I still harbor a secret inner desire to draw/write a mainstream super hero book.
So yeah, I'll be submitting at least one entry. But it won't be The Adventures of Superchum. No way I can fit it into their ratio.
I don't know. I hope it works out. More web comic popularity, even mainstream, is good for all of us you know? The Drunk Duck panel at Wizard World Philly was so enthusiastic. Everyone I met there had a lot of positive energy. Roll with that. Just use this thing DC's doing as either more incentive to make your work here kick that much more butt so DC pales in comparison, or use it as a motivation to try and get a break with the mainstream.
Either way, it's win-win.
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DC Comics to launch Zudacomics.com (a DD.com rip-off)
But I'm so cheap that if my favorite comic in the history of man sprouted on Zuda, and then got published and taken OFF Zuda so DC would make money, I wouldn't buy it.
Aww! I'd LOVE to get a comic published and printed. It wouldn't just make DC money, it'd make the creator money too; and if the rights are shared I'm sure the creator would have a say in what is being done with it. Free web stuff is nice, though. :D
Seriously, I think this zuda thing is proper cool; purely from DC having enough faith in webcomics risk money and open it out everyone like this (not to mention putting some control in the hands of the community over who gets published), that's great! How rare is that? It's a gamble for them as well as for us.
The format; I think it's a good idea. It works for the web better than full-length comicbook size does, and if you stick two together you can print it. Pow! Great! I do worry a little about pacing it out, and I also worry about wether I'm gonna have to start thinking about 4-page spreads now.. but eh, that's counting chikins.(XD) I look forward to the challenge.
Personally, I'm probably gonna give it a shot. Sure, if it gets picked up I'll lose some rights, but maybe I'll also make a little money off of it, which is more than I do at the moment. And if it all goes tits up and the property gets tied up so I can't make any more; big deal, I've earned something from it and there are plenty more ideas in my head. Seeing as I'll be creeating something specifically for this format, I've lost nothing, as I wouldn't have made anything were it not there.
My only concern is the interface, which we haven't seen yet, and wether they REALLY know what they're doing, or not. Drunk Duck is great because it's taken lots of input from the community, has taken its time to evolve and hasn't required any signup of commitment to take part in. Commercial sites often jump the gun and leap in without really knowing what's there, and put up unnecessary barriers to casual readers (such as tokyopop's forced "to read more.. sign up!!" clause). So I'm worried about that. (just read an interview where it states they won't do the tokyopop thing.. and update frequency is case-by-case.. so yay!) But in concept.. AWESOME. There could be potential to make comics and earn cash for doing so, and that's …well, awesome! :D I don't want to give up my day job, I can't afford to go the whole hog and try and be a professional Comics Creator ™ full time, but do I want to supplement my income a little with some part time comics work? Hell yes!! If that's what this means, if that's what zuda comics is offering the chance to do, then I'm all over it.
EDIT: Thought of something else. As this is DC's imprint, you can be sure it'll get some advertising attention between the covers of printed books. So say you're one of the people selected to be on the site when it goes live; there will be a lot of people new to webcomics (but that liek comics already!) coming in to check out this thing, and the first webcomic they ever read will be YOURS. How cool is that?! :D
I don't see how Zuda could be a true community if the only way to get in is to pass their submission process. I wouldn't call the American Idol stable of "winners" a community. That said, it will at least be interesting to see if they change anything due to all the backlash.
BTW uh…who's Tim Buckley?
Buckley's the creator of Ctrl+Alt+Del. He's responsible for Wintereenmas and the new Church of Gaming (Ugh).
BTW uh…who's Tim Buckley?
Buckley's the creator of Ctrl+Alt+Del. He's responsible for Wintereenmas and the new Church of Gaming (Ugh).
What's wrong with a Church of Gaming? I'd join up!
Anyway, I didn't see anything in that article about us jabbing anyone.
BTW uh…who's Tim Buckley?
