Thread "The Rapture." in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 2:05AM, May. 23, 2011

lol! Now that's a know it all. :)

(analogies and metaphors are different things Bravo, neither describe the different intents behind the use of the word "world". Its use is more comparable to the use of the word "we": the meaning is context sensitive, not metaphorical or analogous- look here and don't forget to expand the definitions)

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I don't think this was ever a serious thing or about predictions or readings to begin with; if it's true that Harold Camping (the guy behind this stunt), really has gone missing with all that money, then it's just the same old story of yet another ultra-rightwing fundamentalist evangelical conman.

At least this guy wasn't one of the crazy mass-murdering types, just the usual ordinary conman like all the rest.

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Hold the phone… Well he's pretty much directly responsible for this and I don't know how many other similar instances, not to mention all the money wasted by his believers and the ruining of their lives because of it:

(woman tried to kill herself and murder her two daughters because she didn't want them facing the trials of the end of the world)

Posted at 8:05AM, May. 23, 2011

Revelation was about the First Century A.D. Roman Empire

Oh yeah?

Revelation 19:19
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

- kings of the earth? Roman empire had an emperor. Not a king. Why "kings of the earth" and not "kings of Rome?"

Revelation 13:16-17
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

- Reeks of New World Order / Police State / Globalism /whateveryouwannacallit to me. You know, I have a friend who is a cripple. He just got a letter from the government trying to sell him on getting himself chipped.

Revelation 17:5-6
And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

- Obviously in reference to the Roman Catholic Church. Catholic Church = Mystery Babylon. Pope's mitre hat is the symbol of Dagon… one of the gods in Babylon. Catholic Church is not Christian. Catholic Church = Mystery Babylon The Catholic Church wasnt around during the 1st century AD.

Posted at 8:05AM, May. 23, 2011

Revelation was about the First Century A.D. Roman Empire

Oh yeah?

Revelation 19:19
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

- kings of the earth? Roman empire had an emperor. Not a king. Why "kings of the earth" and not "kings of Rome?"

The Beast is the Roman Emperor and Empire. John didn't name the Empire but used code words or numbers. Protest literature has done that for thousands of years. Kings of the earth refers to the numerous kings who ruled in the world during the Roman Empire. The nations who coexisted with the Romans Empire all had kings many of who were vassals of the Roman Empire.

It's about First-second Century Rome and the Catholic Church already existed. Acts of the Apostoles and Paul's letters set that up. It wasn't properly Catholic (Universal that wasn't until Niccea) but the Church had bishops and the like going back to Paul. Remember also the apparatus that rules Holy Mother Church was built to mirror the secular government of the Roman Empire from the beginning so of course there are similarities between Rome and the Catholic Church.

If you read Revelation as coming out of the horrible world wide upheaval that accompanied the First-Second Century AD Roman Empire it still says the same things and has much the same meaning but is only talking about events that have come and gone.

Posted at 8:05AM, May. 23, 2011

"The whole world" can mean all of planet earth, or it can mean all the people on earth, of it can mean all the people who happen to think the same way you do "duh, the whole world knows that!"… It's just one of those nice, big, open words :)

Which is why every end of the world prediction is ALWAYS open to interpretation. Just like the bible.

Plus, right now we can still call it THE world. Until we discover another planet inhabited by aliens in which case we'll be "just Another world." ;)

We know there are other moons and we know that our sun is a star and that there are many others out there (We can even see them). But we still call Luna and Sol "The Moon" and "The Sun".

Posted at 11:05PM, May. 23, 2011

Apparently it's still on. They've just moved the date back until October.

Woo hoo! I thought I'd missed it!

Posted at 12:05AM, May. 24, 2011

We know there are other moons and we know that our sun is a star and that there are many others out there (We can even see them). But we still call Luna and Sol "The Moon" and "The Sun".

Well, sorry to get technical here, but "moons" are more often referred to as satellites anyway.

But yeah, I guess that's why we started naming these other stars/moons after strange things because "The X" was already taken!

Posted at 1:05AM, May. 24, 2011

Apparently it's still on. They've just moved the date back until October.

Woo hoo! I thought I'd missed it!

The Rapture was 6pm May 21. The Tribulation is supposed to last until October where those remaining go through the worst of the worst of the worst until the Anti-Christ does battle and everybody dies and the world is reduced to a charred cinder that the Messiah will remake into a Paradise for those previously Raptured. The world doesn't actually end, it is remade. People lose sight of that when looking at End Times prophecy. Not saved? It's the end of your world. But there's always the saved. And some writings say that eventually even the Anti-Christ will be forgiven after a 1000 years in a buring pit and join Christ in the Paradise of the remade world.

But wait back-pedalling- it was a spiritual Judgement Day and not an actual Rapture just like it was in 1844. Miller used the exact same excuse. But the end is coming in October and we are all under spiritual Judgement by the returned Messiah who is here in spirit no in physical flesh. Just like said in 1844.

Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me. Fooled three times? You must be an evangelical Christian waiting for the next prophecised End Time.

But ever since the Second Great Awakening and especially after the upsurge of Evangelical Christianity the majority of Christians have believed that they live in the End Times.

Posted at 3:05AM, May. 24, 2011

Actually bravo, if you're gonna bring up millennialism (which I think you are), people first did that over 1000 years ago in the lead up to the first millennium AD… All sorts of mad cults and schisms spurted out all over the place. They did the "free love" thing long before hippies existed, socialism, communism, all sorts of stuff. The fallout from that lasted for about 200 years or more in various forms.
They really did think they were living through "the end of times" then and had far more cause to do so than us :(

I learned about it from a series of clever art history lecturers over the years… But yoy can get a god sense of the fell of it by reading Umberto Ecco's Name of the Rose.

Posted at 4:05AM, May. 24, 2011

Poor Osama doesn't get to be labeled as the Anti-Christ. Dude you got killed a few months too early.

Well, there's always Obama! He wasn't born in Hawaii, he was born in BABYLON!

Posted at 2:05AM, May. 25, 2011

Poor Osama doesn't get to be labeled as the Anti-Christ. Dude you got killed a few months too early.

Well, there's always Obama! He wasn't born in Hawaii, he was born in BABYLON!

I still insist it's Ronald Wilson Reagan. His reach extends beyond the grave.

As for born in Babylon; Saddam Hussein had people going for a long time. He also fit Nostradamus' depiction of the third Anti-Christ with his turban/beret.

Watch the movie with Orson Welles The Man who Saw Tomorrow and the depiction of the Third Anti-Christ is very close to Saddam. 0_0

Posted at 12:05AM, May. 26, 2011

And welcome to the Great Disappointment II.

I was reading about this on the day before the supposed expiration date of humanity. I'd call it an Epic Fail, now, considering how much has changed in the last 160 years and whatnot. …. this has to be on the wikipedia someplace! I oughta do it!

But anyways, I'll be honest. He had me scared for awhile. But at the same thing, I dunno, what irked me more than anything else was how quickly the news and media caught on. I didn't -think- it was going to happen, but everywhere I visited online had at least four to six topics on the Rapture.

I doubt the end is coming, but if it does, I'm gonna take the long drive and make Disneyland my fortress of operations! Y'all can come with!

Posted at 7:05AM, May. 26, 2011

…just call the fire deptartment. we got dis shit.