I don't think there should be a character limit on the bios. I sometimes write really long clearly inaccurate bios and the longer they are the better.
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Well I think it'd be a great compromise if you keep it as a simple feature with only the bio pic, links of choice (only a few), bio info, faves, and no more than a maximum of 10 "friends" and 2 "groups"
People from outside have always been able to set up accounts. If they didn't want to set up a comic here, they still have a profile page: Simply let them edit that like any user.
As for webrings or "Groups", I'd envisage those as being sort of souped up profile pages, yet with different attributes: THOSE would focus on listing many, many "Friends" who where the members of that group, as well as having a little bit of information about the nature of that group.
-just thinking about how things could work in the simplest way possible. Often we can get a bit overwhelmed with the possibilities of ideas.
I don't think there should be a character limit on the bios. I sometimes write really long clearly inaccurate bios and the longer they are the better.I categorically disagree with that! I admit that my suggestion of a 400 limit was rather small, but unlimited is open to abuse. Let's not be silly about this. next thing people will be saying that the avatars and hypothetical bio pics should be any size…
Limits should always be built in from the start. It's called thinking ahead. ;)
-edit- suggestions are open to all and I have no monopoly on things… I'm just arguing one case. your opinion has equal weight.
As for webrings or "Groups", I'd envisage those as being sort of souped up profile pages, yet with different attributes: THOSE would focus on listing many, many "Friends" who where the members of that group, as well as having a little bit of information about the nature of that group.
Personally, I'm thinking more of the webrings that DD used to have way back God-knows-when. Well…at least what I think I can remember of those webrings. ^^;;; My memory is clearly not that great.
So the profile pages for those would serve as more of a gathering point for those who are a member of those groups/webrings. So they could have their own little comment box to communicate with each other (or even a user forum) and maybe a specific list that shows which members' comics have updated that day. Founders of those webrings could mass PQ members or use the bio box to post news.
Maybe even have those webring tags/links/whatever that each member could have inserted into their own personal profile page. To prevent the webring list of a thousand deaths, we could limit the number of webrings that a member can join.
Certainly I remember the old webrings, one of which I was a member! :)
Well, yes, the added functionality you suggest sounds quite interesting. It does sort of evoke the idea of a community within a community… Which is ok I suppose.
Fair enough, That could adequately take care of the wider "networking" possibilities, but I'd suggest that is kept separate from the idea of the development of the User Profiles for the time being, just so the things don't become too confused. What I'm saying is that they'll work really well together when and if they're implemented, just that first would come the relatively simple User Profiles, and then would come the extra functionality in the form of the Groups.
-which you've outlined pretty nicely there. :)
How can you abuse text? I can see limiting other things but text doesn't take up much space and doesn't take much time to load, so what's the problem?Just takes a bit of thought ;)
For a start:
1). You have the problem of scrolling for miles over very likley irrelevent and uninteresting wirting, completly obsucing the purpose of the page: a simple profile page. (Save the real content for the comic.)
2). Messing up the formatting. (something minor, but it mean you have to design the whole format of the profile page around the possibly balloning text.
3). Text isn't limited to "text". Jpegs, mpegs, word docs, all sorts of things can be simply copied and pasted into there in a text format. With unlimited text restrictions, you could hide a small movie of two in that, porn, whatever.
-obviously you have no idea about how to do that, but I do, and a lot of other's do too.
-but as I say, my opinion doesn't count anymore than your's, so by all means continue to argue your case and come up with good suggestions. :)
Well I have a comicspace account, but I'm not entirely sure what it's long term benefits will be. My first reaction was hesitation, simply because I'm cautious about anything which resembles MySpace, so now I'm playing the waiting game to see whether any genuinely useful features are rolled out, or whether it just turns into yet another example of the triumph of popularity over quality.
As for networking on DD, I'm all for a favourites box of some kind. I keep on meaning to edit my template to link to my DD faves, but laziness prevents me - it would be nice if this was largely automated.
But I thought that networking is what the *forums* are about? If so, perhaps the focus should be on increasing the functionality of the forums and finding a way to integrate them into our comics though profile pages. Eg: a list of a comic owner's latest posts, or topics which they've started.
But I thought that networking is what the *forums* are about? If so, perhaps the focus should be on increasing the functionality of the forums and finding a way to integrate them into our comics though profile pages. Eg: a list of a comic owner's latest posts, or topics which they've started.THAT is really quite brilliant.
It will make those of us who post in the Top Drawer look like the morons we are though :)
Still, brilliant!
Is it a networking tool or an information tool? If it's the latter, then I can totally understand having a profile page with just a bio and a few links plus some favourites. In that situation, the profile page is really just for other people to access more information about the artist/author. The favourites list isn't so much a networking tool but just a "by the way, I read these DrunkDuck comics."
I'm down with an idea like that. There are already too many people who put a lot of work in to a "myspace" page for their comic, instead of actually doing their comic.
Furthermore, I'd be very interested in seeing what some of my favorite creators on DD are reading, as that's the best way to find new, awesome comics. If each page has a million "friends" with no reason for them to be on there except for the owner of the page to say "look I have a million friends" then that would defeat the purpose for which we are assembled.
