I'm sure i'll get one oneday. I'm good at making unnecessary purchases.
They sound like fun to work with, and it would make inking on the computer so much easier!
-laughs-
Yeah, i'm starting an art class in January. I really do want to get better. Even if it is just a hobby. I enjoy it, so why not improve, right?
I'm psyched for it though. I can't wait. It's a bit pricey, but if it will help, i'm okay with that.
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I hear ya. But, you know, we do get better with time.
I just re-discovered my old elfwood gallery the other day, some of those pictures were downright PAINFUL.
It's nice to know I've improved. :D
lol I hear you on that. when I was in my teenager years I could draw super-realistic animals and creatures really GOOD.. but when it came to people realistic-style the best I could do was just do faces.. the bodies would be kinda be all weird. like I'd have this giant realistic head on an body that couldn't possibly support the head. it was sorta like an Caricature, but not really…
((Edit: I actually conidsered only doing furry art because of this reason… you know those humaniod furry creatures and stuff. but then I didn't want to get grouped in with the Sonic superfans and stuff like that. snice the only people around my area that did furry art was BIG into sonic and would expect anybody who was even interested in furry art to know everything and anything about sonic. and well.. I didn't even own the game. funny how life turns out)).
and it was the same way when it came to my Cartoons/Manga characters… big head, awkward body. when I look back on that I just cringe. but then I just start laughing at myself, happy that I've improved a lot.
As I self taught bottom-feeder, I can tell you now that art classes, ANY art classes, are the shit.
Take as many as you can.
And yeah, the improvement is often so hard to spot, it's just a ton of little things that you never notice until you stumble across a picture that you did a few months ago.
In highschool, we had to copy a picture and i did this lion i was super proud of, it was pretty much identical. If given the time, and the motivation, I'm actually half decent. But without the motivation [such as a passing grade] I don't find myself really trying..
That's why the art class is gonna work. The motivation: expensive classes!
-laughs-
Here, proof that improvement comes with time.
Be warned, it's scary. REALLY scary. It made me laugh, and weep at the same time.
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/art/w/i/wingnut/wingnut.html
Oh god it hurts.
The how to draw books, whenever it be on realistic art or manga stuff, seems to help more than the art classes does for me…
but yeah I know what you mean about the motivation.. that's why I'm actually taking visual/liberal art classes along with other miscellaneous classes to help myself stay motivated. plus I want the art diploma. =D
although… sometimes the teachers actually does give you some pretty good pointers, despite the fact that sometimes they're real pompus asses.. if you know what I mean.
Here, proof that improvement comes with time.
Be warned, it's scary. REALLY scary. It made me laugh, and weep at the same time.
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/art/w/i/wingnut/wingnut.html
Oh god it hurts.
I think those pictures are actually pretty good. you should had seen MY pictures from when I was a teenager. :P
The art class I'm going to be taking is just a local thing. But when I get back to school next year, I'm hoping there will be some art classes for electives. Even the basic ones will be good. I know I'm taking a photography course, so that will help with composition and stuff.
But yeah, the major factor, as i have said about 20 times, is motivation. I can't wait for that motivation to be back.
I mean, i have had people try to give me motivation, but if it's just a friend, it's so easy to just quit.
I mean, i have had people try to give me motivation, but if it's just a friend, it's so easy to just quit.
that was why I put my stuff offline, so that I could get feedback from random people. the feedback gives me some of that motivation back. the other part of it is looking at other people's works and then aspiring to becoming equal or even surpassing the level of artwork by others.
I've tried that too. I can't start things i finish, and i'm an uber procrastinater. Self motivation doesn't work. And if i put stuff online and have others try and motivate me, i begin to feel like i'm trapped and obligated, and then end up just giving up and quitting.
-sigh-
it's vicious circle
-laughs-
[one day i'm gonna learn to edit my spelling mistakes, and say everything i want in the post before i post it. edits will no longer happen…. doubt it]
I've tried that too. I can't start things i finish, and i'm an uber procrastinater. Self motivation doesn't work. And if i put stuff online and have others try and motivate me, i begin to feel like i'm trapped and obligated, and then end up just giving up and quitting.
