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Niccea
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Does anyone remember when we held the car drawing competition that Ochi made all those 4 panels for? Was that in XII or the GM election for XIII?

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How the heck does the townies keep winning when there up against crazy odds? O.<

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What do you mean? The last game was a mafia victory (I helped ^^) and I don't see any signs stating that this game is a guarantied win for the town.

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What do you mean? The last game was a mafia victory (I helped ^^) and I don't see any signs stating that this game is a guarantied win for the town.
That was when the mafia were up agianst the most odds. It seems like the underdogs just can't lose XD

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That was when the mafia were up agianst the most odds. It seems like the underdogs just can't lose XD
Maybe the reason is that once the odds are against you, you tend to work harder for your victory. Once you're in the "safe zone" you tend to become complacent and careless, thus increasing your chances of defeat.

When I GM'd my first game, the mafia managed to find themselves with both the pardoner and Mayor position and managed to kill off the detective, while finding out the identity of the vigilante. They became so certain of victory that they all revealed their identity around day 2/night 2. Sure, at that point it looked like the mafia was gonna win, regardless of what would happen but then they got unlucky. The vigilante managed to land a hit before the mafia did and the paranoid got targeted as well. Then the town rallied together and lynched the pardoner, so that he couldn't pardon himself. It was a close call in the end but the town managed to win.

Oh right… you were in that mafia. ^^

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That was when the mafia were up agianst the most odds. It seems like the underdogs just can't lose XD
Maybe the reason is that once the odds are against you, you tend to work harder for your victory. Once you're in the "safe zone" you tend to become complacent and careless, thus increasing your chances of defeat.

When I GM'd my first game, the mafia managed to find themselves with both the pardoner and Mayor position and managed to kill off the detective, while finding out the identity of the vigilante. They became so certain of victory that they all revealed their identity around day 2/night 2. Sure, at that point it looked like the mafia was gonna win, regardless of what would happen but then they got unlucky. The vigilante managed to land a hit before the mafia did and the paranoid got targeted as well. Then the town rallied together and lynched the pardoner, so that he couldn't pardon himself. It was a close call in the end but the town managed to win.

Oh right… you were in that mafia. ^^
It was Baron's idea and another member was in favor of it. There is not much a godfather can do when some of your team decides to act on their own, except go along with it :/

Thats one thing I don't like. When a relativily new member becomes God Father and a relativily experence player takes the oppitunity to basicly control the mafia through them. Sure you might just want to contribute your opinions, but you end up basicly not letting the person come up with their own. I'm not going to name any examples *Cough* you *Cough* ;3

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Hey. It was my first time as mafia and I got overly exited. You have no idea how frustrating it can be to play 10 games in a row, never receiving a single kill role. I admit I bossed my boss around a bit but he relaid nothing but appreciation to me since I played a big role in ensuring the Mafia victory in that case. I don't know why you're complaining since you were ranting about how the townies were winning all the games at the time.

Besides, inu (now random) did some stuff. He reminded me of the existence of the serial killer, cleared up my confusion about how the horse head worked and was on his own once I croaked.

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Hey. It was my first time as mafia and I got overly exited. You have no idea how frustrating it can be to play 10 games in a row, never receiving a single kill role. I admit I bossed my boss around a bit but he relaid nothing but appreciation to me since I played a big role in ensuring the Mafia victory in that case. I don't know why you're complaining since you were ranting about how the townies were winning all the games at the time.

Besides, inu (now random) did some stuff. He reminded me of the existence of the serial killer, cleared up my confusion about how the horse head worked and was on his own once I croaked.
Yes but at school he told me how frustrating it was to come up with an idea only to see that you had beaten him too it. I'm not saying don't share your thoughts. All thoughts, and opinions are vaulable. I'm just saying give the head a chance to come up with something.

