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Creator Feuds and Hidden Messages

Banes at April 20, 2023, midnight
tags: thursdayswithbanes


Jon Favreau played Maz Kanada. Or Pablo Hidalgo. Or something like that

There are Easter Eggs hidden in media that might be spottable by viewers/readers, and others that the audience would never know unless they got the inside scoop from somewhere.

It's one reason I like commentaries and behind the scenes documentaries and interviews so much. It's fun to get behind the scenes info on these things.

There's a theory recently that the death of a character voiced by Jon Favreau in the Mandalorian is a signal of Favreau himself leaving the show as writer/showrunner. Fans have theorized about secret messages in the Mandalorian that indicate some of the behind the scenes battles that have gone on, and signals showing when certain creators are rising, and when they're falling (or leaving). I won't go into detail on this now - there's just too much explanation required and to be clear, there's no confirmation that these secret messages are intended as such.

By the way, I'm not suggesting these things are intended to be for the fans in the first place - if they are there, it's just as likely to be the creators expressing themselves in the scripts or on the screen for their own satisfaction.

These can be fun little easter eggs, or venting some kind of frustration, or even a back-and-forth between different creatives, either teasing each other (or going back in forth in a nastier way, knocking on each other or each others' work).

These Creator Feuds are especially intriguing, mixing the fiction we love with the behind-the-scenes dirt that's so tempting to want to know about!

Examples:

Some vintage newspaper comic strips would take digs at each other in their pages. Al Kapp, who created Li'l Abner, had multiple feuds with other creators. He had a FAKE feud with another comic strip creator for awhile - I don't remember who - but they would take shots at each other in their comics before eventually revealing in was all in fun.

In music, there's the song "Alabama" by Neil Young that elicited a response in the song "Sweet Home Alabama" that mentions Neil Young by name in the lyrics.

Of course, much has been made of the reversals made between the Star Wars sequels, with the Last Jedi cancelling multiple plot threads and the Rise of Skywalker doing an un-reverse on at least some of them. Very unusual for a big movie franchise - I imagined this kind of thing was more for comics. But it seems to have…worked out…? 'Nuff said on that, haha.

I'm also reminded of some struggles between the writers of Marvel Comics back in the day, where Dr. Doom would appear in a story, and then another writer in another series would use Doom again, but refer to that previous appearance as one of Doom's robot doubles. This went back and forth multiple times apparently - not sure if the writers were having fun with each other or if it was a more serious argument between writers using the same characters in different series.

Do you know of any interesting creator feuds in shows, movies, or comics? Ever been in a creator feud or known about one? I'd still like to be in one someday…dare to dream!

See you next time,

-Banes



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