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The Offical Mafia 4 Game Thread: Mafia 4, Mafia Harder!

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Well after going through alive people's avitar, I conclude that Harkovast was killed by Flapjack cause Flapjack's avi is the only one with a "red light" in it and the clues said "red light"

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I forgot Skulbie was even playing.

Well I do have some info that is linked directly to the rival member, but I don't know who it is for sure… And I wasn't sure that the rival member was the extra killer until Baron said what he did.

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To be clear, the Genndy clue points to kitty because of her drawing of the major's aid from POWERPUFF GIRLS. I have two reasons to believe that Kitty is mafia. I'm just surprised she isn't running for mayor.

OK. Barron confirmed it- the mysterious "extra" killer was the rival member and it's a she.

That means all the females are suspect…
I dunno O, some people have been called she's on accident because of avatars. I don't think you can just narrow it down to true gender. But, in essence of cooperation, here is the list off the top of my head of gender and avatar.

Odysseus55
Aghammer
Niccea
Ochi
Skullbie
Kitty17
Cool guy (that one is very vague. We know it is a guy, but he has a lot of girl avatar)

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Well after going through alive people's avitar, I conclude that Harkovast was killed by Flapjack cause Flapjack's avi is the only one with a "red light" in it and the clues said "red light"
That's impossible because Harkovast was killed after flapjack.

Flapjack was killed in the first night, Harkovast in the second.

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Me too and she has been very quiet.

I forgot Skulbie was even playing.

Well I do have some info that is linked directly to the rival member, but I don't know who it is for sure… And I wasn't sure that the rival member was the extra killer until Baron said what he did.

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I guess that would work Ag…it could also explain some of the loss of important roles. Crocty would trust Kitty a bit easier than most.

And Skullbie has never been the most active. She almost never posted in my game, but she never missed a vote.

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In the first game Skull was a hyper player! We chatted constantly via PQ after she dies, trying to work out who her killer was…

Kitty could be Mafia… be she could also be the "rival" member, since that's definitely a she…

But is the Tartovsky thing just another herrring?

For now I'm going with the other two connected killings.
- and gullas… Who I'm not sure of.

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In the first game Skull was a hyper player! We chatted constantly via PQ after she dies, trying to work out who her killer was…

That was through PQs. She didn't post too much in the game thread.

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I thought she contributed OK in BK's game before she died and even as a dead talker… (we REALLY thought Gullas killed her but it was Skool all along…).
Anyway, yeah, she's silent now.

And I will be too, it's bloody 1:45AM shiiiiizzzzzzzzz! Night all!


Ok DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR A NEW MAYOR!!
Standing:

Ozone
Ody
Niccea

Vote for one, please!

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I still don't see how you got Gullas from those clues. <^.^> But the clues for Skool were the least obvious.

But the past is history.

Vote for me or Ozone.

Ozone - cause he seems to know what he is doing.

Me - cause I want to be mayor, dammit!

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HARKOVAST IS DEAD! HARKOVAST IS DEAD! I TOOK OUT MY GUN AND BLEW OFF HIS HEAD!

Sorry I couldn't resist saying that since his name fit the ryme. Anyway Double "O" (Ozoneocean) Has a point. There is a person claiming to be a vigilante killing off townies. That is very bad and wrong. Killing is badong. And nonkilling is gnodab.

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uh, thanks for that.

The only clear killer at this point is KITTY17. If there are still any other townies out there, we need to vote to lynch a mafia today and not another townie. If Gullas is a townie we shouldn't lynch him (even if he might have cost us the game) and if he isn't, the real Vig can hit him tonight.

Townies… feel free to PQ me if you don't agree. Mafia types… :P

HARKOVAST IS DEAD! HARKOVAST IS DEAD! I TOOK OUT MY GUN AND BLEW OFF HIS HEAD!

Sorry I couldn't resist saying that since his name fit the ryme. Anyway Double "O" (Ozoneocean) Has a point. There is a person claiming to be a vigilante killing off townies. That is very bad and wrong. Killing is badong. And nonkilling is gnodab.

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Shouldnt that be O3H2O?


Vote for me, vote for Niccea or Ozone, but darn it vote - so we can beat the mafia.
And probably gullas.