I mean Baron basicly took control when I was Godfather and the way you talked about how you turned all town agianst each other it sounded like you did too. I'm sorry if I'm reading into this too much D:

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Yes but at school he told me how frustrating it was to come up with an idea only to see that you had beaten him too it. I'm not saying don't share your thoughts. All thoughts, and opinions are vaulable. I'm just saying give the head a chance to come up with something.
All right. He made that particular complaint to me but it sounded more like that he came up with ideas similar to mine, only that I managed to bring up the subject before he had the chance to do so. It's easy to see why he'd be frustrated since I was always beating him to the punch. I always consulted my ideas with him before instigating them.
I mean Baron basicly took control when I was Godfather and the way you talked about how you turned all town agianst each other it sounded like you did too. I'm sorry if I'm reading into this too much D:
I was proud of how I managed to manipulate the town into thinking that the real detective was an impostor, instead of me. I also made careful arrangements to make the rest of the townies believe that Salsa was a mafia so that they would focus on lynching him instead of me, should that event come up. I also made allot of effort to hide the rest of the mafia amongst the townies by raising suspicion among the other townies. I played the role of the confuser simply because Gullas had confronted me and I knew that as soon as he was dead, people would come after me. By making sure that everyone would be as confused as possible by the time my identity was found out, I ensured that the rest of my teammates would be relatively safe. Did I take charge? Yes, in a sense. I was the public figure who helped hide the true motives of the mafia. I was elected mayor and took over the leadership of the town. It can be hard at times to distinguish between the role of the mayor and a mafia subordinate and I suppose that Baron must have fallen for the same trap.

If Inu (Random) feels that I hijacked the game from him then I'm sorry but you can't deny the results behind my tactic.

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Ya know I wanna gm another game. I wanna get a hit on PP from somebody, and I will make sure that he winces ever time he reads the narration.

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The few times that I was mafia, but not the godfather, the godfather asked for my input anyways.And I gave it freely. Of course my input is more of a list of options rather than one.

Like: If this happens we can do this and this, but I don't recommend this. But if that happens, oh boy! We have to do that!

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The whole detective thing really cracked me up. I died early, which was disappointing but I'm glad my team won… go team!

I thought PP and Inu were a good team.

And, I agree, Baron jumped the gun in that game although we almost pulled it off… I ran with it and tried to convince people to just give up :)


Yes you guys did pull off an awesome victory :D

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Ya know I wanna gm another game. I wanna get a hit on PP from somebody, and I will make sure that he winces ever time he reads the narration.
So much love in here.

I'd advice against actively promoting the demise of specific players. It be a lousy incentive for them to join your game.

P.S. What's the deal with the two of us making such a brutal narrations for each other anyways? Why did that start?

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Hark's interpretation of the rules

1) Blame someone else. Doesn't matter if you think they are guilty or not, or even if you have a logical argument, just stick to your guns and say things like you are 100% certain.

2) Say things in a silly light hearted way so people dont take you seriously as the sinister threat to their lives that you really are.

3) Shamelessly plug your comic at every opportunity.

4) Read Kombat Kubs (see rule 3.)

5) Assume the GM is cheating you at all times.

6) Rest well in the knowledge that Hark has never been lynched at this game.

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7. Never believe a word hark says. Sometimes he speaks the truth but it is obscured by a heavy layer of bull shit.

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I might have to copy Hark's methid. He seems to stay alive so if I copy him I too will stay alive :D

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Niccea I sometimes even speak bull shit obscured by a heavy layer of truth!

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Mafia idea…

Western Theme?

Complete with the stereotypes of

Sherif
Bad Guy in Black

and other such people.

Thought I don't know if the Sheriff should be elected, drawn at random to function as the vigilante, or appointed by the mayor (that would be a fun twist).

I guess I'm looking for input and giving permission for anyone to take and run with the idea.

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I'm just throwing this out there, but I like mafia games where not everyone has a role. Because when everyone has a role either the casualties are too numerous too quickly or there are too many clues to work on at a given time. I like it when there are only a few guilty people and you have to weed them out of the innocent. As little as I get to play now, I enjoyed the slight thrill I got at logging on to see if I'd been found out.

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Ironically, since I'm promoting an all role game, I agree with you Hakoshen. However many of us have been playing this game for so long now that we're getting too good at forming strategies that weeds out small mafia groups. If we want to go for a classic, classic game, we need to level the playing field, clip the wings on the detective, increase the difficulty of the clues, possibly stop making clues, etc.

At least all of my new roles aren't kill roles so it's not gonna be over in 2 days.

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However many of us have been playing this game for so long now that we're getting too good at forming strategies that weeds out small mafia groups.

That is very true.

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I have to agree.
I just dick around most of the time, but clearly we are all getting a bit good at catching bad guys (for example, never running for office if you dont have a role etc)

We need to get the random element back in!

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