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He could be just a regular mafia…but then again isn't it one of the team leaders ability to hide what he really is?

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I can indeed confirm it - The rat told me Monkey is a regular mafioso. Something about tylenol and mouthwash as well.

And yes, the rat also asked for my role.

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TFGM but if you are the lead agent…wouldn't you show up as a regular mafia?
So the check on you doesn't really prove much.
If crotcy shows up as mafioso as well then we are just back to square one, as all we know is that either of you might be guilty.
(the agents would have to be pretty dumb to put someone other then their leader up for election)

One reason mafia is like real life is that all elected officials should be viewed with suspicion (I say that every game and every game no one listens!)

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Hak you keep your explosive diarrhea out of this!

*takes milk away from Hak*

Well if TFGM, aghammer and crotcy all say waff, I suppose he gets my vote to lynch, since there is no other evidence to go on right now.
(which is a shame because I really wanted rid of humourman, if anyone can cook up evidence against humorman I would appreciate it. Possibly involving graphs?)

Aghammer- I love how they let the outlaw go so he can chase the chicken with them!


HEY! Give my milk back! That's IT! I challenge you to a duel for all of Europe, a-la Empire total war! The loser is an agent and is hanged! What's that? You lose! Rematch? You lose again! Agent!

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AWESOME PICTURE
Why did that not load last time I was reading page 14!? Hot damn, you're the best former mafia-deputy who improbably lives through multiple incidents ever! <3

Given the present circumstances, are we lynching waff this round? Since there are no clues, there's nothing for me to analyze. And even if no one votes, it would still be possible for one chaotic person, troll, or agent to ruin that plan, so I don't think it would be a functional alternative in practice. :\

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I can indeed confirm it - The rat told me Monkey is a regular mafioso. Something about tylenol and mouthwash as well.

And yes, the rat also asked for my role.
According to Crocty he too is a regular mafioso! One of us has to be the leader. Crocty declair double lynch and let them kill us both. Then they will see that I was right about you!

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I'm not going to lynch myself, that would be dumb!

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TFGM but if you are the lead agent…wouldn't you show up as a regular mafia?
So the check on you doesn't really prove much.
If crotcy shows up as mafioso as well then we are just back to square one, as all we know is that either of you might be guilty.
(the agents would have to be pretty dumb to put someone other then their leader up for election)

One reason mafia is like real life is that all elected officials should be viewed with suspicion (I say that every game and every game no one listens!)
I was thinking the same thing. I think though that the reason why everyone keeps going to the mayor…godfather is because he's protected by bodyguards. Since he's protected he can be the voice of the people who need to stay hidden. People like the param..doctors and the detec…rat.

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Unless the rat is not the Rat and there's no way to be sure.

Soooo, Hark, my friend, if I read you correctly, you are saying we should kill em both off and elect some sucker that really doesn't want to be godfather? Just checking.

And TFGM, you agree? Doh.

actually, we have evidence that TFGM is NOT an agent between what the so-called Rat said… go back and look.

I can indeed confirm it - The rat told me Monkey is a regular mafioso. Something about tylenol and mouthwash as well.

And yes, the rat also asked for my role.

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I swear, by the time I get used to using the different names, it'll be time for normal, or different themed mafia!

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Anyone who the rat says is innocent should be lynched. The rat always checks out the godfather, and the end result always draws away suspicion!

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Aghammer I'm all for a bit of anarchy in the system!
Power to the people!
Lets wreck the establishment!
etc

bad guys always have a candidate, so just kill the winner and the runner up and you are bound to kill their leader.
Problem solved!

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Why is this thread moving so fast suddenly?

Ultimately, the only thing that is unequivocally proven, if this is truly information from the rat (I would surmise it is much too risky to fake), is that ONE of them HAS to be innocent. It doesn't necessarily mean that either is guilty, but it DOES mean that one is innocent.

