugh, you all know they call economics the "dismal science" for a reason ;P. I know things really look bad, but I have a strange sense of optimism, like the moment that everyone realizes the name of the creek we're all up, that's the moment you can't waste.

I have zip proof that people will band together and shed some of this selfish crap, but I feel it's possible.

As for the economy, the thing that really worries me is the growth of the "working poor" or "forgotten class": people who walk the razor's edge everyday. They make just enough to not be on welfare, not enough to have any kind of financial security. They're important consumers and laborers, but their place is so fragile. It's not good to have so much fragility in the economy.