This article from Discovery News explains how a race of chimpanzees are now using sharp sticks to skewer small mammals, as in hunting. To adapt to all the males getting the food, the females have adapted to using these hunting methods to getting proper nutriment.
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Strange, no?
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Evolution at work?
that bird was proably just an city animal…
city animals tend to surive differently than thier relatives out in the countryside. They find all sorts of creative ways to eat using the labor of human activity to lessen the work for them. more common than you think.
there's even wild rabbits moving into the cities and the towns due to there being less preadtors that would prey on them in those areas… easy vegation access espeically in the surburbs or other backyards of homes where people like to garden.
the city wild rabbits are very well fed in those areas here, even in the wintertime thanks to leeching off human efforts (aka the gardens, dropped trash, etc) and human activity.
humans thinks of the countrysides and the smaller towns as much more safer commuities, but the animals see the cities as safer areas.
kinda funny, huh?
Is the action of animals really considered evolution?
For all purpose-specific uses isn't evolution the scientific term for the changing of chromosomes, or biological function of things through time?
I would call the gorillas stabbing things with sticks to be an adaptation, not evolution. If they all died out in a freak accident and one baby remained and that baby started stabbing things with sticks, I might consider that evolution because the instinct was passed through genes, but we have no sucessive generations to prove anything yet. Right?
I guess my point is that I don't know and I'm more asking than telling.
I wonder how many of those birds a day get hit by cars.
They're crows, so, probably not too many. You'd think the bigger, clumsier looking birds get hit more often, but they're damn smart.
That video made me really really happy :D I love birds. I -really- want a pet crow…
This is possibly more impressive, as far as tool-making goes.
[swf width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/TtmLVP0HvDg[/swf]
This one's a bit more involved, but I think it's seriously cool…go to the 2:10 marker, the first part is a bit boring/unrelated because he picks a different twig in the second part.
[swf width=425 height=350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/esfo6Wh-Ty8&NR[/swf]
I would have to agree that those animals are most likely just adapting to a different method of surival…
still amazing though.
most humans think that animals couldn't possibly be that clever enough to adapt to things, to plan ahead and so on forth…
but there's been studies that there's certain birds that actually plans ahead when it comes to food, etc..
I amused the other day by a blackbird who kept flying into the back of an airline catering truck that was waiting for a flight to arrive at the gate.
It would take a bag of peanuts from the truck, drop it on the ground, rip it open and eat them. After it snatched about three bags. I alerted the driver and told him he probably should drive around or the bird would get all the peanuts.
and doves are probably the dumbest.. we're usually peeling them off the taxiways.
Is the action of animals really considered evolution? For all purpose-specific uses isn't evolution the scientific term for the changing of chromosomes, or biological function of things through time?Oh, Iago, you're such a nay-sayer! This is obviously… uh… er… Come to think of it, you're right, actually.
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I'm not sure where the evolution is occurring. It seems that the chimps learned something new. It is fascinating that chimps are able to use rudimentary communication and essentially learn from each other, but that's really nothing new.
Now, if the chimps suddenly started MAKING weapons, that might get my attention. As far as I know, chimps don't possess the ability to construct tools, so they'd need to evolve in order for that to happen.
Parrot shows signs of actually being able to TALK, rather than just repeating.
This one worries me. I think the parrots are gonna beat the apes for taking over. ;)
As far as I know, chimps don't possess the ability to construct tools, so they'd need to evolve in order for that to happen."It's not uncommon to have chimps use tools." Hmm? Professor Jill Pruetz says "use" rather than "make", but it amounts to pretty much the same thing in the context: using a branch as a spear means it has to be made or adapted to that purpose. But they make and use other "tools" like stripping a twig down so that it can be used to probe termite mounds so that a tasty termite dinner can be licked off of the stick after each plunge…
But a lot of other animals evince behaviour that many once considered purely human. It's probably NOT a case of the animals changing, rather it's a sign that we humans are opening our eyes a bit more and are no longer exclusively seeing the world from a perspective of "god given" superiority as the apex of evolutionary potential.
There's still a bit of a problem though, because we're looking for things in (no-human) animals that make them more like ourselves, which is a little silly because they're NOT human and will never become anything like us. Rather the main concern should be about trying to understand them as they are… if you get my meaning? It's tricky to explain, but teaching creatures tricks or them being able to speak in language that we can understand (sign language, spoken English etc.), is a good example of exactly the wrong way to understand them.
Is the action of animals really considered evolution?yeah… we really can't prove it. Personally, with the monkeys, I really just think they're getting smarter. Not that they'll change physically anytime soon if it is evolution because that process takes thousands of years, but I would like to teach a monkey how to drive. hehe… monkeys…
For all purpose-specific uses isn't evolution the scientific term for the changing of chromosomes, or biological function of things through time?
I would call the gorillas stabbing things with sticks to be an adaptation, not evolution. If they all died out in a freak accident and one baby remained and that baby started stabbing things with sticks, I might consider that evolution because the instinct was passed through genes, but we have no sucessive generations to prove anything yet. Right?
I guess my point is that I don't know and I'm more asking than telling.
You monkeys! Getting smarter? Fwah! What a stupid thing to contemplate.
For one thing, what we observe them doing on their own in the wild we have no idea how long they've been doing it.
For the second thing, you can teach almost any animal (including insects) to do a vast myriad of things. ;)
The ability of an animal to learn and remember tricks isn't much of an indication of intelligence.
Parrot shows signs of actually being able to TALK, rather than just repeating.
This one worries me. I think the parrots are gonna beat the apes for taking over. ;)
ANYONE who owns a parrot knows that. I have two African Greys, and while their vocabularies aren't particularly impressive, they are intelligent little guys with VERY intense personalities: temperaments, habits, preferences, moods. They hold grudges for long times, respond to different commands and phrases (for example, whenever we mention our old parrot who died, Buddy, the one who was around while he was still alive gets visibly upset and doesn't let anyone touch him for 10-15 minutes) and otherwise indicate that they understand a lot more than you think they would (they get upset when you use strong swear words to insult them, even if you say them nicely!)
So…while that particular Grey is, I admit, unusually talented…it's nothing new. What worries me about him is that he's a feather plucker, which means he has psychological problems :/
Parrot shows signs of actually being able to TALK, rather than just repeating.Awesome. I need me of those parrots.
This one worries me. I think the parrots are gonna beat the apes for taking over. ;)
The ability of an animal to learn and remember tricks isn't much of an indication of intelligence.
So do tell me, what is the point of high school? ;)
to become popular and play sports (cause that's where most of the school's money go) and then make fun of the people that actually study in school
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