-sigh-
it's vicous circle
-laughs-
oh man, I feel your pain. I used to be an super procrastinater too… but that was an habit that I slowly and painfully weaned myself out of… that's just you need to think of certain stuff more as like a hobby or something fun rather than some sort of task…. and I don't actually ASK people to movivate me, I just post stuff online and see if people comment.
if they comment and say tons of stuff, then I make more.
if they don't.. well, I just put that off unless it's an project I enjoyed doing.
No, i didn't mean i actually ASKED them to motivate me. Some people just took it upon themselves. For instance, i'm also a 'writer'. I seem to have pushes that hobby aside though..
But i digress. I joined writing.com and put my stuff up. The comments on my work really helped, but soon i lost interest because i started to feel obligated and such with some of what some people were saying. And then, out of the goodness of their own hearts, some people started helping me along with improving my skills, but again, i began to feel trapped.
-sigh-
but i'm working on that.
maybe one day i will return to that book. I think it could have come out well… or at least mediocore.
…my typing/grammar/spelling and punctuation have kind of gone downhill
-laughs-
No, i didn't mean i actually ASKED them to motivate me. Some people just took it upon themselves. For instance, i'm also a 'writer'. I seem to have pushes that hobby aside though..
But i digress. I joined writing.com and put my stuff up. The comments on my work really helped, but soon i lost interest because i started to feel obligated and such with some of what some people were saying. And then, out of the goodness of their own hearts, some people started helping me along with improving my skills, but again, i began to feel trapped.
-sigh-
but i'm working on that.
maybe one day i will return to that book. I think it could have come out well… or at least mediocore.
…my typing/grammar/spelling and punctuation have kind of gone downhill
-laughs-
Yeah, I write too… :)
and yeah, I know what you mean about the typing/grammar/spelling thing. my grammar is bad at times…. ^^;;
and sometimes when I'm typing fast and don't just care, my spelling is shot beyond hell.
just look at my past posts sometimes to see the proof of that. ;)
and I can relate a little bit to the "trapped" feeling… espeically if the people keeps on begging you for updates to your stories. and then I feel all bad snice I don't really have the "inspirsation" to write it out well because I can't picture it in my head at the moment.. and sometimes it might take a month or longer for me to update.
I can't wait to get my comic up. But i don't have any strips yet. I'm not creative enough to come up with a daily joke.
-smirks-
Most of the stupid, insane things my friends and I think of are things only we will understand. A lot of inside jokes, and random stuff that wouldn't transfer into art.
Hence my need for a writer..
and I can relate a little bit to the "trapped" feeling… espeically if the people keeps on begging you for updates to your stories. and then I feel all bad snice I don't really have the "inspirsation" to write it out well because I can't picture it in my head at the moment.. and sometimes it might take a month or longer for me to update.
Exactly. It ended up with me just pushing it aside. I still have everything i've ever written. All the stuff on scrap paper. The entire story i was writing, both on paper, on the computer, and printed out a couple times. [different drafts] All the poems i attempted. I'm actually really proud of a few os my poems. 'Don't Be' in particular.
I'm rambling..
and I can relate a little bit to the "trapped" feeling… espeically if the people keeps on begging you for updates to your stories. and then I feel all bad snice I don't really have the "inspirsation" to write it out well because I can't picture it in my head at the moment.. and sometimes it might take a month or longer for me to update.
Exactly. It ended up with me just pushing it aside. I still have everything i've ever written. All the stuff on scrap paper. The entire story i was writing, both on paper, on the computer, and printed out a couple times. [different drafts] All the poems i attempted. I'm actually really proud of a few os my poems. 'Don't Be' in particular.
I'm rambling..
I just usually put up an notice about the "begging for updates" thing. I just state that I have other things and other projects in life to do, so that I can't always update and that I WILL update when I CAN. that cuts down on the begging, but of course there's always that occisonal idiot that still comes in to beg.
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