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@ Glarg:

See, that's what I mean. If the zodiac descriptions are truly random bullshit, that description could very well be my sign. In which case, I'd read it and I'd go "That's not me. This is bullshit."
Which is why I'm not Cancer. But my sign's description does fit me.

IT'S CALLED "LUCK" MLAI HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT?

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See though, psychic powers are difficult to prove. You say you had a dream of some kind? Well it's hard for the guy to really tell if you're lying or not. Psychic ability can only really be shown to exist via people's words. It's the sort of thing you either have to experience for yourself or be very gullible to believe in.

Am I saying that I REALLY believe in it? Not necessarily. The things I've dreamed could have just been coincidence. I just don't rule out the possibility just yet.

And most people claiming to be psychics are making it up. Really, I don't think there IS a person who can access whatever dream shit it is at will. It's more of a subconscious thing. That would add to the reasons why your prize money has never been collected. Or it might be that there aren't any psychics. Either one is possible.

in order to prove psychic powers someone would have to predict the out come of various random events and be correct a lot more that someone just guessing.
I don't think you understand "how it works"… There are those who claim to predict the future, there are those who claim to have sensations of events going on that they shouldn't know about, and there are those who claim they can pick up on things going on within another person's mind.

Not all psychics are "I know the future!!! Now cue in the scary thermin music!!!!"


flipping a coin is a nice random event.if someone flips a coin and you choose heads and it is heads you are not psychic. you guessed it out of possible outcomes. now take the coin and flip it 10,000 times. if you correctly guess it all 10,000 times then you might be a psychic provided no cheating was taking place.
Except it's not random. Given time, it will be 50% heads and 50% tails. It's not all that unlikely that someone can guess each one each time, as they have a 50% chance of getting it right on the flip.

People who are incredibly great with numbers have proven that even random number generators tend to pick out certain numbers more often than not. These people have shown incredible intuition in places like Las Vegas because of it.


so now here's a challange for everyone out there. anyone in the whole world. if you pass the challange you'll be rich. if you are psychic or know a psychic or just want to contact a psychic then this challange is for you.
It's more than becoming rich, and those who say, "Oh, I don't use it to get rich because it's unethical!" simply are fakers.


step one - provide me with the winning numbers on the next 5 multi-million dollar NY state lotteries. all winning numbers including the bonus number must be provided in order. i chose 5 to eliminate the chance of guessing correctly one time.
Now you're just trying to use others for your own benefit. As I said, though, it doesn't work that way. You simply don't understand how things work.

Most people who claim to predict the future will tell you that they only see a certain future, and not necessarily the one that is going to happen. For every choice you come to in life and don't make, in theory, must be played in another timeline. It's quite possible these people are seeing possibilities, and since there are too many possibilities in a lottery, they can't pick it up.

For me, personally, it's not about seeing any kind of future.

Besides, you can be tricked with this as it is. There are companies who send out cards with the winning and losing teams for football, soccer, or what have you, and then send out a near identical card with different winners and losers. A certain percentage of people will have a card that is 100% accurate, but the next time they will get one that isn't accurate. Just because you get the numbers, doesn't mean it was predicted.


step two - once i have confirmed that you or the psychic you talked two can accuratly predict the future they will need to provide me with the next 5 sets of winning NY state multi-million dollar lottery numbers. I will then buy 1 ticket for each lottery with the numbers selected and collect the winnings.
Again, this isn't about you proving anything psychic, this is about making yourself rich by using others while pretending to be conducting research. There's other ways to go about it, and many others are actually doing it.


step three - you or the psychic you talked to will then have to provide the winning lotto numbers for the next multi-million dollar lottery drawing from a randomly selected state chosen by me. this will be done to prevent cheating in case you or the psychic you talked to actually are able to rig the NY state lotto.

if you pass all 3 steps i will split the money with you 50-50.

good luck :)
Why would they do all of this for you when they could just do it themselves if it worked that way?


