It was me.Well that clears some things up.
I did it.
And I would do it again!
BWAHAHAH!
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Mafia XLV: Return to Townstonia
For the record. I deleted one of blindsk's comments and sent a copy of it to Salsa because he was breaking the deadtalking rule.
We allow people to hang around after death AS LONG as they can keep their mouth shut about anything that they might have found out during the game.
For the record. I deleted one of blindsk's comments and sent a copy of it to Salsa because he was breaking the deadtalking rule.
We allow people to hang around after death AS LONG as they can keep their mouth shut about anything that they might have found out during the game.
Well, if I had known that I would have cussed Jay out! Darn that missed opportunity. ;)
I don't think she is… but I do think that is definately a clue.
You'd have to be pretty unlucky to be murdered by a rainbow van weilding a knife, I have to say.
EDIT: Just checked, she's not…
I don't see anyone with a moving avatar that would fit into the clue. But that's just a skim search, I haven't really searched extensively yet.
Well, if I had known that I would have cussed Jay out! Darn that missed opportunity. ;)What did he do that was cussworthy?
Only thing that I can see is the reference to chaotic clothing (garb)…Perhaps it's supposed to tell us that the culprit was a chaos priest?
…
Btw, folks. We're supposed to be lynching today and that imposes few problems.
1. Ally is alive again and she has the ability to cancel lynches.
2. We still don't know if she's an adventurer or not because both sides have reviving powers (and the narration was ambiguous enough for us to not know conclusively which reviver was doing the reviving) and Salsa doesn't want to tell us who's who, when they die.
This means that if she's an adventurer, she's going to pardon any adventurer that we attempt to lynch.
The only person she can't pardon is herself. Lynching is also currently the only way to take her out.
In short… I really wish I knew if she was an adventurer or not.
blindsk targeted the trap master last night and could be an adventurer)He's definitely an adventurer. This is given. The only person on our side, capable of attacking anyone, has two lives. He would have survived the trap.
Btw, folks. We're supposed to be lynching today and that imposes few problems.If i'm right, she will stay dead. Lynch her again.Nothing personal, but hey, it IS kind of suspicious. I mean, clerics where green like in the narration, and n one has given a good reason to revive her.
1. Ally is alive again and she has the ability to cancel lynches.
2. We still don't know if she's an adventurer or not because both sides have reviving powers (and the narration was ambiguous enough for us to not know conclusively which reviver was doing the reviving) and Salsa doesn't want to tell us who's who, when they die.
This means that if she's an adventurer, she's going to pardon any adventurer that we attempt to lynch.
The only person she can't pardon is herself. Lynching is also currently the only way to take her out.
In short… I really wish I knew if she was an adventurer or not.
I mean, clerics where green like in the narration, and n one has given a good reason to revive her.I also think it was the cleric who revived, on the grounds that I don't think the shaman would revive ally when there's a risk that he could be reviving an adventurer her, but it still could be either one. Green could mean that he's one with the nature which sounds very shaman like to me. Shaman rituals are also probably one of the oldest forms of magic practice around, which could be a jab at the ancient magic comment.
It would be great if the shaman is willing to confirm whether or not he was behind the revival.
What did he do that was cussworthy?
…Did you miss that whole instant lynching?? As far as I can tell, the entire basis for him lynching me was because I was running against him for Dungeon Master – which, I'd like to point out, was something I did hours before any of us found out what roles we had.
Also….me trying to strongarm people into voting for me probably didn't help, but eh, who's keeping track?
Just sayin'.
…
1. Witches also have the ability to cancel lynches, so let's not all thirst for my blood the second someone gets pardoned (if that even happens).
2. I have no idea who revived me or why, so don't bother. At this point I suspect EVERYONE. >_<
3. What the FLIP is up with these clues? ANYONE could have killed Mett. TT___TT
And on that note, is Mett worth reviving? Does anyone know what his role was? The only thing I know for certain at this point is that he wasn't trap master.
[Edit] Ok, not gonna be so hasty on the lynch vote thing. I should be talking this through with everyone first. But seriously, why is everyone out to get me? ):
DURRR… What did he do that was cussworthy?Sorry. For some reason I read Salsa, when you wrote Jninja. I totally understand why you'd have beef at Jninja for instalynching you.…Did you miss that whole instant lynching??
