Thread "Apple iPad" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 10:01PM, Jan. 30, 2010

Bleagh, yet another stupid Apple product with annoying media hype. Madtv is lame.

Posted at 10:01PM, Jan. 30, 2010

Gush more

lol!
The Apple effect is not innovation.
The Apple effect is hype.
ie. Once their version of an existing product comes out it blinds everyone to the existing ones that were pretty much the same. That happens because they are a big company, with mass appeal.

It happened with the imacs - similar alternatives abounded
It happened with the Mac Mini - again, similar machines had been around a while
It happened with the ipod - mp3 players were everywhere and most were pretty good.
It happened with the iphone version 1- People completely forgot the LG prada touchscreen phone had been out for ages already and named the iphone the first touchsceen phone.

There is nothing new, interesting, significant, or stand out in the device. You completely miss the point of it! :)
The device is just the medium, what will make it in the market is how Apple will support it and how the masses will also support it simply because Apple is a mass appeal company.

Apple is the MacDonalds of PC makers- everyone knows them, and 3 or 4 sizes fit all comers. But they'll make sure your burger always tastes the same wherever you are and their toilets are always clean.
Want fries with that?

(Like MacDonalds in ubiquity and uniformity, not price. Although, they are not all that expensive comparatively and certainly not the top end of the market)

Sure there are already existing alternatives, but they don't have quite that form factor

Oh, they do Hawk, indeed they do.
Apple has a reputation for great aesthetics in industrial design. That's not entirely deserved. All they do is simple minimalism, and that's pretty easy for anyone to do when they get a brain and stop adding ugly useless lines, corners and buttons everywhere. You can find small, pretty slate tablets if you look (and I have, for years), the trouble is that they don't have the mass appeal of the Apple company, so it's not as easy to know about them.

You could do a simple Google image search. ;)

There's even the JooJoo (formally the Crunchpad) that's been available for pre-order since December
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And for the record; I have nothing at all against Apple. They are a fine large PC and software company. I've often used Apple computers in my working life and found them adequate.
I do however have a problem with the ignorance and fawning that surrounds the brand.
P.S. –I'm not calling anyone here ignorant or fawning, I'm just saying those things tend to surround the Apple brand.

I have 5 Apple keyboards at home that I use for all my Windows PCs because I like them the best out of all the alternatives.. :)

Here is a very unoriginal and derivative poorly drawn cartoon I just drew to show the situation:

Posted at 4:01AM, Jan. 31, 2010

Here is a very unoriginal and derivative poorly drawn cartoon I just drew to show the situation:

I've seen cartoons exactly like this one before but this one - I like the presentation, packaging, I don't have to go looking for it, it's kind of user friendly looking and your name does have a certain cache.

Yep, you've given us something totally new here, completely raising the bar. The way people interact with cartoons will change forever and even if you don't keep it up, there'll be a host of long running imitators waiting to step into your shoes.

Ladies and gentlemen - the O-Toon.

Posted at 6:01AM, Jan. 31, 2010

the O-toon is a Game Changer !!!

Posted at 3:01PM, Jan. 31, 2010

As a long-time user of macs AND Cintiqs… I would love (as would many others) to be able to use a stylus and a decent drawing program on one of these.

I reckon in about two or three generations this will be possible… maybe.

Apple, like Wacom are very protective of their technology (the fact that you cannot view Flash on the iPad is an excellent example of this).

The Modbook is another example, a touch screen in place of the keyboard on a Macbook pro with wacom tech, I thought one of these would be fantastic (I even have a reseller license for them here in Australia).

However, I haven't even bothered trying to sell them. Wacom will not give Axion (the company making them) the tech to go beyond 512 levels of pen sensitivity, nor angle recognition. PLus a huge price $3500 and up.

I know it will never happen, but imagine what sort of tech gadgets we would have if companies shared their technology and did not fear each other as competition.

Posted at 6:01PM, Jan. 31, 2010

There's even the JooJoo that's been available for pre-order since December

You're probably right about the "Apple effect" and how Apple is essentially a big intelligent marketing company.

The JooJoo is a perfect example of how smaller, less intelligent companies go astray. I don't know about overseas, but calling a device a "Jew Jew" in America is not going to endear it to consumers. And people thought "iPad" was a poor name choice! LOL!

Posted at 7:01PM, Jan. 31, 2010

I've seen cartoons exactly like this one before but this one - I like the presentation, packaging, I don't have to go looking for it, it's kind of user friendly looking and your name does have a certain cache.