I've gotten people I know creeped out a little bit with things I've told them that I shouldn't know. Am I just good at reading people? Sure I am, but then why can I call up someone out of the blue and tell them not to be smoking two cigarettes at once when they are supposed to be quitting and freak out asking me how I knew they were just lighting two? Or telling my grandmother, "Nammy…I think grampy just cut himself really bad. Hand me a wet paper towel…" only to have him come rushing in two minutes later with a huge cut down his finger?

It's not all about the future. I couldn't tell you what numbers were coming up, and if I could, I wouldn't, because I'd want more of a share for myself.


As for evolution, it's like 95% fact right now though. They've pretty much proven it, what with fossil records and DNA artifacts and the like.
Wow…way off…considering they can't even agree on the evolution of a horse, nor show the exact evolution of a horse, nor find exact proof in the layers of Earth that it happens the way they claim (at least two "evolutions" have been found in strata layers that are below "previous evolutions" have been found).

Did you get that number from Wikipedia, or just your own figuring? I'm not being an ass, I'm just curious.

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As for evolution, it's like 95% fact right now though. They've pretty much proven it, what with fossil records and DNA artifacts and the like.
Wow…way off…considering they can't even agree on the evolution of a horse, nor show the exact evolution of a horse, nor find exact proof in the layers of Earth that it happens the way they claim (at least two "evolutions" have been found in strata layers that are below "previous evolutions" have been found).

Did you get that number from Wikipedia, or just your own figuring? I'm not being an ass, I'm just curious.

I got it from a combination of a lot of things. Various documentaries (On the Discovery and National Geographic channels), science textbooks, that kind of thing. But no Wikipedia, actually. I've never been to the Wikipedia page on evolution.

And so they're not sure what a horse evolved from, so what? That doesn't mean that evolution didn't HAPPEN. Evolution is pretty much a fact now. They aren't alway right about what evolved from what, but they can generally look at and tell that EVOLUTION ITSELF happened. They can look at places where OTHER things have evolved. So what if it's a bit smoggy as to what a horse came from?

As for "previous evolutions", people don't seem to understand exactly how evolution works. Something can EVOLVE from something else without getting rid of the original. When evolution occurs, it's not just "Oh hey, that species used to be monkeys. Now it's people". It's "Oh look that monkey just evolved a bigger brain. Now all of its descendents will have that. Maybe one of those will evolve bipedalism." But the thing is, the ORIGINAL type of monkey could still be there, it's just that the NEW species would be there too. That's not to say that the new species CAN'T displace the old one, but it doesn't ALWAYS have to get rid of them.

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I was actually only being nice in asking

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Evolution is pretty much a fact now.

I think evolution is only part of it. Maybe around 50%. I doubt evolution because it kinda boxes people in. Where is the human spirit in evolution?

We arent just physical matter. Humans have a physical body as well as a spirit.

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Evolution is pretty much a fact now.

I think evolution is only part of it. Maybe around 50%. I doubt evolution because it kinda boxes people in. Where is the human spirit in evolution?

We arent just physical matter. Humans have a physical body as well as a spirit.

NO, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We are NOT doing faith vs science. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Do NOT try to inject religion into science. It's stupid and it helps no one. Stop it.

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And with regards to psychic powers, I believe that everyone has it – to a certain degree of course just like any other talents such as drawing or playing musical instruments. There are n00bs and there are l33t pr0s here. :)

When you say psychic, it isnt all about telling the future, talking to spirits or ETs, or seeing those auras because of opening all 7 chakras, and that psychic surgery stuff.

People at that level are pretty much very advanced. Because if you are weak and you try calling ETs or spirits, they will sense it right away and try to gain control of your body.

The pre-requisite of tapping into the psychic ability is believing in it sincerely. Just like how you sincerely believe that you can draw or play an instrument. Its a learned skill.

Ever heard of that saying 'mind over matter'? And 'What the mind can conceive, the body can achieve'?

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Do NOT try to inject religion into science. It's stupid and it helps no one. Stop it.