I was on board at instalynching you because seventy said that everyone who voted for you were adventures.
….
Ok, not gonna be so hasty on the lynch vote thing. I should be talking this through with everyone first. But seriously, why is everyone out to get me? ):Well… I can give you one good reason why I still suspect you.
This:
And on that note, is Mett worth reviving? Does anyone know what his role was? The only thing I know for certain at this point is that he wasn't trap master.This is what the shaman should be thinking right now. There's no way for us to tell who's who, even upon death so it's really risky for him to be reviving everyone who goes and dies on us.
The Cleric on the other hand knows exactly who he should revive. The fact that you were revived is thus suspicious.
Ally, were out to get you on the grounds that there is a lot to back up you being the mob boss. first, of the 5 people who voted for you, 3 were reviled to be adventurers with the adventurer leader being hidden, its a safe bet to say the leader voted for you as well. Two, you were revived. The shaman SHOULDN'T have revived you because you were highly suspect at that point, and because you gave them no reason. If you aren't the adventure leader, than the adventurers love you like a bloody deity.
On that note, my fellow evil townies, I have formulated an attack plan. Since it looks like Salsa hates strategy like a fat man hates salad, I figure lets start this off witch hunt style. Here is the hit list
Ally Haert's voters (3):
Ally Haert
Harkovast
Mettaur
gullas
Anthony Mercer
Now, 3 are guaranteed adventurers by our detective equivalent, with a potential 4 being our hidden leader. So, here's how this works. Vote to lynch ally. If I am right, she will use her ability to cancel the lynch and save herself, from there we go hit manning and double lynching the rest. If you have a kill role, attack members of this list, if you are out medic proxy, then do not help these people.
And a note to salsa, please do explain why it is we can't at least know the alliance of those we kill without sacrificing our magic man who by all logic could tell us what their alliance was by nature of the aforementioned magic?
Ally, were out to get you on the grounds that there is a lot to back up you being the mob boss. first, of the 5 people who voted for you, 3 were reviled to be adventurers with the adventurer leader being hidden, its a safe bet to say the leader voted for you as well. Two, you were revived. The shaman SHOULDN'T have revived you because you were highly suspect at that point, and because you gave them no reason. If you aren't the adventure leader, than the adventurers love you like a bloody deity.
Oh, please… the mafia side always vote for an innocent. If you're saying Ally's an adventurer because there are adventurers on her vote list… well, in every game I've been mafia in personally, the godfather told everyone to vote for the same innocent, to make that person look suspicious. Unless the adventurers in this game took a wildly different strategy, I doubt Ally is one of them.
As for Ally being brought back… either the cleric wanted to make Ally look even more suspicious (although I doubt he'd waste his revive on that), or, more likely, the shaman completely disobeyed your order, or missed it (as Satan suggested).
You know, I'm just saying, all this talk about seventy2 saying this stuff has got me thinking.
Perhaps he's the rouge who killed Mett.
In another part of the dungeon, Mettaur walked along, unaware of the figure who stalked him. The figure was always moving, even if he never went anywhere*. The chaos in his garb** reflected his mood. Mettaur turned towards the figure when he suspected something. But he was slow to bring his weapon up to block the wicked knife that tore out his heart.*Seventy2's avatar is a bird flying.
**Garb? Ninja wedding anyone? Actually the whole paragraph is ninja-esque.
Am I clutching at straws here or am I onto something?
This:The rouge attacked him so he can't be an adventurer.And on that note, is Mett worth reviving? Does anyone know what his role was? The only thing I know for certain at this point is that he wasn't trap master.This is what the shaman should be thinking right now. There's no way for us to tell who's who, even upon death so it's really risky for him to be reviving everyone who goes and dies on us.
The Cleric on the other hand knows exactly who he should revive. The fact that you were revived is thus suspicious.
Besides, he's the only person aside from blindsk (who we know is mafia) who can be revived, and we need to get those revive spells gone ASAP.
Ummm. Crazy question. But why would anyone know the number of adventures voting for someone, where the rules clearly state the the beholder can only look into the votes of sacrifices?