Buckley's the creator of Ctrl+Alt+Del. He's responsible for Wintereenmas and the new Church of Gaming (Ugh).
Its always the untalented douchebags that get famous.
DC released more infor on the Zudacomics deal. Basically they have stated that if you are chooses/ or voted to do a print deal then you will continue to own all rights to you IP. They may know what they are doing a little, or they've been listening to what people are saying. They stated that they will be posting a copy of what the contracts will be like in the next few days.
DC released more infor on the Zudacomics deal. Basically they have stated that if you are chooses/ or voted to do a print deal then you will continue to own all rights to you IP. They may know what they are doing a little, or they've been listening to what people are saying. They stated that they will be posting a copy of what the contracts will be like in the next few days.
Yeah, this is what I thought. It is not any their best interests to screw people over. there is no point in doing webcomics if you are burning the bridges before you leave the island.
DC released more infor on the Zudacomics deal. Basically they have stated that if you are chooses/ or voted to do a print deal then you will continue to own all rights to you IP. They may know what they are doing a little, or they've been listening to what people are saying. They stated that they will be posting a copy of what the contracts will be like in the next few days.
It doesn't exactly say that. It says that the creator will own the original copyright, it doesn't mention the publishing rights. All that really means is they can't take "created by Nate Frisoli" off of the thing.
I'm not trying to be cynical about it. I don't imagine the final contract will be too much different than the kind of contract Platinum offers. But that remains to be seen.
Another thing I thought about- what if a creator made multiple accounts to vote for his comic? In a community like DD, this would be ultimately pointless. But with Zuda, money is involved, so there's no doubt that some may go to these lengths- especially if they have dial-up, which resets a computer's IP address every time it logs on. It likely won't result in a terrible comic getting a deal (it still goes through Zuda's editors), but it could result in an otherwise #2 comic getting the contract, or at least an average comic becoming a finalist.
Why would most ppl even waste time thinking about this, or about how terrible this is gonna be for webcomics, or about how deadly a trap this is for the unwary webcomicker?
Hello… it's going to have 1-2 new titles per month tops. In an entire year, the site will have 12-20 comics titles.
99% of the webcomics in DD will not even have a chance to be seen in Zuda. And if you do work your ass off on your submssion and it passes, prepare to quit your day job or your weekend softball team, because you're going to work your ass off for a year to keep up your updates and maintain top quality. Not many of us can do that, or want to.
Whoever said it is right - most webcomics are labors of love and done by amateurs. For most of you, don't even pretend you're gonna become pro. I know I won't.
Mlai never say never my friend!!!!!!!!
is anyone going to give me a deal im doing all this on my own writing and drawing and i learned coloring not that long ago.lol…..but anyways i dont like the idea bout the whole DC comic thing……if it were marvel they would have a better plan than that rip off.DD should sue.lol
but not be honest here i think thats a rip off.I want be seen dead posting my stuff there.
everyone has there own style. i love DD because of that.sure alot of us cant draw like they do but damn it there are lots and lots of great comics……if they want war i got characters ready for battle.lol
THIS IS DRUNKDUCK!!!!!!!!!
Mlai never say never my friend!!!!!!!!
is anyone going to give me a deal im doing all this on my own writing and drawing and i learned coloring not that long ago.lol…..but anyways i dont like the idea bout the whole DC comic thing……if it were marvel they would have a better plan than that rip off.
Keep in mind, the person DC just hired to head up their web presence is the guy that used to do the same job for Marvel. Kwanza Johnson, aka Marvel Dog, IIRC.
;)
It likely won't result in a terrible comic getting a deal (it still goes through Zuda's editors), but it could result in an otherwise #2 comic getting the contract, or at least an average comic becoming a finalist.
Well the editors at DC choose which ten are finalists, so I imagine they would only choose comics that they have realatively the same amount of faith in. And if I were them, hell if the race between first place and second place is that freaking close that one dude can vote for himself a couple times and pull out a win, I really wouldn't care. In fact I'd probably throw the other guy a contract anyway, because enough fans clearly like him to make it worth while.