Religion and science should close the gaps created between them. That is necessary to attain a higher state of being.

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Do NOT try to inject religion into science. It's stupid and it helps no one. Stop it.

Religion and science should close the gaps created between them. That is necessary to attain a higher state of being.

The thing is, science and religion are basically opposites. Science deals with the quantifiable, things that can be measure and observed directly or indirectly. Science tries to prove or disprove things in order to understand the world around us.

Religion deals with things that CAN'T be measure. Religion deals with faith, with things that cannot be measured or observed, and things which cannot be proven or disproven. Religion is unquantifiable.

Therefore, trying to put religion and science together is impossible. Now if you go and find some way of looking at someone's soul, then we'll talk. Until then, let science be science and stop trying to Jesus it up.

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Astrology will get some people's personality right.
But you can NOT say that it's never wrong.
It's just complete guesses.
Why would the position of Earth make the person's personality different?
Think about it.

Im waiting for the next installment of "Chaos Theory Today" to explain that one. :neenjah:

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@ Midge:

You're being sarcastic or srs?

I was being serious.
I never heard that line before and thought it was clever.

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he thing is, science and religion are basically opposites. Science deals with the quantifiable, things that can be measure and observed directly or indirectly. Science tries to prove or disprove things in order to understand the world around us.

Religion deals with things that CAN'T be measure. Religion deals with faith, with things that cannot be measured or observed, and things which cannot be proven or disproven. Religion is unquantifiable.

Therefore, trying to put religion and science together is impossible. Now if you go and find some way of looking at someone's soul, then we'll talk. Until then, let science be science and stop trying to Jesus it up.

Science deals with the quantifiable. The physical in other words. That which can be seen, heard, smelled, touched, and tasted. Yes. Science tries to prove and explain the world around us. It tries.

Same thing as religion. Religion tries to explain things around us.

Science explains the physical but ignores the spiritual. Religion explains the spiritual but tends to overlook the physical.

I was a skeptic about the spiritual until I felt it for myself. I was an atheist for a brief period of time after getting fed up with praying to God and God not answering my prayers. God does not exist!!!

My experience as an atheist - it wasnt a good experience. I felt this overwhelming sense of emptiness inside me. Depression and suicidal, self-harming thoughts increased. Anti-depressants only solved it temporarily but it kept coming and coming and coming back. You see, that is my spirit trying to send me a wakeup call. It is telling me HELLO!!! I AM HERE!!! STOP IGNORING ME!!!. It is totally different from the portrayals of mental telepathy in the movies. You just instantaneously grasp the information.

The moment I turned back to God, this time in a detatched state. Detached from the repetitive organized religion (Catholicism has alot of repetitive stuff no wonder people get turned off). As in just sitting in the church and meditating. Just sincerely praying and talking to Jesus. While I used to pray for this and that, the 'last chance' I gave God is the sincere prayer to give me strength.

And there. Almost like magic, depression is GONE AWAY! RELIGION HAS SUCCEEDED WHERE SCIENCE HAS FAILED!

There are other things in my life that can prove the existence of spiritual force. I've also experimented with meditation. And if I'm at my most relaxed, concentrated state, I've caused the pillows around me as well as the bed to vibrate. It terrified me at first but I saw it with my own eyes. The pillows and bed are vibrating!!!

That is what done it. Seeing it happen in front of me!!!

I could only imagine the enlightenment that will happen if science and religion would stop bickering with each other. Maybe there could be a scientific.. I mean… NEW discoveries of cures to diseases.

There are legitimate psychic surgeons out there. I believe those healing techniques are done using a combined knowledge of the scientific and spiritual.

And there are cases where people mysteriously heal because of praying to God or a whole bunch of people praying for them.

They could be healed because of an innate ability of the human spirit to do it.

Now that is knowledge that would eliminate most of the diseases of this planet. The unification of the scientific and spiritual/religious.

However, those in power definitely REFUSE to go into that area because they wanna maintain a grip on power. They wanna contain the human population in a state of enslavement.


