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American Football- Pansy ass rugby for those too wimpy to be willing to call a knee to the balls fair play and feel the need to wear a cup. Also loved by those who wish to wear spandex and grope other men on a field. Very similar to wrestling in this manner. Often loved because of cultural institution in the form of high school.

I would change only one thing, inserting "very large, sweaty men" somewhere in the line "Also loved by those who wish to wear spandex and grope other men on a field," given your average American linebacker masses about as much as any two rugby players.

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I would change only one thing, inserting "very large, sweaty men" somewhere in the line "Also loved by those who wish to wear spandex and grope other men on a field," given your average American linebacker masses about as much as any two rugby players.

An inexcusable omission on my part. I'll add that.

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I think I may have actually made myself sick on a mental image I just had. I'm going to have to withdraw from this conversation XD .

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I don't think it's wussified at all. Rugby is dangerous, but so is Grid-iron.
I just wonder why they make it so dangerous that you need that sort of protection?

It's basically making the sport so unplayable that not even giant men with titanic strength can play it unscathed… Seems to me that common sense went missing at some stage.

Ruby is dangerous, true, but they don't have a whole heap of protection because they don't need it. Not as much anyway.

Maybe it's like this: because the guys have the protection, they CAN go beyond normal, more safe attacks and be more reckless, more aggressive? so in that case, the "protection" actually makes the sport much more violent and dangerous…?

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Ruby is dangerous, true, but they don't have a whole heap of protection because they don't need it. Not as much anyway.

That was exaggeration for humour effect, but I'm sure you know that.

And in all honesty, at least here in the States I would say the rugby players need the protection more than the football players. Most rugby games here result in more than a few bloodied noses, larger scrapes, broken fingers/toes, etc. Rugby might get played different elsewhere, but at least in my experience it's the much rougher of the two sports.

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But could the same manoeuvres be done in Grid iron without the protection and not result in more severe injury than what you get in Rugby?

I hear of a lot of broken bones of all sorts in rugby, flattened faces and ears torn off etc, but I tend to hear of more deaths and paraplegia in Grid Iron; normally from head and spine injury…

I'd imagine that the helmets and shoulder pads encourage activities that lead in that direction?

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But could the same manoeuvres be done in Grid iron without the protection and not result in more severe injury than what you get in Rugby?

I hear of a lot of broken bones of all sorts in rugby, flattened faces and ears torn off etc, but I tend to hear of more deaths and paraplegia in Grid Iron; normally from head and spine injury…

I'd imagine that the helmets and shoulder pads encourage activities that lead in that direction?

Indeed.

I would feel more comfortable smashing you over the back of the head with a baseball bat if you were wearing a motorcycle helmet.

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But could the same manoeuvres be done in Grid iron without the protection and not result in more severe injury than what you get in Rugby?

I hear of a lot of broken bones of all sorts in rugby, flattened faces and ears torn off etc, but I tend to hear of more deaths and paraplegia in Grid Iron; normally from head and spine injury…

I'd imagine that the helmets and shoulder pads encourage activities that lead in that direction?

Indeed.

I would feel more comfortable smashing you over the back of the head with a baseball bat if you were wearing a motorcycle helmet.

I've seen some of the moves these players do and a lot of the time I cringe when I watch some guy going for a fall that looks like it's about to break his neck. And the biggest problem about that is that it's considered a clean tackle from what I've seen (I don't watch much).

Can't they, I don't know, introduce a few more rules that won't result in as many broken bones and head trauma?

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