That would just break my heart.
Haha, lol. QFT
Hello… it's going to have 1-2 new titles per month tops. In an entire year, the site will have 12-20 comics titles.
So by your argument you perfer quantity over quality? Blanklabel had 12 comics and they do just fine, because they're 12 really freaking good comics that update regularly. Whoever wins DC's little monthly contest is going to have to have an editor, which has all kinds of positives and negatives that come with it. You'll be obligated to update on time, you'll have to do quality work or do it over. These things are great for readers.
The big negative is that you're going to have some one that could very well tell you that "you can't do that" and if your comic is something that requires you to do things that other people might not want you to do, then you probably don't want to submit that one to them. Zuda looks like it is going to be a collection of professional level comics on the net. It won't be the first one out there, but it's nothing like DD. As long as there are gateways like DD or CG there will always be a voice for comic artists who want complete control over their comic.
But if you have some other ideas that you'd enjoy doing and don't need complete control over them, I can't see why you wouldn't want the opportunity to get paid for them. Hell, if anything it would give you more time to draw the comic you love to do in between drawing the comic you just "like" to do.
How many projects does fern have going on? If he got paid to do Daphne Descend daily on Zuda, do you think he'd just stop doing Teenage Wasteland? Hells no, Teenage Wasteland would become the bastion for all the jokes they wouldn't let him do.
Thats a total hypothetical. Fern is to damn loyal to even CONSIDER working for DC. word.
99% of the webcomics in DD will not even have a chance to be seen in Zuda. And if you do work your ass off on your submssion and it passes, prepare to quit your day job or your weekend softball team, because you're going to work your ass off for a year to keep up your updates and maintain top quality. Not many of us can do that, or want to.
Whoever said it is right - most webcomics are labors of love and done by amateurs. For most of you, don't even pretend you're gonna become pro. I know I won't.
The thing to remember is that you have to look at that contract and know exactly what they want and how much they are willing to pay you. If the pay is good enough then it might be worth dropping a few extra curicular activities. The main thing alot of people are going to use this for is a chance to get noticed. I admit I had my doubts, but they are less as time goes on. To me it now seems that this is going to be an online version of Image.
If you are not wanting to lose your life's work to DC and Time Warner then creat something specifically for this site. I doubt they are going to hold anyone to regular comic standards of deadlines. Hell even the pros don't regularly follow deadlines. It took Marvel almost 3 years to make Millar and Hitch do 13 issues of The Ultimates 2, DC has been late multiple time with Superman/Batman. The last couple of issues from Infinite Crisis were delayed back in 2006. So they understand things to an extent. And editors are actually better at making a successful comic alot of times. Not all the times but alot of the times. They know what works and what fans will respond to. They also let you know how much info to give out about your project during interviews and stuff. That way you don't give the whole story away, but you don't give the fans too little info either. Editors are also able to get solicits done, press releases, etc. Editors are great to have and I don't see them censoring what you want to do. After all they hired you because they liked what you were doing.
So by your argument you perfer quantity over quality?What I'm saying is:
1. "OMG ripoff of DD!"
-No, it's not. It's different.
2. "OMG I won't betray DD to go there!"
-You think too highly of yourself. Most of us can't get in even if we tried.
But if you have some other ideas that you'd enjoy doing and don't need complete control over them, I can't see why you wouldn't want the opportunity to get paid for them. Hell, if anything it would give you more time to draw the comic you love to do in between drawing the comic you just "like" to do.How much time do you think one person has? "I'll put in 100% effort on this top quality comic I'm being paid for to update on time, AND I'll draw some other nonprofit hobby comics on the side, AND I'll have time to relax/ go to school/ work/ etc!" I don't think so.
The thing to remember is that you have to look at that contract and know exactly what they want and how much they are willing to pay you.Somehow I don't think the standalone pay is good enough. It's most likely something you'd do to jumpstart your resume.
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