I looked serously at wevot, uploaded 6 pages there. but since my comic has like 500 odd pages.. I said no. I am not going to upload them all one by one, I am going to pretend I never thought about doing that.
When I came to Drunk Duck I was fortunate that my comic was only 20 odd pages long. so uploading 20 pages using the uploader was OK. Had I arrived at Drunkduck now with 500 under my belt, I would NOT join and upload them unless there was a FTP option
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The Duck PREVIEW Site is now Live!
Wasn't the big change supposed to be yesterday(Weds)? If so, I love the new site design… they just need to get rid of that annoying 'Check out the Preview Edition' banner :-)
Seriously, you can google WEvolt… you can see several people talking about how nice and clean it was before Wowio, and how Wowio added all those side links and banners as soon as they took over. I'm sure the former owners are happy to count their cash and pat Wowio on the back, but Wowio DID ruin WEvolt (the back-patting sounds familiar, doesn't it?).
No one is happy. Does Wowio honestly realize that? Do they live in such a tight corporate bubble that they can't see the truth? I think they know… and they don't care. At all. Not at all.
So, the site will go live with no changes (oh my, we just didn't have time to make changes! Bull… the colors could have been changed in less than an hour. And not adding rawhtml? All other free webcomics sites except those owned by Wowio have that bit of code included)… all that 'suggestions' stuff was just a game… same colors, same 'no html', same 'no ads'… same 'accept our huge ads all over your pages'… why was the ruse of asking for suggestions even started? To placate some… to make us think they were listening. They had the entire thing planned, as I said before, chiseled out in stone, and by god, that's the way Drunk Duck is going to be. Not a single suggestion accepted, none. You all wasted your time (and very valuable time, you could have been drawing instead of filling out forms).
Oh, and a universal login? That's new… so, Wowio can follow you all over the net and plaster ads they think you'll click on. The bright thing (at least until the png popup codes start working) is to browse all wowio sites with ad blocker going full strength… but even then they'll track you with cookies… gee, you read 10 pages of a comic on WEvolt, but only 3 on DD? Let's make DD more like Wevolt! And they paid a lot more for WEvolt than they did DrunkDuck.
DD is ruined, we all know that, just the number of complaints and concerns shows that to anyone not on Wowio's payroll. It's not about saving DD, it's about what we can do to make another webcomics site we can all use, with the same good people here.
And I fear the admins here are being led down a path, too… do you not know that Wowio is receiving dozens of applications from college-trained website administrators? You'll soon hear the 'we need to make a clean start' speech. You think it won't happen? You thought they were listening to our suggestions and complaints…
DD is ruined, we all know that, just the number of complaints and concerns shows that to anyone not on Wowio's payroll. It's not about saving DD, it's about what we can do to make another webcomics site we can all use, with the same good people here.
To my knowledge, nobody is proposing to create a new webcomic host, unless you're working on something Tim?
There are other hosts out there and you should've had yourself covered in that respect by now; if not when Wowio started showing their hand, then as soon as you found out Skool and Ozone had taken the king's Shilling. ;O
Tim, could you speak in any bigger generalisations? Jesus, calm down dude.
As I see it, this is their business and if they mess it up, they'll lose money. They are going to do what's best for them and that's all there is to it. You've already played your hand by removing all your material, yet you keep coming back as the 'voice of doom'. We know where you are coming from, yeah.
Wednesday… are we sure it was supposed to be this past Wednesday? :)
My dad was a programer, so I'm not terribly surprised by the delay. (I used to expect "five minutes" to equal an hour or two when I asked for help with homework and such when he was working out of our house.)
Oh, and Tim, how's that move to Comic Fury going?
Wednesday… are we sure it was supposed to be this past Wednesday? :)
I'm quite happy to have it delayed, really. It means the programmers are buying time to get that much more stuff in order before any data moves. I'll be mad as hell if we get another "massive change on Friday, radio silence til Monday" though.
And if Wowio is foolish enough to get rid of its cheap, dedicated, networked, beloved admins, then I'll be happy to leave because I won't like where it's going. :]
Honestly, I'm not making the call until I have some hard evidence one way or the other. I just hope that they'll reintroduce the HTML editing soon. Speaking of which, couldn't they have a malware scanner sniffing any HTML, images, or other files being uploaded? I know it's not foolproof, but then again, what is when dealing with computers. :/
1) I want to back up my comics… just in case… but the archives thingy leads me to a page with random type!By the way, while doing a backup of your comic you might encounter some problems using the "archive comic" feature of the comic controls if you are using Firefox (I'm not exactly sure why). If you have problems using that, switch to Internet Explorer (or copy and paste the backup file link in it) or use a download manager like FlashGet for example. The file downloaded is a TAR.GZ which is a zipped file. If you can't open it try using Winrar (40 day trial) or 7zip.
also, be sure to use the url ending in "tar.gz" and not the one you get by clicking "copy link location"
When I right click and choose save as it tries to save it as a PHP and NEVER downloads
I know, you don't have to click "save as", you have to copy the "tar.gz" link manually (by selecting it, edit > copy or ctrl c) and paste that text into either internet explorer address bar or a file download tool.
The text you paste then should look something like:
"http://www.drunkduck.com/backups/blablablablablabla.tar.gz"
I tried downloading my archive twice using IE8 on a friend's computer and it didn't work either time-
First it gave me that text link like Locoma showed: http://www.drunkduck.com/backups/blablablablablabla.tar.gz
But when I right clicked on it and did "save as" it wanted to save it as some dumb HTML named file. Even when I copied and pasted that same exact file name with the extension ending in ".tar.gz" it STILL appended ".HTML" on the end what it had finished downloading, and the only way to get rid of that was to change the folder viewing preferences to display file extensions.
