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Ozoneocean
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we got a problem
Unlike townies, all mafias know who each other are
They might, but they don't know who you guys are.

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Geez, I go to bed and when I wake up I find out that the pig thing points to me! The pig isn't pretending to be people though, he's just a stubborn pig…

I, however, do have reason to believe that leaderofstars might have been last night's killer.

Evidence:
1. One of his comics has explicit randomness just like the dream in the narrative.
2. His signature references body parts as ingredients in a stew.
3. He immediately changed his avatar after the first death was announced.
That is pretty good… but the clues are so imprecise, I think until we get better at interpreting them it will be hard to lynch anyone just based on the clues.

Who would want Korosu dead?
1. Harkovast- for some reason he wanted suspicion on Korosu and no one was believing him, so he took matters into his own hads. but that means Harkovast would just get himself in trouble when it was revealed that Korosu was just a townie… unless for some reason Hark really didn't think Korosu was innocent?

2. A vigilante could have targeted Korosu- Korosu was the only obvious target by the end of the day (besides me, ozone, and hark). The vigilante decided hark was more believable than Korosu and wanted to get a jump start and eliminate a mafia while he had the chance… but he turned out to be wrong. Or we could have a vigilante who just wants to kill people, and why not Korosu? It seems we've already got one player who just likes to stir things up, so 'random' acts are a possibility.

3. It doesn't make much sense for the mafia to kill Korosu. It would have been to their advantage to have Korosu be suspicious because that would draw attention away from them, they'd know he wasn't a mafia. And Hark probably isn't mafia (unless he's just a really bad one) because suspicion has landed on him with both feet- he's either a lying troublemaker or a mafia trying to get us to second-guess him back into safety. He could be a mafia that the mafia want dead, they can't kill their own… maybe he is too much of a liability with his attention-seeking.

4. We know Korosu was a townie, didn't have a special role, so couldn't have targeted someone at night. So the paranoid didn't kill him.

… there really wasn't much reason for anyone to kill Korosu? Yet he's dead.

I've voted.
I say Harkovast.

Even if it wasn't him, he made up evidence against korosu, that means he's just going to be messing us around and confusing things. Working against us like mafia would anyway, even if he's not one of then.
I am really leaning toward this reasoning right now. I'm not sure we'll be able to conclusively figure out the clues by 'nightfall' but now we at least know that there's someone being counterproductive here, which is bad for the town. We may be able to just dismiss harkovast as a crank though, do we need to lynch him?

However as pardoner I'm going to withhold my vote til the end. If it turns out I want to pardon someone I'd rather try and do it with my vote if that's possible, than use up a pardon.

from now on no one can change avatar until the game ends
agreed?
Yes, this is a good idea. We may be following some clues for a long time. Same with no changing profiles, changing recommended comics, etc. Some people have got extremely bare profiles… BK may have a hard time coming up with clues for them, which could either make the clues harder or easier.

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Skullbie, I added your list to the OP, so thanks!

FYI for all, the current clue is on page 9.


I've scoured people's profiles and I haven't come up with much… obviously most (or all) of these people are innocent, I just wanted to be thorough. There is a ton of stuff that seems only vaguely incriminating:


Skullbie has got a mention to vampires (eating necks) in her profile, as well as cats. I don't think the cat thing was a good interpretation of that clue so I'm going to ignore that angle for now.

Mutation's username makes me think of the crazy dream. She's also got this: "'Mutation?' My mind and word shall shift infinately changing"

leaderofstars - talks about randomness a lot in his profile, and one of his comics has 'random' in the name. The dream had big battles, and he has fav'd "super smash brothers royale" and makes a comic called "drunk duck war" and "project superhuman"

martino_23 has fav'd 'Hatpire', so vampires there. The mario avatar COULD point at video games and then to the batteries not included clue… seems like a stretch though.

Gasp it's Jake - hatpire avatar

Ozoneocean has an assist on "charby the vampirate" and has also fav'd "vampire phantasm" so more vampires. His comic (and a number of things on his profile) has "pinky"… pigs are pink? Pretty weak. He has got a Civil War banner in his sig though. Edited to add: flying boat/murky sea = ozone/ocean ?

