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In English despite all the borrowings and the largest apparent vocabulary it is still stuck with only one word for "love" It means all permutations from sex to the platonic bondings of friendship.
Yeah, English has a lot of vocabulary, but so many languages have much better nuance than English, in my opinion. The best you can do with it is vary the context- "I love you", "I'm in love with you", I have love for you", etc. to shift the meaning slightly- but unless you search for extraordinarily obscure or archaid words (which no one will understand anyway) you're still stuck with "love", a word that's got so many assigned meanings and connotations, and so much baggage.

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I'm so lonely.

But anyways, a lot of words have changed meaning over the years as languages and cultures evolve. If love no longer has any potency, I wonder what we'll be saying in 20 years.

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I wonder what we'll be saying in 20 years.

Maybe we should make some words up now, so we're ready?

I nominate brotoflatron. That's a great word.

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infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.

Hakoshen
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I nominate brotoflatron.

I second this motion. All in favor?

Hakoshen: Aye.

All opposed?

*silence*

The ayes have it. The new varnacular for expressing affections is brotoflatron.

And, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, I brotoflatron you all ;)

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whereas i'm largely apathetic to this whole matter.

brotoflatron? sounds kinky. and involving motorized rubber implements.

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There may not be swearwords in Japan but it's still quite possible to say rude things to someone.
There would have to be. The so called "swear words" in English are just words for sex and genitals, mostly. They're not even swear words if you use them in the right context. The religious stuff isn't rude in itself so much as very old fashioned social conventions.

I sure that if you looked at the Japanese language carefully enough it'd turn out more similar in some ways. I mean, can you describe someone in terms of male or female genitalia, excrement, or a particular sexual act and have them accept that politely? -even if words don't carry a stigma in of themselves, that doesn't mater so much as meaning and context because the so called "swear words" in English aren't rude themselves, it's just current local, cultural attitudes that make them so.

And a lot of the prohibitions against saying religious words came from the fact that they're part of actual curses, like "Damn", "God", or "hell", in the more full, archaic forms they'd be something like "May God damn you and all your family to eternal punishment in the fires of Hell!".
Would it really be acceptable to voice analogous Buddhist or Shinto caures at someone in Japanese?

I was being sarcastic. I know the Japanese language well enough to know that there are insults that would be equivalent. Swear words generally aren't much more than words we consider rude, so naturally calling someone something rude is by an extension a general equivalent of swearing at them. Maybe not as severely as telling them to go fuck themselves, but referring to someone as a pig's backside can still be taken as an insulting curse.

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Ooh
I feel brotoflatron, I feel brotoflatron
I feel brotoflatron, I feel brotoflatron
I feel brotoflatron
That was going to be an example of why it wouldn't work, but the more I look at it…

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here in america, we're gonna have to shorten the word tho. brotoflatron is just too long for our lazy ADD minds….hows about…..brofla….it works

brofla: V; english (american) origins; brotoflatron english (GB ) meaning: 1. to feel deep affection for. 2. to care for 3.to love (archaic)
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i brofla my british counterparts, who like to speak at length with words similar to ours, such as brotoflatron.

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Love can be defined as many things it can also be used to trick people… ever see someone turn red and confused trying to figure what to say after what you said LOL so funny.

No i have not done that to anybody if I did then the jokes on me when I try to figure away to say I was joking around. >_<

Love will be Love no matter what form it is… and I love cake… definitly love cake.

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Have you ever said "I love you" by mistake or to someone you didn't mean it to? Once I was talking on the phone to a friend of mine, and since my parents are usually the only people who phone me, when she said bye I accidentally responded with "K bye, love you." Then realized what I had said and was like "Wait! I didn't mean to say that! I usually only talk to my family on the phone and I always say bye love you to them I mean I like you but I don't love you I mean you're a good friend but…um yeah! Okay bye!"

Edit: To fully understand this story I think you need to know that I'm incredibly awkward on the phone to begin with, and this wasn't a friend who I was really close with.

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"Wait! I didn't mean to say that! I usually only talk to my family on the phone and I always say bye love you to them I mean I like you but I don't love you I mean you're a good friend but…um yeah! Okay bye!"
That's hillarious :)

Actually, while I do indeed love cake, and will prove that by eating it for my lunch again when I've finished typing this, I wouldn't tell it that. And those thress words aren't something I say to other people either.

It just feels WEIRD!

… although "I love you too" is fine.

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I say we bring back that wonderous term "grok" (as in I grok Spock, but originating in Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land.)