How can you abuse text? I can see limiting other things but text doesn't take up much space and doesn't take much time to load, so what's the problem?Just takes a bit of thought ;)
For a start:
1). You have the problem of scrolling for miles over very likley irrelevent and uninteresting wirting, completly obsucing the purpose of the page: a simple profile page. (Save the real content for the comic.)
2). Messing up the formatting. (something minor, but it mean you have to design the whole format of the profile page around the possibly balloning text.
3). Text isn't limited to "text". Jpegs, mpegs, word docs, all sorts of things can be simply copied and pasted into there in a text format. With unlimited text restrictions, you could hide a small movie of two in that, porn, whatever.
-obviously you have no idea about how to do that, but I do, and a lot of other's do too.
-but as I say, my opinion doesn't count anymore than your's, so by all means continue to argue your case and come up with good suggestions. :)
1. how is this a problem?
2. also not a big deal.
3. so disable those kinds of code.
I think more restriction is just going to make it a pointless feature.
thegreatjoebivins, I think you need to look at some other aspects and offer some more suggestions. I've said all I need to in regards to your unlimited text idea and your 3 points there completely misunderstand the situation or ignore the points that I made. Frankly, they're nonsense.
The final point too:
The idea of the feature is a bio. Duh.
I've been on sites where you give 200 character bios, (even less), and they serve their function well enough. If you want a blog, just link to one from your comic. ;)
But this is becoming irrelevant bickering, theleast came up with a brilliant suggestion and Black_Kitty'sideas on Community/Webring/group/Networking pages really need further looking into! That's one of the most innovative concepts yet and forms a great compromise between dragonlova's more pro networking stance and the anti-Myspacers. It could really benifit from some more input. :)
Comicspace is the single best free tool for any webcomic creator, and it is making Josh a fucking packet of money. He must be swimming in that shit.
www.comicspace.com/beareatface
I'm actually amused with this. I joined just to see what'll happen next. lol.
http://www.comicspace.com/ithecello/
Well, add my name to the growing list of DD'ers on Comicspace.
http:/www.comicspace.com/coldknight_jg/
I like the idea of a myspace-type site made for webcomics. Hopefully it works out.
It's interesting seeing all the DD'ers on Comicspace. And everything they do.
I'm there as well. http://www.comicspace.com/mrgranger/
Also check out http://www.comicspace.com/kingtractorpress/
i never cared much for myspace as a matter of fact. i usually saw it as a place for people to horde avatars of people that they really dont know and say they have like 600+ friends. It's kinda rediculous… espcially seeing the mannerisms of people on that site. I swear… my boyfriend has like… 500+ friends… I bet he has no idea who half of those people are lol. I did get a comicsspace tho… i onno… myspace was not my taste because all i saw were people showing off how they looked and not really much netorking (unless it came to those bands and businesses who spam you with friend invites.) Drunk Duck having a profiles page would be awesome. It would be something I could work with. Also, I would be able to network with people in a way that would get my art out there. I felt that I would have a better chance getting noticed and networked on comicspace rather than myspace. And the heavenly light would shine down upon us all if Drunk Duck gave us all networking tools to work with. I know i'd be one happy cookie XD.
~Lace~
I'm one of those people who advertised on myspace. Really it was to make an "About the author" page since I'm html illiterate when it comes to making pages from scratch. (bf suppose to help me once he's back from war _ _; )
Hmm…Until DD gets something like this up, I say "Why the heck not!" I'll try setting a page up for myself.
What do you guys think of the new www.comicspace.com?
I've signed up under FOLEY, though I'm not entirely sure why. As it stands, is there anything that can be done with it other than acquiring friends and sending them comments/messages? Because I'm not seeing it (but then, I am on the "Incompetent to the point of Lunacy" end of the personal computing spectrum, so maybe I'm just not looking at it the right way…)
I'm waiting to see what happens when the additional features become available, in the hopes that I'll be able to figure out something to do with it that I can't do on MySpace, LIveJournal, and my webpage…
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well, I joined too :D here's my page: http://www.comicspace.com/anystar/
I think it'll make a nice networking tool indeed. :3
i thought to myself are there people tagging themselves with drunkduck on comicspace?http://www.comicspace.com/taglist.php?tag=drunkduck by golly, there is- i followed the crowd and tagged meself too.
i think comicspace is a great networking idea. i think mr josh has got a winner on his hands. i liked what he had done with onlinecomics.net so i really have high hopes for comicspace.
i also liked the idea of us having a bio page here at the duck.
well, me too…. http://www.comicspace.com/tonikaldal/
is comic space planning on going into comic hosting??
i thought to myself are there people tagging themselves with drunkduck on comicspace?http://www.comicspace.com/taglist.php?tag=drunkduck by golly, there is- i followed the crowd and tagged meself too.
Thanks for that idea. I forgot to tag myself as a drunkducker.
I'm on there now.
http://www.comicspace.com/penis/
WOOHOO! Way for me to jump on the bandwagon late!
www.comicspace.com/phat_scurl
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