Nersop doesn't SEEM to have anything directly, but he's got a picture of Jackie Chan cross-dressing as Chun Li… possibly a reference to the 'pigs pretending to be men' part? not likely though… Nersop's videogame avatar could also be a batteries reference, but this seems like more of a stretch than for martinlo, thumbs-up guy is less well known than mario.

Waff's got 2 comics recommended in his profile: "Unsound of Mind" and "South of Sanity" which makes me think of the dream too. His avatar is also the crazy hobo.

SpANG has got recommended comics "Random Thoughts" and "Surreal Adventures" … he also recommends "The Leftovers" AND "Hungry Hungry hipsters" which reminds me of the eating part. The dream talks about a climactic battle and Spang has lots of sueprhero comics fav'd. And again he seems to be the only one connected to "Doctor" with his Dr Who video. huh… not looking great for Spang.

Sea_Cow - the dream boat flew into the murky sea?

gullas has fav'd "the dragon doctors" but I don't think it's as strong a doctor reference as the Dr. Who video from Spang

Vakanai also has some 'battles' in his profile, his comic is named "Rumbles." He also recommends 'putrid meat'- the cannibalism maybe?

As mentioned before, and as unhappy as it makes me… I've got a comic with "Pig" in the title, and I've also got a comic named "Made-Up Stories" which is kind of like the dream… and I guess 'lawyer to the supernatural' might point at vampires?


I can't find anything for most of those clues, though. An owl, the boat, the door vs. window, the batteries?

waff
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i know this will only lump more shushpicion onto myself but i feel i should give information about my avatar. he is doctor hobo a character in the comic vgcats and before i found out that we shouldn't change our aviesh i wash planning on using a picture of him using a shquirell as a mobile phone (squish), also in the firsht comic he appearsh in he talks about eating babiesh and and using forks for something and gets a spoon stuck in his ear

Niccea
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^^ I'm ready for another day of paranoia. Not! I got two papers due in 12 hours and thanks to you guys, I haven't even started. I'm just kidding. It won't take me too long. I just left my book at home so I have to wing it until it gets delivered.

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Here is a possible explanation-
Harkovast has a short attention span and is easily corrupted by power.
Harkovast wondered if he could get someone else lynched for his own amusement.
Harkovast didn't think that would actually work!

To paraphrase the joker, do I look like someone with a plan? I'm like a dog chasing cars, I wouldn't know what to do it if I caught one!
Its the people with the plans that are the bad guys (the mafia always have a plan).

I'm not the bad guy, I'm just out of my tree, bat shit crazy.
I talk shit but I am completely harmless.
Kill me and you are just one townie down.
I'm going with the "kill people who don't post" plan until I see evidence to convince me different.

And Skullbie is probably mafia. Just saying.

And as for the person who suggested neck biting might involve my avatar, if I was going to murder someone, my avatar is a knight. They would get a broad sword up side the head, not fangs in the neck.

Niccea
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If it makes you feel any better. I would suspect a lot of other people before I would suspect you. The clues only minorly point to you and there are a lot of better connections.

harkovast
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The mayor has declared he wants me lynched. How rude! I voted for that guy!
I think you should all try and stop your elected official wasting a good lynching on none mafia nutters like me.

Also, I just noticed…it seems korosu was killed by the mafia in a murder.
If I was mafia, why would I have just exposed my own nonsense?
The mafia killed him in the hopes it would make the rest of you want to kill me.
Cunning beggars these mafia types!

Niccea
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Sadly, mate, there are already four votes against you (ozone's triple vote power) but I don't think anybody else is suspicious of you. Skullbie keeps saying it isn't you at the least.

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Ah well, if that's the way the cookie crumbles!
If I die, remember everyone who votes for me to be lynched is a mafia suspect (since the mafia know I am not one of them so will all jump on board to vote to kill me).
Remember their names!

Niccea
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*draws sword and salutes* By the way, have you ever thought that having one of the first people to die in your comic as an avatar might be bad luck? I've been meaning to ask you since I started reading.

Mutation
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I know this is outright out of nowhere, but I'd like to state that the Doctor is probably a hidden paramedic that failed. Due to the fact that Ozone says he doesn't know who one is.

Even if Ozone is or isn't a mafia guy, he's still openly saying that some of the class sort are unknown to him.

Granted, I'm sure the Mafia know what is a clue or not, and will kill who they think is most on track.