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It really pisses me off when people throw the word love about to mean lesser emotions like lust and limerince. It makes it harder for others to take you seriously when you're actually in it.

Especially when you've got the social stigmas of age and gender against you.

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It really pisses me off when people throw the word love about to mean lesser emotions like lust and limerince. It makes it harder for others to take you seriously when you're actually in it.

I feel like it's pretty easy to distinguish when your saying it jokingly or half heartedly and when you're saying it because you're actually in love. Context and tone of voice are what really matter!!!

(I merely say this coz I'm the type of person that jumps up and down and says "I love you!" to someone if they really did something awesome for me).

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I nominate brotoflatron.

I second this motion. All in favor?

Hakoshen: Aye.

All opposed?

*silence*

The ayes have it. The new varnacular for expressing affections is brotoflatron.

And, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, I brotoflatron you all ;)

I ANTI-brotoflatron you,sucker!

Hakoshen
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I nominate brotoflatron.

I second this motion. All in favor?

Hakoshen: Aye.

All opposed?

*silence*

The ayes have it. The new varnacular for expressing affections is brotoflatron.

And, in keeping with the spirit of the thread, I brotoflatron you all ;)

I ANTI-brotoflatron you,sucker!

:(

Faliat
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I feel like it's pretty easy to distinguish when your saying it jokingly or half heartedly and when you're saying it because you're actually in love. Context and tone of voice are what really matter!!!
Lots of people get confused between limerince and love. And I've met my fair share of people who think lust is love. And if you don't know anyone who's actually been in love it's kinda hard to tell them all apart.

And there's loads of people that think just because you're under 25 you automatically only feel puppy love.

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Lots of people get confused between limerince and love. And I've met my fair share of people who think lust is love. And if you don't know anyone who's actually been in love it's kinda hard to tell them all apart.

And there's loads of people that think just because you're under 25 you automatically only feel puppy love.

So basically in the end the problem isn't really that people are saying "I love you" but instead are saying "I'm in love" too much. Love is weird. People always say that they're confusing puppy love or lust with love, but what is real love? How do you know if you're really in love???

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Well, there are many different kinds of brofla after all, that basically boil down to three types:

Romantic brofla - High passion, low longevity. Think of those romantic movies and whatnot. Not enough time to really commit to someone, but there's a load of passion. Or lust, so to speak.

Long term brofla - Medium passion, medium longevity. Likely to be less of a spark, and more trouble down the line, but they stick together for their own reasons.

Companionship brofla -Low passion, high longevity. This is more of what you'd say old people feel. The fire might all be gone, but they have each other, and that's what matters to them.


So saying you brofla someone is one thing. It could mean a lot, it could mean a little. As for people denouncing your brofla just because of your age, well that's unfortunate. Then again, when you're young most people older than you don't respect what you feel all that much to begin with.

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As for people denouncing your brofla just because of your age, well that's unfortunate. Then again, when you're young most people older than you don't respect what you feel all that much to begin with.

I actually have a really hard time believing people my age when they say they're in love with their boyfriend/girlfriend. I'm not really sure why.

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Have you ever said "I love you" by mistake or to someone you didn't mean it to? Once I was talking on the phone to a friend of mine, and since my parents are usually the only people who phone me, when she said bye I accidentally responded with "K bye, love you." Then realized what I had said and was like "Wait! I didn't mean to say that! I usually only talk to my family on the phone and I always say bye love you to them I mean I like you but I don't love you I mean you're a good friend but…um yeah! Okay bye!"

Edit: To fully understand this story I think you need to know that I'm incredibly awkward on the phone to begin with, and this wasn't a friend who I was really close with.

You know what's even weirder?

I was talking to my mom's friend on the phone, telling her that my mom wasn't here at the time. And for some reason, before I hung up, I was like, "Love youuuu," and about 3 seconds after I hung up, I felt a little dead inside ;_;

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I was like, "Love youuuu," and about 3 seconds after I hung up, I felt a little dead inside ;_;

I agree, after I accidentally say it I always feel a little dead inside… It's weird because they're just words.

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So basically in the end the problem isn't really that people are saying "I love you" but instead are saying "I'm in love" too much. Love is weird. People always say that they're confusing puppy love or lust with love, but what is real love? How do you know if you're really in love???
I reckon still spending entire days crying remembering the fact you'll never see them do any more of the little things they used to do three years on after they left your life is a sure sign. Daft little things. But they're missed all the same.

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