That's actually the only thing provable if you consider the results logically. o_O You know that AT LEAST there is one trustworthy person.

…I'm going stir-crazy without clues, y'all. I'm all sitting here waiting to tear 'em apart, it's like friggin' Christmas, and then the narrative shows up and there is NOTHING. Christmas is ruined! >_<

edit because I said the same damn thing twice for some reason -_-;

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Actually, we have had people vote to lynch themselves… always makes me laugh. I think Prank did it last game and I think Hark did it in one of the previous games.

If you want to lynch yourself I'll vote with you my friend (I'm here for you).

I'm not going to lynch myself, that would be dumb!

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See? This is why I didn't want to tell everyone about the rat's results. There's only one way to solve this now.

[Jerry Springer enters stage]

CHAIR FIGHT. D:<

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Unless the rat is not the Rat and there's no way to be sure.
Wait. If the Rat is fake then he's the luckiest Rat around. We can be sure that at least either Crocty or Monkey has to be clean. If both were agent's we wouldn't be having the situation we're faced with now. If one is a mafia and the rat is a pretend then he simply GUESSED that the other guy was a normal mafia and not a special role.

On top of that if both of them happens to be normal mafia and the "rat" is a fake then that means that the rat GUESSED TWICE and was correct both times. That's an awfully risky thing to pull for a charade that can easily collapse on you as soon as the real rat starts to show up.

No I think that the Rat is legit and he must have checked out both Crocty and Monkey. That means that they're either both clean or that one of them is the agent leader. Statistically it's unlikely since Crocty's been mafia 3 times already and Monkey was the godfather last time.

Edit: Oh I see that me and Ochitsukanai are on the same wavelength.

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TFGM is MAFIA although I don't know that Crocty is an Agent. We gotta kill someone… Waff is at the top of the list right now :)

Why is this thread moving so fast suddenly?

Ultimately, the only thing that is unequivocally proven, if this is truly information from the rat (I would surmise it is much too risky to fake), is that ONE of them HAS to be innocent. It doesn't necessarily mean that either is guilty, but it DOES mean that one is innocent.

That's actually the only thing provable if you consider the results logically. o_O You know that AT LEAST there is one trustworthy person.

…I'm going stir-crazy without clues, y'all. I'm all sitting here waiting to tear 'em apart, it's like friggin' Christmas, and then the narrative shows up and there is NOTHING. Christmas is ruined! >_<

edit because I said the same damn thing twice for some reason -_-;

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TFGM is MAFIA although I don't know that Crocty is an Agent. We gotta kill someone… Waff is at the top of the list right now :)
Why are you so certain that Monkey is clean? Unless… your an agent, covering for him!

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Well whats with this business of tylenol and mouthwash? If they are the rat is this a potential clue? And if they aren't the rat and are just trying to frame somebody should we work backwards from there too?

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Are you an Ochi ALT?!?!?

And look back through the first few pages… I have a reason to trust that TFGM is Mafia and not the crazy offer of fan art, etc. :) I will not link to that page cause I like not being dead.

Have the rat check out me man…. I am 100% pure-blood mafia!

Edit: Oh I see that me and Ochitsukanai are on the same wavelength.

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Have the rat check out me man…. I am 100% pure-blood mafia!
Don't we need to wait until next day or something?

Edit: Oh right. It's also been used twice.

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TFGM is MAFIA although I don't know that Crocty is an Agent. We gotta kill someone… Waff is at the top of the list right now :)
How can you know that for certain, Aghammer? The rat clearly contacted Crocty first judging by the order of events, but from the start you were on Monkey's side, which indicates that in all likelihood you are not the rat. That makes your vehement support of him even more weird, especially since his reasoning was simply that you two are friends - that definitely does not explain this behavior at all.

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We can't check any more roles, but I trust Aghammer anyway.

I'm not sure why he trusts Monkey, though.

Incidentally, anyone have an 18-sided die?

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