I'm certain LeaderOfStars is our guy. Anyone else with me?

Ozoneocean
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Ok, ok….

Harkovast has agreed not to be a bastard anymore. so I recind my votes against him!

Skoolmunkee's reasoning points more to Spang as the criminal anyway. I vte Spang now. He's been quite and hasn't responded to any enquires either. Very sus.!
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I'm pretty sure it's not leaderofstars, unless he's being REALLY convincing. But I doubt he could be. He doesn't seem able to be that crafty. Sorry Leader, but there it is.

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Ok, ok….

Harkovast has agreed not to be a bastard anymore. so I recind my votes against him!

Skoolmunkee's reasoning points more to Spang as the criminal anyway. I vte Spang now. He's been quite and hasn't responded to any enquires either. Very sus.!

OK, I just want to say that just because Hark is promising to be good doesn't mean he will be, he's already gotten someone killed. Hark, you look lynch-able because you've made yourself stand out as someone untrustworthy. The town might just want to get you out of the way to save uncertainty and headaches later.

Hark may not have killed Korosu but that doesn't mean he couldn't still possibly be a mafia, either. It could be a plan of his to have gotten someone (unluckily Korosu) killed without incriminating himself in game clues, make an idiot of himself so no one would believe he's a clever mafia, and then turn around and act apologetic and get people's trust back. I'm just saying. People's perceptions can be manipulated, but game clues could lead to a solution.

I'm not taking any sides yet but that also means I'm taking no-one's side lol!

Until we get definite clues it all boils down to a bunch of he said-she said and who do you have a better feeling about… which I don't think is that great of reasoning to lynch people on, but neither is it a great basis for trusting.

harkovast
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SkoolMunkee do I seem that clever to you?
I'm flattered that you think I am so smart to do all of that.
Bit of a risky plan though? sort of like when they made New Coke!

waff
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yah (hic) im with ozoneocean (hic) sorry if i seem to be a barstad harkovast (hic.burp) "pokes dead squirell then holds it my ear" hello pizza hut ahm gonna need a large pizza with extra pepperoni(hic)

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but he's got a picture of Jackie Chan cross-dressing as Chun Li… possibly a reference to the 'pigs pretending to be men' part?

Huh?

Ozoneocean
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I vote Spang. Skool had a good case against him back there and Hark is promising to be good now.

Niccea
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Hmmm…are you sure you are allowed to change votes once they have been cast? I can't remember reading a rule that condoned or banned it.

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*wakes up from a splendid eight hour sleep* <3

Gasp Its Jake - 1 vote
harkovast

leaderofstars - 3 vote
martinlo_23
Niccea
Mutation

harkovast - 2 votes
leaderofstars
Waff

SpANG - 3 vote
ozoneocean


Because leaderofstars reached the 3 vote first, he is now in the lead~

And yes you can change your votes. You just need to PQ me. However once the cycle ends, I will not take your vote.

Also while I'm at it~
Please send me your night actions only during the night. If you send it to me earlier and I take it, then I'll have actions sent to me earlier and earlier and earlier.

Edit:

Yes, this is a good idea. We may be following some clues for a long time. Same with no changing profiles, changing recommended comics, etc. Some people have got extremely bare profiles… BK may have a hard time coming up with clues for them, which could either make the clues harder or easier.

Generally I work with what people give me. If there's hardly anything there then the clues will obviously be more narrow but whether it's harder or easier I can't really say. If I find that a person is changing things just to avoid the clues however, then I start using things that they can't change. >: D

Honestly I'm also trying to find a good middle ground with you guys. If the clues are too easy then that's no fun. If the clues are too hard, then that's no fun either. The clues however will build upon each other over time.

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Ah (hic) this (hic) may complicate my morals

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SkoolMunkee do I seem that clever to you?
I'm flattered that you think I am so smart to do all of that.
Bit of a risky plan though? sort of like when they made New Coke!

But you see if you're mafia then your other mafia came up with the plan for you, silly. lol! Or maybe it's all just an act…

but he's got a picture of Jackie Chan cross-dressing as Chun Li… possibly a reference to the 'pigs pretending to be men' part?

Huh?

I was thinking in a way like… one thing dressing up to look like another thing…. sort of thing. It's a stretch. I dunno how far we're supposed to think with all these clues.

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