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How do you deal with the so called "Know It All"?

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I was playing an MMORPG once when I met a seasoned player who was insulting new players… to the effect of telling them to leave as the game was for "pros" only. I told him he was also a newbie once. His reply?

"I WAS NEVER A NEWBIE!!!"

Either he's got a very VERY high opinion of himself or he's overcompensating for something.

I'm sure it happens not only in games, but in life as well. The guy who says he knows everything. The person who says he/she's always right and you're always wrong. How do you deal with such people?

If it's obvious that they're just padding their own ego, I ignore them. Not always easy to spot someone like that, though. I tend to go with my own experience, and take his rantings into account if they make sense. Otherwise, words into one ear and out the other.

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That's why I don't play MMORPGs.

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I usually hit them with hard, pointy objects.

Not really, I've got a few to deal with though in my family and amongst my friends. I usually just nod and say: "sure, whatever," which usually stops them. Or say: "You happen to be an expert on the subject?"

That's not what everyone would do, but that's just my way. Cut 'em down harshly then go back to being friends.

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They're also called ACE's for Arm Chair Experts. They've never been there or done that. One good way is to start your rebuttal is by citing your references especially if its personal experience. But even then know-it-alls prefer their books and references to what really happens and will disagree with what was actually experienced and seen and touched.

Keep two sayings in mind:

Never debate a fool, you will only drag yourself down to their level and they will defeat you with superior experience.

Never debate a fool, they are too ignorant to know they're wrong and too stubborn to admit it.

The road to wisdom starts when you realize how little you do know and indeed how little you can know in the grand scheme of things.

Now to open the floor for our own resident know-it-alls to chime in with their own brand of foolishness. ;)

I have standing orders that if I ever act like a know-it-all for someone to take me aside and hit me hard on the back of the head to knock some sense back into it. My brain is very small and sometimes it rattles around the head.

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The road to wisdom starts when you realize how little you do know and indeed how little you can know in the grand scheme of things.

This, it's easy to get caught up in an argument and some people specialize in them, they may not be right but they will convince you they are or offend you until you piss off.

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On DD the biggest Know-it-alls are Ozoneocean, Bravo1102 and Isukun. :)

Don't know if there are anymore…? We're the biggest, baddest triumvirate.

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I know right? That Ozone guy, pfft, he's just a bloody know-it-all sometimes.

Although I would be interseted to see an Know-it-Off between the three of you, where only one shall become victorious.

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I try to avoid discussions with know-it-alls. That's why it took me so long to muster up the courage to post in forum threads which prominently feature ozoneocean's contributions :p

This is it.

People have mostly misunderstood this idea, but you get it.
(Quoted from here).

Basically, every time I read claims like this one, I have to rephrase them in a subjective form, just to be able to respond to them calmly and rationally :D

"People have mostly misunderstood this idea, but you get it." => rephrased in Abt_Nihil's mind as "Ozoneocean rejects all other interpretations, but agrees with this one."

I bascially have to filter all of the pseudo-objective stuff out (like: he's right! he's wrong! this is such-and-such!) and just look at the bare reasoning only. If there are any reasons left, I'll respond. If not, I'll only respond if my ego is in a good shape (and/or if I'm looking for a convenient way to waste my time) :D

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Although I would be interseted to see an Know-it-Off between the three of you, where only one shall become victorious.

haha I assume the person who would win a fight like that would be the one who's voice hasn't been lost by the end? :D

I live with a 'know-it-all', and I'm a bit stubborn myself so its not always a good mix, although at least I'm reasonable. I think my house mate believes he will emplode or something if he admits he's wrong 0_o

I dont mind a bit of debate/discussion, but when he gets too stubborn we all laugh it off/go look at something stupid on the internet to change the subject XD have yet to find a better way to deal with that kind of situation :P

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I try to avoid discussions with know-it-alls. That's why it took me so long to muster up the courage to post in forum threads which prominently feature ozoneocean's contributions :p
:P

It just comes down to being very self assured, reasonably knowledgeable, having a healthy ego and a touch of arrogance. :)

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In a Know-it-Off between me Isukun and Bravo the winner is obvious:
Isukun every single time.

You can't beat him. You might think you can, but it's impossible, he's always lurking like an unstoppable mechanical killing robot that keeps going long after the civilisation that created it is dead. In the end there will always be Isukun.

Bravo is knowledgeable but has the least staying power. I have much less patience than I used to, so I'll just leave off now if it seems a dead end or a vicious circle. Isukun will never concede or modify his position in any way and has the patience of a Buddha.

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I demand to see a Know-It-Off between the three of you to prove whether such a statement as "The winner will always be Isukun" is completely valid.

I've started to wonder if Stubborness or my favourite way of saying it "Stick-to-it-ness" is a cultural thing, as I know Australians as a whole are rather stubborn and "Know-it-all-ish", and some of my international friends comment on the fact… HMMMM….

