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School blocking sites... Bad... or for our own good...
I don't mind the school blocker all that much at school, since it can be easily bypassed. But what tends to bother me is 1) the arbitrary randomness that they block sites, and 2) the reason why. For example, I could be looking up WW2, and I click on a site from Google, and it's blocked. Because it's porn. We get the lucky filter which explains to the requester why exactly why it's blocked, and everything's sorted into four categories: manually blocked (youtube, facebook, etc), blog sites, webmail sites, and porn. If it's not in one of the first three, then it's porn.
And, by the way, school is meant to destroy your brain. I will stand by this position for evah and evah.
All teachers have an override…
Strictly FYI, not true.
www.scuzzstuff.org
Cannot be blocked.
Why not?
For weeks I did not have Facebook, YouTube and other such sites blocked. I had small assignments on them so I had let the computers run unblocked.
I ended up having students fight over the only computer that could play YouTube videos (so that they could listen to music), students who would not pay attention (because they were too busy going on Facebook), and hardly any work handed in to me (because they were too busy playing games.) I even had a student download Quake to play!
The worst part? Those assignments I had designed around going on Facebook and YouTube remained incomplete. I gave days of class time to finish them so the problem certainly wasn't a lack of time!
So quite frankly, I have no sympathy. The most productive day I ever had from them was the day everything was blocked and the Internet became the most boring place on Earth. So I'm with SpANG on this one. Until someone explains to me why a school should unblock those sites, it all just sounds like whine to me.
www.scuzzstuff.org
Cannot be blocked.
Why not?
Because my friend Kit is a winnar of internet. Something about dynamic things. I don't know.
As for why schools should leave things unblocked? Lunchtime, after school, free periods. Honestly, in high school I saw more people get yelled at for being on Scuzzstuff in the library during lunch hours than there were ever problems in class. Why should that matter? It's lunch. You're not yelling at the kids who sit and do nothing elsewhere. And it's not like there's a respect/waste issue if it's in a public school and the computers are on normally (ours were on from whoever used them first until the end of the day).
Yeah, during class it's disruptive, but otherwise…meh.
But yeah. Scuzzstuff.
Even during lunch, free time, etc. they might still be needed for people who actually have something to do. Imagine having to finish a big project or something, but can't because everyone's spending their breaks on youtube and such…It'd kinda tick me off.
It'd be easy enough to kick people off for legitimate reasons. It was never a problem in my school because we had a lot of computers, but I would imagine in other places that could be more a concern.
Even during lunch, free time, etc. they might still be needed for people who actually have something to do. Imagine having to finish a big project or something, but can't because everyone's spending their breaks on youtube and such…It'd kinda tick me off.
It'd be easy enough to kick people off for legitimate reasons. It was never a problem in my school because we had a lot of computers, but I would imagine in other places that could be more a concern.
In my 'department' (visual technologies) we had special computers set uo, with Flash, 3dMax, etc…but those were also the fastest ones with private access to the internet, so they'd be taken all the time. The people watching the Computerclass had a field day with all the people coming to them to complain about the PC's being taken again.
I don't mind if they block websites, for the purpose of our education, however this is what grinds my gears. They block a lot of websites, but no YouTube. You would think that that would be the first one to be blocked.
Oh well.
at my retarded high school, we have that ULTRA QUEER st. bernard program, that blocks virtually EVERY website, even harmless childrens websites where they have the most innocent games you could imagine. they even give reasons as to why they block every site. ex: "this site has been blocked by st. bernard, hahaha!!!!111 reason: games/nudity/adult/music/region/amusement/existence" n yes, they do block youtube. which means google video is practically useless at my school.
I HATE THAT PROGRAM!!!!
I don't mind if they block websites, for the purpose of our education, however this is what grinds my gears. They block a lot of websites, but no YouTube. You would think that that would be the first one to be blocked.
Oh well.
at my retarded high school, we have that ULTRA QUEER st. bernard program, that blocks virtually EVERY website, even harmless childrens websites where they have the most innocent games you could imagine. they even give reasons as to why they block every site. ex: "this site has been blocked by st. bernard, hahaha!!!!111 reason: games/nudity/adult/music/region/amusement/existence" n yes, they do block youtube. which means google video is practically useless at my school.
I HATE THAT PROGRAM!!!!
Even the most innocent games can lead to world domination, you know.
I highly doubt that. Even though some web block parties block my meta tags (or key words) like gambling, personals, auctions, games, etc. they can still get blocked per WEBSITE. and ANY website can get blocked.www.scuzzstuff.org
Cannot be blocked.
Why not?
Because my friend Kit is a winnar of internet. Something about dynamic things. I don't know.
As for why schools should leave things unblocked? Lunchtime, after school, free periods. Honestly, in high school I saw more people get yelled at for being on Scuzzstuff in the library during lunch hours than there were ever problems in class. Why should that matter? It's lunch. You're not yelling at the kids who sit and do nothing elsewhere. And it's not like there's a respect/waste issue if it's in a public school and the computers are on normally (ours were on from whoever used them first until the end of the day).Lunch breaks?
