As it is the preview is a decent enough place to upload comics to. The problem is though a lot of people are looking for a host, not a place to upload comics to. I wonder if Wowio recognizes the difference between the two.
I'm curious also to see what readers reactions to it would be. The feature set for readers is something like: comments. email alerts. favorite. share. recommend. like. (are those last five the same thing, or is it just me? And the difference between favorite and recommend is confusing.) profile with bio, friends, video linking, trophies.
I got confused between "Favorite" and "Recommend" myself. Glad I'm not the only one. Mentioned it on the feedback, but it was explained to me that it was kind of the same as it is now, just in a different way and supposed to be easier, but I still like it how it is on this old site better, that's just me. It's not just a huge issue right now in the grand scheme of things with the coding issues and link exchanges which are taking higher precedence, but I can see how it might cause future confusion and problems to readers.
I got confused between "Favorite" and "Recommend" myself.
Me too! I told the guys that in person over Skype. Skool seemed to get it, but it didn't seem logical to me- not that our current method is that great either though.
I thought I replied to the favorites/recommends thing, but now I remember that was last night and the site was slow and I didn't have the patience to keep trying to submit it. So… now I have to retype the whole thing I guess. Time-saving! That's me. :]
The feature set for readers is something like: comments. email alerts. favorite. share. recommend. like.
Comments: You can comment all OVER the site now, on tutorials and newsposts and podcasts and everything! :D Yaaaaay, one of my favorite things about the new site.
email alerts: This sends you an email when a comic you've earmarked for that service, updates. So you can keep a closer track on it.
Share: Various doodads for facebook, twitter and so on. These generate links etc. that you can post out into social media.
Like: I'm not sure what function this actually serves, it's basically just a popularity thing. Once you like something you can't unlike it (apparently), and you can only like a comic once. I haven't bothered to check yet whether you can like individual pages, but I don't think so. I think it all just counts toward the main comic.
Favorites: Puts the comic on your favorites list so you can follow it internally, like it does now. No change really. (Also lets you "duckmark" it, with set/go, which is convenient.) People's favorites are private.
Recommend: This is a public "favorites" list which shows up on your profile. It is independent to favoriting now. You don't necessarily have to favorite something to recommend it any more. I know in many cases you WILL want them to overlap, but there are some cases where you might not. Mainly, if you are recommending a comic that may not update any more, or that you prefer to follow in RSS or something, but don't want it cluttering up your Favorites list. Moving it to the top bar I think also makes it more obvious how to do that function, whereas before it was hidden in "manage favorites."
And it appears they haven't implemented an rss feed for comics, I put in a Feedback thing about that. Hopefully it's easy enough to do, because I know people use it.
TIM WELLMAN HAD A TOP 50 COMIC. (Actually the last time he gave us numbers in this thread it was #65 overall, but hey close enough right?) Just you know, in case you missed his constant repetition.
Also, get off your high horse. You bitched and moaned, increasingly tried to stir up shit, didn't actually contribute to the constructive feedback going on, took your toys and stomped off saying you were leaving forever, then you came back all friendly and acting like you had some part in effecting changes that WERE ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY. GTFO you ass. I have no patience for you any more.
All the rest of my vitriol has been omitted.
Jesus Christ, I don't like Tim anymore than you do, but you're an admin for fuck's sake. You shouldn't tell a user to "get the fuck out", publicly no less.
I don't like Tim anymore than you do, but you're an admin for fuck's sake. You shouldn't tell a user to "get the fuck out", publicly no less.
There's all kinds of shouldn'ts, and this one does not bother me.
I put it in the same category as the whiny kid in a store who's parent reasons, orders, pleads and then finally, volcanically, curses the kid out. It's usually loud and unpleasant for all.
Jesus Christ, I don't like Tim anymore than you do, but you're an admin for fuck's sake. You shouldn't tell a user to "get the fuck out", publicly no less.
Nothing says internet is serious business like slang acronyms!
If his feelings are hurt by A Person On The Internet (calling him out on his crap) then he has bigger problems than me saying something mildly inappropriate after getting tired of his dumb posts.
Jesus Christ, I don't like Tim anymore than you do, but you're an admin for fuck's sake. You shouldn't tell a user to "get the fuck out", publicly no less.
Nothing says internet is serious business like slang acronyms!