But even when I made SURE it ended in ".tar.gz" it STILL wouldn't open! WinRar said the file was missing it's index or archive or was corrupted or something. Happened both times. So I gave up.
Lucky for me I've got about a million of my own high quality backups, but I pity those who don't.
Is it just me, or have the featured comic titles lately been a reflection of the mood of our admins? Nocturne 21 and Death Comes Knocking are worthy features, but I can't help think the downbeat titles presage their fears of the upcoming changes to the detoxing Duck!
;-)
Just giving a heads up. It was just mentioned on DD's twitter feed that the page layout and link tools are up for testing at the preview site. So if you're reading this and haven't tried the tools, GO GO GO and then give them your feedback on GetSatisfaction.
Link to the news post: http://preview.drunkduck.com/news/2011/may/12/comic-page-layoutlinks-tools-and-final-bug-testing-on-the-duck-preview-site/
I'm gonna go fool with them myself but haven't even glanced at them yet.
edit: Arrrgh. They're super simple. I don't know what I was expecting– this is like those MySpace layout generators that were everywhere way-back-when.
Just giving a heads up. It was just mentioned on DD's twitter feed that the page layout and link tools are up for testing at the preview site. So if you're reading this and haven't tried the tools, GO GO GO and then give them your feedback on GetSatisfaction.
Link to the news post: http://preview.drunkduck.com/news/2011/may/12/comic-page-layoutlinks-tools-and-final-bug-testing-on-the-duck-preview-site/
I'm gonna go fool with them myself but haven't even glanced at them yet.
edit: Arrrgh. They're super simple. I don't know what I was expecting– this is like those MySpace layout generators that were everywhere way-back-when.
Well they said on the quackcast that they'd only have some but not all of the customization tools ready by the time the site changeover took place, and that they'd be rolling them out after the new site went live, so this may not be the final version of what we get (I'm starting to have my doubts, though, to be honest, but I'm trying to remain optimistic).
Although to be honest, to someone with no skill at web-design or html (like me), even these tools, somewhat rudimentary though they may be, will still probably make things a lot simpler. I think one of the important things is that we now know that we will at least have the capacity to set up link and banner exchanges by the time the site changes over, which would have severely crippled this community otherwise.
Well they said on the quackcast that they'd only have some but not all of the customization tools ready by the time the site changeover took place, and that they'd be rolling them out after the new site went live, so this may not be the final version of what we get (I'm starting to have my doubts, though, to be honest, but I'm trying to remain optimistic).
Although to be honest, to someone with no skill at web-design or html (like me), even these tools, somewhat rudimentary though they may be, will still probably make things a lot simpler. I think one of the important things is that we now know that we will at least have the capacity to set up link and banner exchanges by the time the site changes over, which would have severely crippled this community otherwise.
I heard that Quackcast, too. Figured they'd have something else added there eventually– just don't have any idea what (because I really don't know enough about HTML to know what's missing now anyways.) I'm pretty much in the same boat as you.
(And I will not miss this slowness. At all. I'll put up with the snotbubble Duck if it's a fast snotbubble Duck.)
So yeah. Banners, buttons and links FTW.
This. I like Drunk Duck a lot. Modest Medusa has done really well here, and I really appreciate the support of this community. I want to stay here for a long, long time, but…
The prospect of losing PW ads, losing custom HTML, losing links and banners… this is all important stuff to me. I'm more than willing to give the new site a chance, but these functions absolutely need to be implemented for me to keep Modest Medusa on this site.
Jake
I've just seen the latest post about the new site. See, push hard enough, you get concessions. If everyone had just shut up, you'd have another WEvolt here. BUT, enough of you spoke out that they had to give in… they gave you editable sites and banners, etc. NONE of this was in the works, NONE. It's only because enough of you guys spoke out the last week (which is why the proposed Tues-Weds switchover didn't take place) they had to go back and add the things you demanded. Well done, DD artists, well-done.
Oh, I also see where a few are still attacking me… not sure why, just got to check when they joined, I guess… but still, the majority of you fought for what you believed in and you won. Good job! We didn't get everything, but we got editable sites with our own banners. And I think we all showed Wowio that we couldn't be pushed around quite as easily as they thought.
I knew you guys would eventually stand up and fight, even if your leaders were huddled in the bushes making white flags.
I've just seen the latest post about the new site. See, push hard enough, you get concessions. If everyone had just shut up, you'd have another WEvolt here. BUT, enough of you spoke out that they had to give in… they gave you editable sites and banners, etc. NONE of this was in the works, NONE. It's only because enough of you guys spoke out the last week (which is why the proposed Tues-Weds switchover didn't take place)
I think some of these things WERE in the works, and have been for a while. If they weren't in the works, it's probably more about them not knowing what we needed rather than just flat out denying us things.
As far as I know the proposed Tues-Weds switchover was still "on schedule" even after all the speaking up. I don't think we made them delay that; they're just trying not to repeat what happened the last time they tried switching to a new site.
I'm not trying to attack you but I think you're being a bit presumptuous and harsh about Wowio. We didn't get "concessions" by attacking Lawrence and the crew involved– we got them by explaining what we needed and why we need those things.
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