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Quick Vote count,
Ody has 1
Ozone has 3
Niccea has 1

Lynch count
Cool Guy has 3
Black Kitty17 has 2
Niccea has one

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Why trust Ozone? I've appreciated his assessments but I don't see any reason to trust he is a townie over anyone else. Also, do we have enough townies left to elect a major that is not mafia?

I will probably vote for Ozone because he at least appears inclined to analyze clues with me. I also voted for him previously because he made a good comeback as mayor in the first game. Hakoshen is a really good candidate, but his defeatism put me off, and Ody looks really erratic. Niccea is a good candidate, but I've decided not to vote for anyone with specific clues pointed at them (which is why I am not running).

And yes, we technically have enough people to elect a non-mafia mayor. There are 13 players and five mafia roles, leaving eight townies. The zombie and mob rival being subtracted would leave six townies, but those two roles should still have a vested interest in a townie mayor because their odds of survival would be higher in the long run. We should be able to outnumber them even at this late stage if we try to stay together.

I wish you had been open with Crocty while he was alive, Gullas, because now there's no way to completely trust what you're saying. Your timing is bad, because you only started confessing these things right after I picked out clues linking the two cases. Was I getting too close, or were you trying to cover up clues leading to someone else just because there were convenient red herrings pointing to you? There's no way to tell…

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Excellent summary. I talked to Hak… he isn't officially running for mayor. I think either Nic or Ozone works.

I wonder about Gullas as well… if he is mafia, that is a smart play (to say, hey I'm a townie that randomly kills people)… either way, he has made things very difficult. And put up the 20 sided die man… we need a focus on the mafia!


Why trust Ozone? I've appreciated his assessments but I don't see any reason to trust he is a townie over anyone else. Also, do we have enough townies left to elect a major that is not mafia?

I will probably vote for Ozone because he at least appears inclined to analyze clues with me. I also voted for him previously because he made a good comeback as mayor in the first game. Hakoshen is a really good candidate, but his defeatism put me off, and Ody looks really erratic. Niccea is a good candidate, but I've decided not to vote for anyone with specific clues pointed at them (which is why I am not running).

And yes, we technically have enough people to elect a non-mafia mayor. There are 13 players and five mafia roles, leaving eight townies. The zombie and mob rival being subtracted would leave six townies, but those two roles should still have a vested interest in a townie mayor because their odds of survival would be higher in the long run. We should be able to outnumber them even at this late stage if we try to stay together.

I wish you had been open with Crocty while he was alive, Gullas, because now there's no way to completely trust what you're saying. Your timing is bad, because you only started confessing these things right after I picked out clues linking the two cases. Was I getting too close, or were you trying to cover up clues leading to someone else just because there were convenient red herrings pointing to you? There's no way to tell…

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cool guy? He very well might be mafia but the clues for Kitty are pretty damning.
Shouldn't we focus on a high probably instead of a loose "maybe"? I assume that mafia are voting for coolguy? townies unite!


Quick Vote count,
Ody has 1
Ozone has 3
Niccea has 1

Lynch count
Cool Guy has 3
Black Kitty17 has 2
Niccea has one

Aghammer
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Baron, given the lack of Mayor and the way things went last night can we call for a double-lynch?

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You're right, Ag. It is a direct clue, and I can see why the mafia might latch on to my alternate idea to get my vote in order to get an extra number in the event that cool guy is innocent, since they're the minority and would need extra votes. I said we should be cooperating, and we might need everyone we can get.

This cycle, all townies should target Kitty. Let's cross our fingers and hope we're right this time.

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Just so everyone knows, I'm not running for mayor.

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Baron says a doublelynch has been called… maybe we need to get rid of both :D

You're right, Ag. It is a direct clue, and I can see why the mafia might latch on to my alternate idea to get my vote in order to get an extra number in the event that cool guy is innocent, since they're the minority and would need extra votes. I said we should be cooperating, and we might need everyone we can get.

This cycle, all townies should target Kitty. Let's cross our fingers and hope we're right this time.

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I voted to lynch coolguy, but that was earlier before we started looking again at the clues…

Kitty is looking more and more guilty to me, considering the stuff about her being close to Croty and the mayor's aide dying…

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