If his feelings are hurt by A Person On The Internet (calling him out on his crap) then he has bigger problems than me saying something mildly inappropriate after getting tired of his dumb posts.
They're serious when you're using them in an inflammatory and serious manner, yes.
And silly me, I thought being a good admin and running a successful website didn't entail telling users to fuck off at every opportunity. Tim is a little shit, but you guys are setting a pretty bad example too.
They're serious when you're using them in an inflammatory and serious manner, yes.
And silly me, I thought being a good admin and running a successful website didn't entail telling users to fuck off at every opportunity. Tim is a little shit, but you guys are setting a pretty bad example too.
If I was serious I wouldn't have said "GTFO," I would have used proper language. If DD had a get out frog I would have used that. And if I were serious-serious I could have just forum banned him.
If you've been reading this thread you'll know that we spent a lot of time replying normally to him even as he got more inflammatory and appeared not to be reading our replies at all. So I don't know where you're getting this "at every opportunity" from. I'm an admin, but I have a limit to the crap I'll tolerate and Tim went over it. I don't have to sit here and put up with any more of that than I want to. I can let him spew whatever stuff he likes, even about how how Oz and I are angling for Wowio jobs and we're in Wowio's pockets and how Wowio is going to fire us, but I am NOT letting him act like he did and then waltz back and pretend like he participated positively and helped achieve something. After people called him out the first time, he just did it again. In a way he was taking credit from me and oz, even, since we're the ones who have been lobbying for some of the stuff that has been/will be put in even before anything was made known to the public.
And that is way too much of my time spent on the guy.
That's not praise-worthy, that's how dictatorships work, take away everything, then give a little back. But it seems that's how they've decided to work… take away everything, then give a little back to make it seem like they're trying to help us. Just remember, THEY took everything away… WE'RE trying to get back to just where we are right now. The war continues…
(…or we could just leave Tim to his own devices and quit derailing the thread. It would've done to just PQ him. =_=)
Any word on when the switch-over is going to happen? Or the to-do list that went AWOL?
Also, I don't know if anyone has this problem, but on my Mac (when using Safari), the links to the Forums, Tutorials, ect on the top of the front page are hard to click; there's only a very small sliver of space to click. Granted, it is the preview site so maybe things aren't compatible with all systems/browsers?
\r we could just leave Tim to his own devices and quit derailing the thread. It would've done to just PQ him. =_=
I feel Skool is perfectly ok in venting, as are we all, equally. Le Farce reprimands for her for doing so are base hypocrisy- quite offensively so. _______________
Could you please take a screenshot of your issue with the nav bar in Safari? There shouldn't normally be an issue there since our programmers and designers are Mac people. They would've checked the site extensively on Macs all through the Wowio offices.
Your issue sounds like what can sometimes happen when the font size or the font style is set to be specified by the browser rather than the site. Have you got any settings like that in your browser properties? I know I've had that issue myself on a number of devices.
They're serious when you're using them in an inflammatory and serious manner, yes.
And silly me, I thought being a good admin and running a successful website didn't entail telling users to fuck off at every opportunity. Tim is a little shit, but you guys are setting a pretty bad example too.
If I was serious I wouldn't have said "GTFO,
Please re-read your post and tell me that if I wrote it I wouldn't be getting a slap on the wrist. Let me know because I want to make sure I know exactly where the line in the sand is. tia
If you want to keep throwing that "it was all a joke, the whole time!" card at me, maybe it's you who should take your bag of bullshit and GTFO. you backpedal any faster you gonna moonwalk right through that wall
I feel Skool is perfectly ok in venting, as are we all, equally.
Oh ok, so it is allowed to tell users directly how much we despise them. Gotcha, I thought the rules would have been amended or something. Also if we're all entitled to vent, why are we telling Tim to shut up? Like, I get that he's a total lunatic and not worth anyones time, but this speaks a lot about your views on equality and hypocrisy.
There has been a lot said about HTML but none said about the home page feature. I actually use it to show the chapter list and show off awards. There has been nothing about what will become of this. (So that might be something to talk about OZ)
We are still missing the darn checklist about what features are being worked on so we aren't worrying about things being dropped.
Suggestion: Drop the HTML reply format and return to BBCode (it is less of a hassle). Or at least you hit on the total unfunctionality of it.
Any word on when the switch-over is going to happen? Or the to-do list that went AWOL?