I have a hard time believing that kain was talking about lunchtime, but I'll play along. LUNCH period is the time for children to take in nutrition and learn to socialize, to talk to their peers. It's ALSO a learning period. There's a reason why so many people that are addicted to being online 24x7 have no social skills whatsoever.
Free periods?
I still don't see why MY taxes would pay for you to play video games. Read a book. Draw a comic. ;)
After school?
Go home, or to a hotspot. Why stay at school?
I'm sorry I keep bringing up tax dollars, but it's so very true. There is NO REASON any school taxes should be squandered away for a kid to watch "ask a ninja" in school. There is a place for empty headed amusements. School is not the place. At least not when it actually costs the school (and the city, and the state) money.
when i was a senior in high school i was on the tech support team so i got override privileges. n_____n
ended up doing all my schoolwork at home and doing nothing at school but reading webcomics and fixing peoples lame computer problems.
fun stuff~
MADNESS! I MIGHT KILL YOU TONIGHT.
…dangit where's schoolmonkey when you need 'er?
I highly doubt that. Even though some web block parties block my meta tags (or key words) like gambling, personals, auctions, games, etc. they can still get blocked per WEBSITE. and ANY website can get blocked.www.scuzzstuff.org
Cannot be blocked.
Why not?
Because my friend Kit is a winnar of internet. Something about dynamic things. I don't know.
Well, scuzzstuff has been unblocked for what, 6 years now? I'm pretty sure my friend put it together with various aspects of blocking software in mind. It's not just meta tags, he's gotten around IP blocking and apparently anything else, because the administration at my old school is aware of its presence but they can't block it.
As for why schools should leave things unblocked? Lunchtime, after school, free periods. Honestly, in high school I saw more people get yelled at for being on Scuzzstuff in the library during lunch hours than there were ever problems in class. Why should that matter? It's lunch. You're not yelling at the kids who sit and do nothing elsewhere. And it's not like there's a respect/waste issue if it's in a public school and the computers are on normally (ours were on from whoever used them first until the end of the day).Lunch breaks?
I have a hard time believing that kain was talking about lunchtime, but I'll play along. LUNCH period is the time for children to take in nutrition and learn to socialize, to talk to their peers. It's ALSO a learning period. There's a reason why so many people that are addicted to being online 24x7 have no social skills whatsoever.
Free periods?
I still don't see why MY taxes would pay for you to play video games. Read a book. Draw a comic. ;)
After school?
Go home, or to a hotspot. Why stay at school?
I'm sorry I keep bringing up tax dollars, but it's so very true. There is NO REASON any school taxes should be squandered away for a kid to watch "ask a ninja" in school. There is a place for empty headed amusements. School is not the place. At least not when it actually costs the school (and the city, and the state) money.
I think there are a LOT of things tax dollars shouldn't support in schools, but they do anyway. I see a lot of "empty headed amusements" going on that aren't related to computer use at all.
And as far as socializing, etc., yeah okay that's a valid point when I read that in context of elementary or middle schools, but I think if a high schooler chooses to spend time on computers during his lunch break, go ahead. Like I mentioned before, if the computers are on anyway it wouldn't actually make a difference.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think your attitude is a bit controlling. High school was, time-wise, a huge burden on me. I was out the door by 6:30 and got home at 2:30. Lunch was, despite how much I liked my classes, the emotional highlight of my day. What if I wanted to just go on a computer sometime? The belief that the school system should dictate the restrictions on your free time because the administration decides what's good for you is…undesirable.
Why should tax dollars go towards someone sitting at lunch drawing a comic? Why should it even be filtered so particularly? In my mind, administration should look at lunch as a relaxation time, not another damn learning period. I had seven of those. I knew people who chose to take an additional class instead of lunch; they ALL suffered mentally and at some point regretted it on some level.
Here's an interesting factoid, what do you make of this?: Our school funded a LAN gaming club that actually used school computers. They held Halo tournaments and whatnot. Is that a waste of tax dollars?
Unfortunately, I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here because I do realize that schools block sites because of abuse during classes. And yes, I encountered that a lot. I just think, once we get into hypotheticals, that people shouldn't dictate how a student can spend their free time.
at least newgrounds can be somewhat amusing depending on what people post, but gaia's just… boring trash :| how do people become gaia cultists without being bored to death first??
I only go to Newgrounds for the Phoenix Wrong series. Never actually been to Gaia. Now I'm scared too.
OBJECTION!
at least newgrounds can be somewhat amusing depending on what people post, but gaia's just… boring trash :| how do people become gaia cultists without being bored to death first??
I only go to Newgrounds for the Phoenix Wrong series. Never actually been to Gaia. Now I'm scared too.
OBJECTION!
Newgrounds is gay! Everything there sucks! I never liked Newgrounds!!!
My school doesn't block sites. My school has a bullshit filter. I can't tell you how many times it got in the way of class work. Once, my whole class went done to do an assignment… only to find that the website had been locked just recently. So the teacher let us all go to YouTube. It's not blocked.
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