Btw dude, just reading your posts I can already see the anger and frustration you have. Believe in the spiritual for a change. Sincere belief. Try it and see for yourself.

Keep an open mind and you will find the truth.

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i wonder why they never predict the lotto numbers? oh wait. i know why. it's all fake.

You know what's funny? =D
someone actually predicted the lottery numbers, and gave them to my father once.
the numbers won, but my father never actually put in the numbers.
It must have been a bummer for the lady who gave them to him.

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Honestly Kyupol, I'm just going to say it straight up. You're crazy. GET HELP.

Religion deals with the spiritual, which is not quantifiable. Saying it is is either lies or insanity.

And then you pull in conspiracy theories? And you start to claim that there are psychic doctors?

You really do need to get back on whatever meds you were on. You might have been sad, but at least you weren't BATSHIT FUCKING INSANE.

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There are other things in my life that can prove the existence of spiritual force. I've also experimented with meditation. And if I'm at my most relaxed, concentrated state, I've caused the pillows around me as well as the bed to vibrate. It terrified me at first but I saw it with my own eyes. The pillows and bed are vibrating!!!

That is what done it. Seeing it happen in front of me!!!
If you can really do this (which I sincerely doubt), go get a million dollars from the JREF challenge. Until then, I don't want to hear about how you've "proven" anything.

There are legitimate psychic surgeons out there.
No, there are not. It is a scam that takes advantage of desperate people in their hour of need, and those bastards should be locked up. People with real diseases forgo actual treatment and believe they are "cured" by these tricksters, only to die later when they realize too late that they were never cured at all.

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My experience as an atheist - it wasnt a good experience. I felt this overwhelming sense of emptiness inside me. Depression and suicidal, self-harming thoughts increased. Anti-depressants only solved it temporarily but it kept coming and coming and coming back. You see, that is my spirit trying to send me a wakeup call. It is telling me HELLO!!! I AM HERE!!! STOP IGNORING ME!!!. It is totally different from the portrayals of mental telepathy in the movies. You just instantaneously grasp the information.

that's funny cause i've had the exact opposite experience. my family always went to church and sunday school. it depressed the hell out of me and never made any sense. i guess some people like answers and some people like proof. religion doesn't offer any proof only blind acceptance.

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GET HELP

I always get help. Because I am not perfect.

But if you are referring to psychiatric help, I dont think I need it. I had faith in the psychiatric system before. But it failed to cure my pain. My depression and suicidal thoughts as of this moment are NON-EXISTENT because of the alternative path I took.

I'm telling you. In a depressed state I felt very weak and very old. Science already arrived at a conclusion that mental health affects physical health. Depression can lead to other diseases. That is scientifically proven.

I am not here to say science is wrong. Like what I said earlier, no system is perfect. You are right that science has succeeded in some places where religion has failed. Same holds true vice versa.

That is most importantly why I stress the unification of science and religion. Its like the idea of mixed martial arts (proven in UFC). To be a complete fighter, one must be good in striking, ground fighting, take downs, and weapons.

The same holds true in real life. Conventional religious and scientific systems should be mixed together. Because all of them have barriers erected around them.

And who erects the barriers? Who will benefit from a population that has not attained true freedom?

Knowledge is power.

And you start to claim that there are psychic doctors?

I agree with you about the large amount of fakes out there.

But in the Philippines (and perhaps elsewhere), there are legit ones. Remember, if you study ancient Filipino history, we were setup pretty much like the ancient Greek city states.

Further reading will let you know what kind of punishment awaits liars during those days. Death. No not just death but a slow and painful one. Like getting tied to a tree as the ants eat you little by little.

If they are all fake, then the practice wouldn't have survived to this day. It was during the Christianization of the Spanish conquistadores that demonized that practice. Psychic surgeons, hilots (a healer but cannot do psychic surgery), and even the martial arts were labeled as satanic practices.