Yep, you've given us something totally new here, completely raising the bar. The way people interact with cartoons will change forever and even if you don't keep it up, there'll be a host of long running imitators waiting to step into your shoes.

Ladies and gentlemen - the O-Toon.

the O-toon is a Game Changer !!!

Well that's me buggered.
Follow me, buy my stuff and make me super rich as I convince you that I'm changing the world while making you think you're buying into something exclusive and elite while simultaneously saving the environment.

The JooJoo is a perfect example of how smaller, less intelligent companies go astray. I don't know about overseas, but calling a device a "Jew Jew" in America is not going to endear it to consumers. And people thought "iPad" was a poor name choice! LOL!

That is :)
Expert marketing. But NOT at the expense of making a decent product that's worth marketing to start with. They have a good balance. The expert marketing convinces people that the good product is an amazing one ^__^

Yup, Joojoo is a silly name. They're nice and big (over 12 inches), nice design too… looking very sexy. The problem with them is though that being browser based they're just as closed and limited as the ipad. Still, unlike the ipad they're open source (I believe) so it might be easier to do more with them. They won't have the same level of software wow as the Apple one because that's a teeny independent company and Apple is a 20 story monster, Apple will also find it a LOT easier to attract partners and developers because of that fact, BUTit does have a lot of potential and it is a sexy device.

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A great example of the Apple effect and the atrocious quality of tech journalisim is the furore about the use of the word "slate":
After it was rumored that the Apple device might be called an "islate" most of the tech "journalists" started saying that all the other new slates coming out were slavishly co-opting the Apple invented name, proving what a leader Apple was and proving how much the other companies follow them…
When in the wonderful world of reality "Slate" has been used as the standard word for keyboardless tablets for years. What that episode proved was that the tech journalists not only had an innate bias, but they didn't know what they were talking about when it came to tablets since even the most basic research on a general info site like wikipedia couldn've corrected that moronic assumption. lol!

Posted at 10:01PM, Jan. 31, 2010

Well Ozone, you don't need to preach to ME about the "Apple effect"… Apple has made my stomach churn for years, watching as they still benefit from the decade-old myth that Macs are better for artists, not to mention the lies and half-truths they regularly use in their commercials. I often wonder how many superior MP3 players fell by the wayside because of Apple's slick and trendy dancing silhouettes.

I'm as skeptical as you can get about Apple. That's why it would take a truly, legitimately good product to make me buy it, and that product was the iPod Touch. Sure, it was overpriced as per the Apple Effect, but it has been a joy to own and use.

I can understand Apple's thought process on applying the versatility of the iPod Touch to an e-reader, but I think the Apple Effect is wearing out. I haven't seen a whole lot of positive buzz about it, at least at the websites I frequent (mostly artist and gaming sites). Maybe the masses are still fawning, I just haven't seen much of it.

By the way, that's an interesting Google search you pointed out. You're right, there are a lot more options than I was aware of. Maybe that's a bit more of the Apple Effect's eclipsing properties. Some of these models actually don't look as flimsy or clunky as the tablet computers I'm used to seeing.

Posted at 4:02AM, Feb. 1, 2010

I love my Mac and would never go back to a PC, but this iPad thing reeks of nothin' but stinky crappiness. Granted it's the 1st generation and hopefully improvements will be made to the next one (*cough* ability to draw directly on the screen like a sketchbook *cough*), because this one is just plain terrible.

Apple has already done this before back in the 90s. It was called the Newton, and it failed miserably. I think the iPad is a huge step backwards for Apple, and this is coming from an Apple fan. No USB port, No camera, only 16GB, and only one app running at a time? No thanks. It's just a glorified, giant iPod Touch, which I also dislike.

I did a comic about this yesterday:

Posted at 5:02AM, Feb. 1, 2010

I did a comic about this yesterday:

I knew it - the O-toon has changed everything!

I have no possible use for iTampons, but that won't stop me buying enough to line my nuclear bunker.

Posted at 7:02AM, Feb. 1, 2010

I have no possible use for iTampons, but that won't stop me buying enough to line my nuclear bunker.

Isn't that what girls use them for anyway? ^^

Posted at 8:02AM, Feb. 1, 2010

*hugs his eeepc*

Posted at 4:02PM, Feb. 1, 2010

They're nice and big (over 12 inches), nice design too… looking very sexy.

I'm sold.