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I've started to wonder if Stubborness or my favourite way of saying it "Stick-to-it-ness" is a cultural thing, as I know Australians as a whole are rather stubborn and "Know-it-all-ish", and some of my international friends comment on the fact… HMMMM….
I'll happily Know-it-All off with Bravo because Bravo is fun and I know I have more patience than him for too-ing and fro-ing- ie. keep it up long enough and he'll give up because he has far better things to do than argue with someone in a forum.

But not with Isukun. That's like trying to fill a bottomless pit. I concede defeat without a battle.
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I know what it is (hehe);
There are know it alls in every culture it's just that Aussies are usually right.

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There are know it alls in every culture it's just that Aussies are usually right

HAHAHAHAHAHA *breathe* HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA

YES That is the correct answer, here is a gold star.

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You can't beat him. You might think you can, but it's impossible, he's always lurking like an unstoppable mechanical killing robot that keeps going long after the civilisation that created it is dead. In the end there will always be Isukun.

Isukun certainly has staying power/stubborness. Although I tend to find Bravo is usually the one who is more often correct, or at least finds a good balance between knowing and being open to other views.

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Yeah, the line between stubborn and know-it-all gets very blurred in my family, and we've all been guilty at times.

Generally I lose patience and either smile, walk away quietly, say something obnoxious like "you're obviously in a snit right now". But when I've got a little more energy, for some reason I find it amusing to get David-Frosty and "interview" them to see how far it goes. Several times I can actually mask the underlying snarkiness and they don't realize that we're going for a ride and I'm driving.

*sigh. I'm very immature at times* And the WORST is that sometimes I'll remember what they say, even years later, and who knows when that missile will be launched!

*really immature*

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Isukun certainly has staying power/stubborness. Although I tend to find Bravo is usually the one who is more often correct, or at least finds a good balance between knowing and being open to other views.
Eh, Bravo does that thing where he pretends like it's all a big joke and "you just have to laugh" or something or other and bows out… When Bravo does the "oh life is but a joke/maybe I'm just crazy" thing, you know he's had enough. That's his code.
My code is that I get very "correct" and prim… snitty. When I get to that stage it means I've reached my limit.
YES That is the correct answer, here is a gold star.
And the Aussies win again! :)
The Vegemite is on the house!
…all over it…
And the WORST is that sometimes I'll remember what they say, even years later, and who knows when that missile will be launched!
This is one of the powers woman have. It only becomes stronger with time.

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This is one of the powers woman have. It only becomes stronger with time.

Have you ever tried it on a woman? It doesn't work. EVER.

My code is that I get very "correct" and prim… snitty. When I get to that stage it means I've reached my limit.
Yeah I noticed that. :) I suck at arguing as I can never remember details, I deal in very broad strokes. Doesn't support arguments very well.

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On DD the biggest Know-it-alls are Ozoneocean, Bravo1102 and Isukun. :)

Don't know if there are anymore…? We're the biggest, baddest triumvirate.
-Feels left out-

:(

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This is one of the powers woman have. It only becomes stronger with time.
Have you ever tried it on a woman? It doesn't work. EVER.
True.
But grandmothers and GREAT grandmothers have secret arsenals that could rend an entire family for up to 5 generations. o_O
On DD the biggest Know-it-alls are Ozoneocean, Bravo1102 and Isukun. :)

Don't know if there are anymore…? We're the biggest, baddest triumvirate.
-Feels left out-

:(
I can't say I didn't think of you PP, but you're only a stick-in-the-mud for certain specific things (eg Vikings anyone?), aside from those triggers you do actually listen to what other people say more often than not.
At least it seems that way to me.
-You're a know-it-all that you can actually have a real debate with like; will concede, will compromise etc. not just pretend to like me and the others. :3

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Be more pretentious and uncompromising. Got it.

Thanks for the tip.

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On DD the biggest Know-it-alls are Ozoneocean, Bravo1102 and Isukun. :)

Don't know if there are anymore…? We're the biggest, baddest triumvirate.
-Feels left out-

:(

Oh, Product. imo, you're definitely a know-it-all, but what you do that's different is to distinguish between facts (and then cite sources) versus personal opinion. For many others, that line blurs.

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Be more pretentious and uncompromising. Got it.
Uncompromising yes, pretentious no. If your case is propped up by pretension, you'll fail on the first reply. "Pretension" is usually just an accusation levelled BY pretentious people against others they can't beat because they can't beat them because all they have is pretension ^_^

That was a know-it-all answer.

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This is it.

People have mostly misunderstood this idea, but you get it.
(Quoted from here).
That particular comment also irked me, to be honest I thought this thread was going to about ozone, no lie.

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That particular comment also irked me, to be honest I thought this thread was going to about ozone, no lie.
Well that thread was about a discussion that Shadowmyst had directly with me and Skool… so as she was talking to Skool and I at the time she actually said those things I sort of thought I had a pretty decent idea about what she meant. First hand and all that. ^_^

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I'm an extreme goddamn know-it-all when it comes to things related to liquors or mixology (yes, that's a thing). i can't stand idly by and see someone rant about dumb alcohol related myths (like how it 'warms up your body'). I kind of HAVE to know what i'm talking about though.

As for other know-it-alls, I don't think i know any IRL.

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