Yes the Spanish committed human rights abuses (forced labor, racial discrimination, ubsurdly high taxes and low wages) and corrupted religion into a money-making business. Forcing alot of Filipinos to be an atheist or go back to their ancient religions.

THAT IS WHY ANY RELIGION THAT FORCES YOU TO GIVE MONEY IS FALSE!!! IN A LEGITIMATE CHURCH, YOUR INTELLECT AND FREE WILL IS RESPECTED. SHAMING LANGUAGE IS PART OF FORCING.

that's funny cause i've had the exact opposite experience. my family always went to church and sunday school. it depressed the hell out of me and never made any sense. i guess some people like answers and some people like proof. religion doesn't offer any proof only blind acceptance.

That means you are NOT an idiot who can be brainwashed by repeated rituals. Jesus came to earth and 'died' on the cross. Many people thought that was totally cool and decided to worship him and believe he is the son of God.

However as the years went by, the fallen human nature took over. And turned Christianity into a corrupt institution in the middle ages. The church leaders got filthy rich… while the masses were brainwashed with unending threats of eternal damnation if they did not follow their orders (of course packaged as the 'word of God').

The fall into atheism IMO is like your first step. But I suggest you pray to God OUTSIDE those prescribed rituals.

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Kyupol, I really think you need to go to a psychiatrist. You can keep believing in Jesus or whatever, but you DO need some kind of help. You're saying some things that are completely insane.

I'm saying this for your own good.

Get help.

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They found BigFoot on mars…how will this effect my Zodiac Reading?

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Kyupol, I really think you need to go to a psychiatrist. You can keep believing in Jesus or whatever, but you DO need some kind of help. You're saying some things that are completely insane.

I'm saying this for your own good.

Get help.

Why will I go to a doctor if I'm not sick? If I'm perfectly fine? Why will I tie down the doctor if there are more patients out there who are in the depressive state? You know, people losing jobs, losing family through divorce or death, teenagers who get bullied and feel like shooting up the school, the lonely senior, and many others.

Insane? What is insane?

Thats the problem I see that reeks of possible mind-control/brainwashing.

If someone has a thought pattern that deviates from the norm, he/she needs psychiatric help. Scary thought isnt it. Reminds me of a few progressive countries in Earth's history such as the Soviet Union, North Korea, The Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, Medieval Europe, etc.



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The thing about astrology is that it presents a blueprint - potential, as it were. People change based on their environment, but they can be predisposed to a certain train of thought or quality.

Same with fortunetelling - time passing gives more opportunities to change the future. All a "psychic" can do (if they're actually trying) is show potentials and possibilities. Not everything is set in stone though, and most things are subject to change. A good fortuneteller will help you look for things you may have overlooked, and show you what has the best chance of happening if you continue down a road or contemplate a different one, but nothing is exact and that's something that many people overlook.

IMO, of course.

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If anyone ever feels the need to annoy an astrologer, talking about Ophiuchus is a good first step. It's a constellation next to Scorpio that the Sun briefly wanders through and astrologers tend not to mention it, as it's a bit of a party pooper.

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I feel that if I attempt to piss off an astrologer, they'll suddenly predict my slow, painful and highly entertaining death. Purely coincidentally, of course. >,>
I honestly don't believe in that sort of thing, though I'm also of the opinion that belief does not necessitate existence. Similarly, I don't think you have to believe in something for it to exist; if it's there, it's there, regardless of whether you think it is or not.

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A few years back, I remembered sneezing a lot throughout the day in the office for no apparent reason. When I get back home, I read the newspaper horoscope and it said my star sign alignment would cause me to sneeze a lot.

Pure coincidence or incredibly accurate prediction?

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A few years back, I remembered sneezing a lot throughout the day in the office for no apparent reason. When I get back home, I read the newspaper horoscope and it said my star sign alignment would cause me to sneeze a lot.

Pure coincidence or incredibly accurate prediction?
Well, unless everyone else on earth with the same zodiac horoscope was sneezing a lot too, I'd say it was coincidence. Was one twelfth of the Earth's population sneezing that day?

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