I sent an email over the weekend reminding them about that, but haven't heard back yet. I can ask again in this meeting today. (so many meetings…)
Suggestion: Drop the HTML reply format and return to BBCode (it is less of a hassle). Or at least you hit on the total unfunctionality of it.
We've both suggested this to them too, to just ditch it. We'll bring this up in the meeting too. And the Homepages (which I had thought were coming, but want to make sure now.) Although, depending on what they include in the regular page features, you might not need the homepage for those things any more.
OH! FUCK! WHAT!?!? SHIT! MY COMPUTER JUST BURST INTO FLAMES FROM ALL THE RAGE HERE! FUUUUCCCCKKK! …
Ok, I put it out now, but that was close.
Anyway. I was wondering about the whole PNG thing, I understand that it's better for mobiles, but does anyone actually read webcomics on their mobiles? I can understand perhaps reading webcomics on an iPad, but I couldn't imagine trying to read most comics on a phone. I use statcounter for my comic's main site and I don't think I've seen anyone using a mobile browser. Even if people were to read comics on their mobile, wouldn't the most likely just be checking up on comics they already read rather than browsing through drunkduck? I'm just wondering if this is actually a thing worth doing.
I mean, the problem is that when you convert a jpg to a png then the file is going to be even bigger than if you had just had the file as a png to begin with; and there are some people on this site who upload (which they shouldn't) 1.5mb+ jpg's, which after converting to png would become phenomenally huge.
Your issue sounds like what can sometimes happen when the font size or the font style is set to be specified by the browser rather than the site. Have you got any settings like that in your browser properties? I know I've had that issue myself on a number of devices.
I haven't changed my settings at all and now it's working o_O. It certainly wasn't for days, maybe they caught the issue and fixed it.
I'm very curious to hear what they said about html. I don't know why this is such a big issue, custom html is a deal breaker for most people I'd say. ~_~
Anyway. I was wondering about the whole PNG thing, I understand that it's better for mobiles, but does anyone actually read webcomics on their mobiles? I can understand perhaps reading webcomics on an iPad, but I couldn't imagine trying to read most comics on a phone. I use statcounter for my comic's main site and I don't think I've seen anyone using a mobile browser. Even if people were to read comics on their mobile, wouldn't the most likely just be checking up on comics they already read rather than browsing through drunkduck? I'm just wondering if this is actually a thing worth doing.
I was the one that brought up mobile browsing on GetSatisfaction. I was trying to see if the site worked on my DSxl (it gave a ram error and I couldn't close the preview message.) I don't think browsing comics is a very good idea (the author would need to have mobile screen specs in mind right from the start for it to work, and full html access would be a must here too), but if you're an author that's going to be away from your main computer for a while, then it would be neat to still be able to log in and reply to comments and such. Back then I honestly figured The Duck had a chance to be the best experience for web comics, but at the moment the coders seem very short-sighted to me in what potential The Duck could have. As I said before, it's a place to upload comics and that's about it so far. I'll keep an open mind though.
I have an Android phone and tablet and I browse comics fine on DD. In fact I do everything fine of DD with them both with no issues… Except the speed. DD is so painfully, randomly slow these days that it's just not fun.
I never have "mobile view" turned on on any device and the standard Android browser is made with Webkit so it usually registers as Safari to most trackers- so you'd never really know if someone looked at your site on a mobile device… if it was Android atleast. Probably ios devices all register as Safari too.
To be honest I have a DSI XL myself and the web browser is a POS! It doesn't have enough memory for hardly any web pages whatsoever and is always crashing after only loading about a 3rd of any web page or only viewing about five pages or so on any site if you're lucky enough to get a whole one loaded to begin with. If I'm using a mobile device to web surf I use my iPhone instead, and while it is tough to work with by being so small, I have no problems doing anything that I would normally do on a computer. That said, though, I really only use it for quick check ups and then come back on a computer later to make comments and whatnot.
Did…did skool just tell someone to get the fuck out? Did that just happen?
This forum seems to be going crazy.
Or I am.
Or both.
Admins, please don't down to the level of swearing at people, if you guys wont rise above it then nobody will.
As for changing the file type of the images of comics…seriously? Are they just saying joke ideas to get a reaction out of us? Are they just going to keep pushing it to see how silly they can get and still have us believe it?
I am bracing for the announcement that The Duck will not actually feature any webcomics. It is the next logical step.
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