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Maybe when our space shuttles stop exploding in mid descent/ascent.
I love it when it says you've got a headshot about a minute after you've made the actual shot.
One of the reasons why a nuclear powered spaceship hasn't been constructed is because people are petrified of the idea of having it crashing during a failed space launch or re-entry, spreading fallout everywhere.I'm pretty sure there've been one or two satellites with some form of nuclear fuel.
Yes, we have most of the tech needed to do this.We don't, read less science fiction.
We can do fantastic things with our sciences.No, we think that in advance, usually along the road more problems surface than we thought and nature turns out to be more complex than our models had hoped. Once promised things like mapping the human genome or the ISS are still not done and way over time.
We have plans for inflatable moonbases, geodesic martian cities, and there's even a floating venusian city in the concept stage. We can probably tow in asteroids and create living spaces in them. However…We have plans for that? Are you sure? Note that a desire does not mean a plan, a plan means you can convince a funder that said should give you the money because the funder is convinced it'll work from your technical specs.
Humanity still isn't ready. I don't think we're "mature" enough to go out into space without really messing things up. We're still fighting wars over religion, two bit dictators and other such governments keep people under their heel/thumb, and… well… there's all that space junk we left up in the atmosphere that we haven't tried to clean up yet.Who would want to colonize space any way? It's a suck place to be, your bone erodes away, you have to conserve energy, no parks, nothing.
What do you think of all this?Counter question: Do you for instance know that in places with no atmosphaere (like space), energy generation isn't half as big a problem as energy dissipation. Getting your space station warm is all too easy, getting it cold is the major problem. Thermodynamics works in real life, not in science fiction.
Oh.. and if this thread doesn't belong here, please move it. :)
Don't forget the Biodome projects. Too bad too, the idea of having a livable atmosphere in a self-contained space is cool, only they couldn't be made to be self contained. Today the idea is generally dismissed as impractical, though it might have provided a viable model for space installments had it worked.We can do fantastic things with our sciences.No, we think that in advance, usually along the road more problems surface than we thought and nature turns out to be more complex than our models had hoped. Once promised things like mapping the human genome or the ISS are still not done and way over time.
We have plans for inflatable moonbases, geodesic martian cities, and there's even a floating venusian city in the concept stage. We can probably tow in asteroids and create living spaces in them. However…We have plans for that? Are you sure? Note that a desire does not mean a plan, a plan means you can convince a funder that said should give you the money because the funder is convinced it'll work from your technical specs.
Inflatable habitats are in the works, but for the moon. Well… that's what The History Channel's "The Universe" showed anyway. I'd say it's ideal for the moon because there's no weather there. On Mars we'd need something like the biodome. The show mentions that the reason why the biodome experiment went awry was because a lot of the oxygen that was supposed to be produced by the plants was being sucked up by the concrete that made up the structure. The result was an oxygen level inside the place equal to the amount you'd find near the tops of very tall mountains (like Everest). Eventually fresh oxygen had to be pumped in from the outside.
Personally I think the reason was something like cabin fever, but only in a larger building..
Once promised things like mapping the human genome or the ISS are still not done and way over time.Uhmm. The genome project is long done and it was done pretty much on time.
Who would want to colonize space any way? It's a suck place to be, your bone erodes away, you have to conserve energy, no parks, nothing.I actually believe that many would want to become space explorers given the opportunity. There's always a certain percentage of people who dream of exploring and become restless whenever they stay in one place for long. These are what made the explorers of the past and will make the explorers of the future.
Assume the earth gets to full and half has to go to another planet. I'd rather be in the half that stays here, and I guess a lot of people share my like for comfort, so you're more deporting people away, and probably people that don't have a lot of money. So it's slavery all over again.
there's all that space junk we left up in the atmosphere that we haven't tried to clean up yet.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/209955Red the article and came across this:
The Soviet Union may have been the most egregious polluter. In the 1970s and '80s, it launched 32 radar satellites, designed to track the positions of U.S. Navy ships, each powered by its own nuclear reactor.Yikes!
You guys are so absorbed in speculation that you're forgetting the first thing we should ask ourselves: why the hell would we want humans in outer space in the first place?
To spread our wonderful attributes like war, teen pregnancy, genocide, fake dog shit, Dr Phils and whatnot?
I can just see the space people eager to have us out there. No thanks, keep the disease contained dont you think?
people from MIT, NASA, and a few real artists. i would say iabout 2% of humanity.
most humans are selfish, douchy, and dumb. they watch too much MTV, E! television, and reality TV.
some are totally evil and corrupt.
maybe i should make a list that could go on a new planet and tthen leave all the rednecks here on the rotting earth- with all the earthquakes, and comets coming its way and 2010 mayan calendar annahilation.
on my list will be:
lance armstrong
bill clinton
the whole rage against the machine
bill gates
quentin tarantino (but if he makes another "grindhouse", he's fucking out)
dave grohl
tim burton
brad pitt
johnny knoxville, chris pontius, steve-o, weeman (prettymuch the whole jackass crew except for bam margera)
Phil and april margera
jason ellis
shaun white
vin diesel
a young robert de niro
deepak chopra
the dalai lama
ill continue the list later. maybe u should tell me why i should include u in my list
commercial exploration is, and has always been the only way.WTF? lol!
Fine, government contracting of commercial buisnesses.That will alys be the biggest factor :)
Google paying 25 mil… Unfortunately that cash is more like a little gold star or a sticker that says "well done", much like the "X" prize that Spacehip One won, that became Virgin Galatic, that still hasn't taken any tourists up yet… The 25 million wouldn't go anywhere near to defraying any of the R&D costs for such a feat, let alone the operational costs :(
You work in atmospheric aerospace yourself, you must know how much those babies cost.
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