vakanai before considering if you want to lynch me, think about this.
If you lynch someone who talks crap but is a townie, you have just wasted a turn and effectively lost a life by removing one of your own townies.
My behaviour in terms of trying to get someone else lynched almost immediately served no purpose if I was a mafia as it has just made me a prime suspect for no reason (and the person I voted to lynch got killed by the mob anyway! So no harm, no foul.).
I think we have all established I am just very silly, not mafia. Obviously the mob killed the guy I sugested on a whimp in the hopes of making you want to kill me.
Now I've apologised for my naughty ways and the mayor has given me a full pardon, so killing me because you don't like my ridiculous behaviour wont get any of us anywhere.
You need to be looking for the people who are actually in the mafia, not people who have a sick sense of humour.
You may not like me, but I am still a townie, and you can ill afford to lose too many more townies.
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vakanai before considering if you want to lynch me, think about this.Actually, there is no proof you are a townie. As far as I'm concerned you have a 50/50 chance, same as everyone. It's just out of everyone, I only suspect you, Spang, and leaderofstars. You say you are a townie, but you are still on my suspect list, no offense. And I never said I would definitely vote against you.
If you lynch someone who talks crap but is a townie, you have just wasted a turn and effectively lost a life by removing one of your own townies.
My behaviour in terms of trying to get someone else lynched almost immediately served no purpose if I was a mafia as it has just made me a prime suspect for no reason (and the person I voted to lynch got killed by the mob anyway! So no harm, no foul.).
I think we have all established I am just very silly, not mafia. Obviously the mob killed the guy I sugested on a whimp in the hopes of making you want to kill me.
Now I've apologised for my naughty ways and the mayor has given me a full pardon, so killing me because you don't like my ridiculous behaviour wont get any of us anywhere.
You need to be looking for the people who are actually in the mafia, not people who have a sick sense of humour.
You may not like me, but I am still a townie, and you can ill afford to lose too many more townies.
You know what I feel like?
I feel like the guy in the horror movie that is not the monster but is a bastard but they cant or wont just shoot him (like Berk in Aliens).
Only problem is….that character always gets stabbed horribly before the movie ends….bugger.
In Alien 4, that stereotype totally got stabbed through the head by a baby alien coming out of another guy's stomach!
Ok. From what I've learned from my discussions with my trusted people. Korosu was definitely a mob hit.
I don't know who of course, but I think I know why: to throw us all off balance. We suspected Korosu after Harkovast's idiot messing around and they killed him to make it look like a vigilante attack because they knew we believed Harkovast.
You know what I feel like?
I feel like the guy in the horror movie that is not the monster but is a bastard but they cant or wont just shoot him (like Berk in Aliens).
Only problem is….that character always gets stabbed horribly before the movie ends….bugger.
You've been forgiven by Ozone, but if Ozone is mafia that doesn't mean much for you… and Ozone is clever enough to pull a bait-and-switch about getting you to make yourself look suspicious, but then supporting you when you 'promise to be good'. Notice that Ozone switched his vote right away rather than just withdrawing it until later- he is using his weighty vote to direct suspicion onto somebody. Somebody who had not even posted or had any activity at this point, so was less likely than someone else to come back, catch up on everything, and make a good defense of themself. The perfect townie target. If Ozone is mafia he knows who some important people are, and others not worth keeping.
Sorry Ozone but I just don't trust you yet. I don't think anyone should.
Or, if Ozone's not mafia, based on Harkovast's case than ANY person who has acted suspiciously and has made wild accusations or said strange things, if they go to Ozone and whine and cry and promise to be good, should be forgiven and trusted again.
That doesn't make any sense at all to me. T_T
Ok. From what I've learned from my discussions with my trusted people. Korosu was definitely a mob hit.OK, if Korosu was a mafia hit- then the whole thing was VERY likely a setup, because the mafia can coordinate. If Harkovast is mafia, he acted all wild and accused a random person… knowing the mafia was going to hit them. The mafia felt that Hark has a good chance of going unlynched because he's a bit of a fruitcake ;) and it's more likely for people to believe he's just messing around than part of an organized attack.