It comes down either to Salsa giving out the vote count or someone is downright lying.(And I remember hearing something about who voted before the cycle was even over)
Also, the words of Ally's revival sound kinda cleric to me. The role description states that the shaman has knowledge of blood and bone, and I would have expected to see role clue like that. (This is an opinion only.)
Also, Anthony, there have been many times where the mafia voted in mass to elect their godfather. Most games don't allow the detective to check the initial election vote. (Mainly because that has the potential to end the game before it starts.) Since the detective would likely check out the mayor or the pardoner, putting the godfather in office is the safest bet. Now, when it comes to lynch votes, I've seen several voting patterns. Dispersed voting - the mafia doesn't come out in mass and some might not even vote. Blatantly obvious voting - the entire mafia comes out in full force (usually done if they have been revealed to be the mafia or if the detective is dead.) The Niccea Switcherroo - The mafia changes all their votes at the last second making an entirely different person being lynched. (doesn't always happen and doesn't always work. And anyone who switches looks evil.)
Now, it has always been an erroneous opinion that anyone that has more than 4 votes for them, the voters are all mafia…we usually have a 15-20 person game, it is not unheard of that the town actually works together to make a vote. That is why this is called a strategy game.
The Chronicler has spoken.
(Now to put that picture Ally made in the comic, it reduces the number of panels in the page I'm to make)
Well that decides it. Seventy2 is probably an adventurer. Let's kill him.But what if Seventy AND Ally are both adventurers, BffSatan? She's a bigger threat in that case.
The rouge attacked him so he can't be an adventurer.It's entirely possible that the attacker was a chaos priest.
Besides, he's the only person aside from blindsk (who we know is mafia) who can be revived, and we need to get those revive spells gone ASAP.
The chaos in his garb reflected his mood.
garb-Something that a priest would wear, who has a chaotic mood.
–noun
1. a fashion or mode of dress, especially of a distinctive, uniform kind: in the garb of a monk.
But what if Seventy AND Ally are both adventurers, BffSatan? She's a bigger threat in that case.It can only be one or none of them. If they were both adventurers then Seventy2 would be doing a pretty silly thing saying that most of the people who voted for was mafia.
So either Seventy2 is lieing about being the beholder and he is actually an adventurer. (possibly the rouge that killed Mett).
OR
Ally is an adventurer and Seventy2 is telling the truth.
OR
Seventy2 is telling the truth, but Ally is being set up by the adventurers.
MY HEAD HURTS!!!! D:
It's entirely possible that the attacker was a chaos priest.I keep forgetting about them.
MY HEAD HURTS!!!! D:It happens.
Also, it's a good point that it's either one of them or none of them. Would be kinda silly of Seventy to claim that Ally is an adventurer if they both were.
But I'd like to bring up an old statement of mine. I consider one of the dumbest moves to make in Mafia, to claim that you have a special role, when you don't.
Reason… The person who actually has that role will know that you're lying. And since that person knows that seventy is lying, he would also know that Ally is probably being falsely accused and should thus contact her or someone else that he trusts to expose the charlatan. Failure to do so would harm the town more than staying silent.
This is the reason why it is in the best interest of the mafia/adventures or anyone else to pretend they're townies/minions or just simply keep quiet about which roles they are. Saying that you're anything else is just too risky.
It would be pretty silly for seventy2 to just claim he's the detective, unless he happened to know who the actual detective was.
Claiming to be something false would be a little easier to get away with in this game though, since dieing doesn't reveal your role.
Also, I think it's fairly important to note that since this game only has one minion, (and two body guards who the DM knows the identity of anyway), you'd have the same chance of being found out if you claimed yo be the detective as you would claiming to be the minion.
If he is lying then I wonder why the real detective hasn't surfaced. Perhaps they're just waiting for the first sacrifice so they can use their power before being killed. (Or they're just inactive).
A relatively crazy question, but could the "green robes" be a clue? Like pointed at TFGM or someone else with an affinity for the color? Just trying to overturn every rock.Also possibly OnlyFools. (Look at her signature)
And please. Don't forget to make your daily sacrifice to the volcano god.
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