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-scratches head- I scratch my head alot. hmm..

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Nobody voted for you Hark. The demon "godfather" used his lynch cancel ability.

Not only is he able to pick an innocent and kill him instead, he's able to use this ability twice.

Do I need to overstate how impossible this is for the town?

Now the demons will be able to screw the town big time.

Pro towns: 0 veterans, 1 guardian, 2 vigilantes vs demons: 9 killing powers (where one of them can kill twice).

This game is unbelievable unbalanced.

Mettaur
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And the Shadow Magician has an extra life, and the hero might be confused with him.

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This game is unbelievable unbalanced.
It's really true. I was thinking that perhaps the clues would be clearer this game and that it would be possible, early on, to double-lynch provided that a townie majority remained and voter turnout was strongly encouraged. If those lynches turn out acceptably and the evil party has inactive members, there's a slim chance. Come on, for once you've actually lived this long, so don't give up now XD

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Yes, yes. We're all aware of the shadow magician and his extra life.

And the silent assassin, who's able to ignore protected players.

And the deadly winter, who's able to kill twice.

And the godfather, who can kill with his lynch cancel ability and use it more then once.

Hark said that zeph was the shadow magician, without announcing who fed him that information.

Obviously, the person who told him that was also able to backstab him by dooming him in tonights lynch. It could mean that he lied to Hark and that zeph is an innocent but since the shadow magician also happens to be an equivalent of a veteran, who can survive lynches, then I don't see why he needed to lie about his identity. As far as I'm concerned, zeph is the shadow magician.

This game is unbelievable unbalanced.
It's really true. I was thinking that perhaps the clues would be clearer this game and that it would be possible, early on, to double-lynch provided that a townie majority remained and voter turnout was strongly encouraged. If those lynches turn out acceptably and the evil party has inactive members, there's a slim chance. Come on, for once you've actually lived this long, so don't give up now XD
We lost the paranoid and instead got a role who can survive night attacks and announce the identity of the attacker. We don't have a veteran either. The only edge that the town got was a 100% certain pro-town leadership. That's good, since it will help unify the town but it's not likely to help much if the demons can easily win the game in a single move (which is likely to be done tonight).

There's no fun in a game where the mafia can just bull rush itself through the town and there's nothing that the town can do about it. The game is supposed to be hard for both sides. The mafia is supposed to win via strategy, not force. Granted, whoever's leading the bad guys, this time is doing a good job at it, by pulling the "inactive first round" move, thus leaving us guessing in the wind during the first lynch. However, I don't see the point in strategyzing like that when you can just press the "I win" button and be done with it.

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Product placement….Seriously?

The bad guys get to cancel lynches AND kill a good guy instead?

Same….are you pulling our collective leg?
I mean seriously, against powers like that, how can the good guys win?
They not only render the good guys main method of attack ineffective, they actually turn it around to kill good guys instead!
People seem to dwell under the misconception that making the bad guys have more and more amazing powers and more and more abilities that kill townies each turn makes the game better.

IT DOES NOT!


On the plus side, at least it means you guys didn't vote for me, which is a nice vote of confidence.
Thanks team, I love you all too! *thumbs up*

Kroatz
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This means that hark STILL has never been lynched.

Kroatz
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Oh, and it's no wise to tell hark your role if you're mafia.
just sayin'.

gullas
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let the game, begin…

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I know it's against regulations but my recent outbursts have compelled me to switch my avatar.

let the game, begin…
Oh, OF course Gullas is a member of the mafia. He's like my Icelandic opposite spectrum. He's always mafia when I'm not.

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Oh, OF course Gullas is a member of the mafia. He's like my Icelandic opposite spectrum. He's always mafia when I'm not.

true true… but I have to agree with you that this game, although a promising and beautiful idea is horribly unbalanced… kind of like the 3.5 CoDzilla 8D

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kind of like the 3.5 CoDzilla 8D
And now I can't stop thinking about the day when a powerplayer created a 3.5 cleric and became an equivalent of a god.

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So… the consensus is the towns F*cked then? Sigh… for once I actually believe evil needs a nerf. God damn, why couldn't we be fighting SATAM evil instead of LotR evil?

Oh and Mett, how can you have a bar without the town drunk?

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Hark said that zeph was the shadow magician, without announcing who fed him that information.
But I don't get why Hark would opt not to disclose who told him that, since it's presumably an inside source who could be given up as well. He could also have safely told rokulily if his source was a townie who was privy to an information leak. It'd be only logical to give them both up since he'd have doomed himself already by talking; we could have double-lynched them early on or Roku would have known the mole, but did he tell anyone?

It's just that Hark has a known history of arbitrarily making stuff up, and if I were the other side I'd take advantage of that by letting it lead townie suspicion and skew clue interpretation for a couple of cycles until I had the majority. I'm not saying Zeph isn't guilty, it all just seems too convenient… :\

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I'm finally back from my mini-vacation. I had a lot of fun. And I bonded with my classmates. We went to a festival, rode four-wheelers, shot skeet, had s'mores, and watched classic Disney movies…and we were in the middle of nowhere, so I had a good view of the stars…anywho. Back to mafia.

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Sorry about today. Ive been relying mostly on open wifi. Which has been a massive mistake. The dark elf lord used the ability on hark to cause him to lynch himself instead. Also the collective leg has been ripped off. Also. Uh… its my first day?
Theres a lot of inactivity so im covering for that.

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I think since the town seems to screwed no matter what we should just lynch everyone at once!













And yes, I do realize we can't actualy do that.

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Heres the votes for those interested.
By the way. I apologize if you aren't enjoying the game.
Zeph:5
Harkovast
Rokulily
Queens rule
Kroatz
ProductPlacement

ip1nbs:2
1337
GarBonzoBean

1337:2
Mettaur
Jninjashadow

Mettaur
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To make up for not includin' you in the bar yet, hows about a drunken quest? That sound interestin' in the least?

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Hey! I voted.

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I don't want to be mean but I really don't really see the point in playing a game that I know I'm going to loose, no matter what I do.

If the demons don't attack the town tonight in full force I will be stunned, because they only need one good night to win the game. To drag it on, would be comparable to a cat playing with a mouse and frankly, that's insulting to me, since I belong to the side representing the mouse.

Even if I was a member of the demons, I would be talking like this.

Edit: I know I sound like a real jerk right now and I apologize back at you, same.

Kroatz
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keep the game going. The mafia don't have as much of anedge as you think, since they appear to already have a traitor…
















Mett

Mettaur
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You're still sore about that game, but that doesn't mean you do this. I'm a townie, I swear you can have me checked by the detective…if there is one this game. I'm going to check.
EDIT: Turns out there isn't, but Kroatz is just Kroatz. I think I'm just gonna ignore him for this game.

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Even if we're given a full list of every member of the team, it would still take several turns of successful double lynches and co-ordinated strikes with our two vigilantes to win this.

Only one good night for the demons and they outnumber the pro town. They know who each other are, we have to distrust everyone. We have to deal with friendly fires/lynches while they can manipulate the votes and work together during the nights.

Unless the demon players happen to be completely inactive, uncooperative or something along those lines, we don't stand a chance.

Ok. I'm done talking like this. I'm starting to get sick of myself so I have no idea how annoyed you guys are getting. I wouldn't be surprised if the vigilantes were gunning me down now, in order to shut me up.

Edit: Yeah, thanks for pointing that out mett. We're even missing a detective.

I'm starting to think that same wanted the demons to win.

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