I don't know who of course, but I think I know why: to throw us all off balance. We suspected Korosu after Harkovast's idiot messing around and they killed him to make it look like a vigilante attack because they knew we believed Harkovast.
Or- if they really wanted to mess us up, they would have hit both Korosu AND Harkovast. They would want to kill both the accuser AND the accused because that would be even more confusing and make the vigilante case stronger.
But I also still think that the mafia would NOT want to hit Korosu because as long as he was still alive, he'd be drawing suspicion away from them. AND that would just show the town that Hark was foolish but not dangerous. But that could be EXACTLY part of the mafia plan- getting an innocent killed, but also getting their member Harkovast to look innocent, or at least harmless.
so… are we SURE Harkovast isn't mafia?
Edit: I don't think the mafia would have counted on it looking like a vigilante. It's far more likely that a mafia is willing to kill someone the first night than a vigilante, because at that point there are absolutely no clues and a vigilante wouldn't want to waste one of their kills. It was probably supposed to look like a mob hit- but why?
It's all really confusing. There's a lot of psychology and overthinking in this game.More than that… it's like chess from the townie side, in that any possible move, no matter how much you know, is possible to have benefits as well as the possibility of getting you in more trouble…
Or causing different troubles altogether.
I think it's best just to jump in and take some action based on the best intelligence you have at the time: a bit like what George Bush Jnr and Tony Blair did, but for the right reasons. :)
I don't think there should even be a lynch today. There's a better chance of eliminating townie anyways. Here's a suggestion, though. Why doesn't everyone just post his or her own respective role, and any quantity of roles that don't match up with the actual numbers, we investigate those who posted those mismatched roles. Anyone who doesn't post would also be a suspect. I say this since no one yet has stated what type of role they have. Even if the mafia members lie, the person with the actual role could object to that, therefore, leaving two sure suspects.
Why doesn't everyone just post his or her own respective role, and any quantity of roles that don't match up with the actual numbers, we investigate those who posted those mismatched roles. Anyone who doesn't post would also be a suspect. I say this since no one yet has stated what type of role they have. Even if the mafia members lie, the person with the actual role could object to that, therefore, leaving two sure suspects.A good reason NOT to do that is that Townies with roles will be the first ones the mafia target. ;)
And it's a lot easier and faster for the mafia to kill than it is for Townies who have to puzzle and debate everything. By the time we'd finished arguing who's really who we'd likely have killed a few of our own and the mafia would be able to kill anyone with a role they wanted.
And besides. Simple townies outnumber Mafia and almost equal townies with a role, so deciding which is real mafia and which is the real townie (without a role) in that big group would be impossible.
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-There are four mafia.
-There are 10 other roles. 8 of those are guaranteed to be townies:
2 bodyguards
1 vigilante
2 paramedics
1 veteran
1 paranoid
1 detective
The mayor and or pardoner could be Mafia, townie with a role (not bodyguard), or townie without a role.
As mayor I know I'm a townie, but no one else knows that for sure except BK. But that doesn't matter because when I factor the list I can cut myself out when I try and work out the mafias.
But the thing is that when you cut out Korosu as the only confirmed townie with no role and ignoring the mayor and pardoner role that could be either, that leaves us with 7 townies with no role special role.
(whether or not they're now Mayor and or pardoner)
…I hope my maths is right, because I was always shiz at maths.
leaderofstars - 3 vote
martinlo_23
Mutation
Sea_Cow
harkovast - 3 votes
leaderofstars
Waff
Niccea
SpANG - 7 vote
ozoneocean
Gullas
Skullbie
harkovast
highspeedcomics
One vote switched but SpANG is still in the lead~
Edit: Just as a reminder…please don't send me night actions during the day cycle. I know that looks kind of anal of me but the game operates on a first come first serve basis. This means if I take actions outside of the night cycle, then others will start doing so as well (so as to be first.)
Edit 2: Updated tally again~
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