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Sorry EEN, you're still talking about bigotry and actions of violence or whatever, and all I'm seeing with the guy is the idiot ravings of a man who hated himself, his own family and other things related to him.

It's different for someone else, but to put that label on people that close to the situation, no matter what words come out of their mouths shows little willingness to understand them and more willingness to just react to what they say. Always remember this is about what is said, nothing else, no other connotations, and in that context is ALL: this is the same reason you don't call rap singers murdering bigoted racialists for what they sing about, that'd not be true. ;)

I also have to say the the willingness to cut the man some slack given this perspective doesn't indicate an endorsement of his ravings.

Look we're just both going to have to agree to disagree. I understand you're strongly tied to those views, but I see them as being a little inflexible. Maybe I've just known quite a few complex and damaged people in my life with views conflicting with their backgrounds and maybe that's helped me to see past what people say and focus on why they say it (when I'm aware of the background).

I don't see any reason to keep going with this, we realise we don't agree with each other and I think we should stop before it becomes personal. :)
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Ok, by agreement with Nick, I'm looking this. ^_^
We each stick to our own positions and nothing gets personal.