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You're finally getting a change there, good on you. :)
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Congratulations on your elections USA.
Wisconsin passed an amendment to ban gay marriage and other, similar civil unions. Bascially it means that if you've been together with a person (be they gay or straight) for like, 20 years, but not married, and one of you gets into a coma-inducing accident or something, your partner will have no say in what happens to you. The person who knows you best can't choose if you live or die or anything of that nature.
Wisconsin, you disappoint me.
We'll see. The Democrats will have less than 2 years to prove they can accomplish good things for the country. It will in some ways be harder, because Republican ineptness won't be something the congress can point to.
Of course, if the Senate remains republican, we're just talking about a 2 year holding pattern.
That's a common misconception. Southerners aren't backward due to genetics, but rather to the fact that their heads bake in the sun and shrink every year.
(That is a joke, btw) ;)
Well that is why I try to keep out of the sun. That and skin cancer and the fact that I don't like it.
Here's an interesting article: http://mediamatters.org/items/200611080004
I basically shows the degree of progress that was made with the elections. I'm liking a lot of what I see here, and I just hope that we can start seeing some changes made in this country to repair some of the damage the conservatives have done.
I won't comment too heavily on the Washington Post's claim that the country is leaning "slightly right of center". I'll say, though, that the pendulum has definitely begun to swing in the direction of liberalism and reason, and with any luck, it'll continue to snowball as we go into electing a new president.
(And yes, I do realize that I just mixed my metaphors.)
you ever heard the idea that nowadays everything is so far to the right that even what we consider really liberal ideas were once considered more central than left?
Something something considered very conservative president historically but rather liberal by today's standards something I forget…bleh.
Well the Democrats got the House back for sure, but that doesn't really change anything. The only way that we could manage to get out of Iraq without a 2/3 majority is if Congress starts cutting funding, in which case we would be "undermining our troops". However this will (hopefully) mean less crazy laws, no more Patriot Acts, and as an added bonus Rumsfeld stepped down.
Also if the Bush administration does anything else equal in violation of laws like the NSA Spying Program the Democrats will be in a position to protest that a little bit more. Let's hope they don't bend to the Administration.
I think it's bad to vote only democrat or only republican for no other reason that political alleigance. You really gotta look into their individual platforms. Simply putting more Democrats in power doesn't automatically mean you'll get the results you want. I've always felt like America needs a generous mix of both parties, whether you hate one of the parties or not.
Whatever the case, I hope we get the results we want.
I think it's bad to vote only democrat or only republican for no other reason that political alleigance. You really gotta look into their individual platforms. Simply putting more Democrats in power doesn't automatically mean you'll get the results you want. I've always felt like America needs a generous mix of both parties, whether you hate one of the parties or not.
But the parties ARE the political platforms. If you're left of center on the political spectrum Democrats are the way to go, if you're right of center Republicans. Then there's all the third parties that are all over the place, but they still all have a specific political goal in mind, so if their goals match yours you can vote for them. If you're center or some kind of mix (the left/right political spectrum concept doesn't take that into account) THEN you could pick them individually, but really they're all just big fat liars anyway so it's harder to gauge that way.
(just in case people aren't familiar with the political spectrum)
LEFT: Communism<——-D——–MIDDLE——–R——>Fascism RIGHT
(D and R are positions on the spectrum of the Dems and Reps, respectively.)
Anyway I'm officially listed as an independent but I'm so far left of center I can't even see the center anymore.
(just in case people aren't familiar with the political spectrum)Hahahaha! :) I love that! It's not really the case though, not even back in the 20's and 30's when fascism and communisim were real forces that people actually belived in and fought for.
LEFT: Communism<——-D——–MIDDLE——–R——>Fascism RIGHT
(D and R are positions on the spectrum of the Dems and Reps, respectively.)
… fascism and communism are actually outside of the specturm, like religious extremism and monarchism. The way the US compares to outside systems seems to go more like this though:
World average:
LEFT<—————- MIDDLE—————> RIGHT
US:
LEFT<————————-D——– MIDDLE——–R——>RIGHT
…That's a generally held opinion (and that doesn't mean it's true!). Even the current UK administration doesn't fit with the US aligmnet, though Blair is trying his best to make it so.
Where does your political affiliation lie???
I'm a libertarian (Been one for a long time now).
No, the Communism and Fascism are the two extreme ends of the spectrum. They can't be outside of it because they are it. According to that spectrum all other ideologies lie somewhere in between, for instance Democratic Socialism far to the left but not all the way to Communism.
That's a common misconception thegreatjoebivins.
As I said, those things were big in the 20's and 30's as genuine movements that people actually believed in, but not now. They're outside because they exclude all other forms of government. Your US Republicans are not fascists and your US democrats are even further from ever being communists, this side of reality.
Communism and Fascism are now just catch-phrases, icons, avatars if you will. Communism isn't even extreme left and Fascism isn't even extreme right. They were movements that totally denied democracy, they were different kinds of government. They're part of a separate equation… i.e. when things break down.
I say they're not extreme, because in practice Communist regimes aren't extreme left wing, they're just crappy forms of government. The same with Fascism. Operationally they share many of the same traits with each other, as does Monarchy, or Theocracy.
Not even all the normal parties and people fit in the ordinary Left/Right equation. Libertarian's are a good example… They're generally considered a bit "Right", but they share a lot with the "Left", and many politicians within so-called "Left" or "Right" parties can hold many of the same opinions, goals and beliefs that are traditionally associated with the other side!
-while in NO way being considered "Centrists", which is again a misnomer: A Centrist is really just someone prone to compromise…
…like all things, the reality is more complicated than common beliefs…
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