lol @ Christainiainitee
My psychiatrist is incredibly helpful. Cleared those suicidal tendencies right up.
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Vivid Dream I had about a Shooting Rampage...
ALSO GASP I was not brought up with a strong Catholic influence!
Its another misunderstanding.
A Catholic/Christian faith is not an absolute necessity to be sane enough not to do a shooting rampage.
There has to be a MOTIVATION or DETRIMENTS not to do it.
Things like:
1) Fear of the Law.
2) Having family and/or friends who are willing to support you.
3) Knowing its the right thing to do. I've seen the atheist argument of 'you dont need a God or religion to know its the right thing to do'.
4) Fear and Love of the Lord and fear of eternal damnation.
All of these deterrents have to be bypassed for a person to be able to have a motivation to do such a horrible thing.
The first 3 of those things were already bypassed in my case. I didnt care about going to jail or criminal records, I had a shit family and nobody I really know who will support me through this or give me a reason to live. And how will your judgement of right and wrong function properly under extreme pressure?
So basically I can say that it was the Lord who prevented me from doing it. Until a point where my sanity took over and now I have 3 or those 4 things already in place.
I'm not trying to 'look cool' or be an attention whore or try to convert everyone to Christianity.
I'd just like to share insight into this thought process. Hope I cleared this up.
lol @ Christainiainitee
My psychiatrist is incredibly helpful. Cleared those suicidal tendencies right up.
If that was the case I respect it.
But in my case, God has succeeded where science has failed. You should respect that too.
4) Fear and Love of the Lord and fear of eternal damnation.
Seriously, that was your only reason for not going on a killing rampage? Not because God taught you the futility of violence, or to respect they neighbor, etc., but simply out of fear of some sort of "Bogeyman" God that will come out of the closet and damn your monkey ass to Hell?
I've always hated the "Do what our Deity says because he'll kick your ass if you don't" style of religion, be it Christian, pagan, etc.. I think a better use of religion is to instill people to do the right thing simply because it is right, and not just because they'll get in trouble for misbehaving.
4) Fear and Love of the Lord and fear of eternal damnation.
Seriously, that was your only reason for not going on a killing rampage? Not because God taught you the futility of violence, or to respect they neighbor, etc., but simply out of fear of some sort of "Bogeyman" God that will come out of the closet and damn your monkey ass to Hell?
I've always hated the "Do what our Deity says because he'll kick your ass if you don't" style of religion, be it Christian, pagan, etc.. I think a better use of religion is to instill people to do the right thing simply because it is right, and not just because they'll get in trouble for misbehaving.
One of the core values of Flying Spaghetti Monster-ism is that the Flying Spaghetti Monster could give a shit less. Flying Spaghetti Monster won't punish you for anything.
However, Flying Spaghetti Monster clergymen teach that people should be good anyway, because really, otherwise they'd be a bunch of dicks.
It's Pastafarianism and it's stupid.
Haha no. Flying Spaghetti Monster-ism teaches a completely different set of values than Pastafarianism. Pastafarians believe in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. We have a completely different set of religious literature, called The Book of Great Meatballs. Also, we follow the Spaghetti Pope.
Completely different.
So kyupol, if you were presented with undeniable evidence that god does not exist, would you go on a crime spree? You know because all except yours is worthless and you only don't massacre the nearest public place is because of some sort of punishment? That doesn't seem too moral to me.
Ok Ok. America is NOT religious.
I understand now America's reliance on science and stuff like that to solve issues. Everything from technical stuff to people's attitudes. I noticed a stronger belief in science than religion.
Science is not perfect. Psychiatry isnt. Psychiatrists have failed to solve my problem and could have possibly made shit worse for me.
I tell you what happened.
Psychiatrist prescribed me anti-depressant meds. Its called 'selexa'. It has this effect of making you unusually calm. As in you just wont get angry. It manipulates some chemicals in your brain in such a way that you just become so damn calm.
However that was only a quick fix. After being on it from 2004-2005 I noticed that I began to develop a thinking that made me dependent on the drugs. The magic pill to make my problems go away. I noticed that after prolonged period of not taking the meds, I still felt like fucking up again. The anger just stays there. The meds just suppressed it but the ROOT stays there. As if something is incomplete.
The cause of the problem is not some damn chemicals in the brain. But the thought pattern. To 'cure' thought pattern you need to find a philosophy (or combination) to cure that.
Its like you have a car. If something always becomes a problem in a car, the mechanic can fix it. But its up to the ENGINEER to fix the design flaw of that particular car.
Going back, one day, I was interviewed thoroughly by the psychiatrist. I told him a more detailed version of the stuff I believe about God.
Skipping through the blabla, I think I mentioned along the lines that I don't plan on getting involved in a relationship because it is too damn risky. Its the last priority and I have to focus more on career and further development of myself.
But… the guy IMMEDIATELY tried to give me bullshit ideas that I should try to get myself into a relationship to help solve my problems. He was insistent and adamant about it.
And then I decided I'd never see this guy again.
Look.
If I get a relationship and it fucks up, I get more crazier in the end. And the more I get crazier the more I need to see a psychiatrist. And further craziness due to a divorce especially in this sexist continent of the earth (sexist against the male gender), it will further aggravate and complicate problems. Maybe I'd get a drug problem or worse alcohol problem? To the benefit of the psychiatrist. And that whole 'mental health' industry.
When I plan things, it takes alot of back-planning. And possible scenarios to fallback on. I AM an organized person. No wonder my superiors in every place I worked at think good of me because I'm organized. I always have a backup plan in case the guy before me fails to meet his deadlines. Also in case of my absence I make sure the next person responsible wont have a hard time.
That includes the spectrum of so-called 'relationships'. If it fails, there is too much to risk. Too much of an investment to lose. The legal and health risks. Is too much for me.
Thats where I saw that 'psychiatrist' is not really there to help. He is looking after his own personal interest.
The solution to my problem lies in strength. And through God comes strength as well as through my own human effort.
Nasa Diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa (In God is mercy, in people are action)
That is why before you see a psychiatrist to help you give your quick fix to your problem, find something to raise your morale. It doesnt need to be 'God' if you are an atheist.
Oddly, though, a mod forcing LeFarce (or anyone, really) to not pick on you would, in fact, be a breech of freedom of speech. So I guess in that sense, sure, Drunkduck does repress freedom of speech, assuming that said speech is harassment of an individual. But then, the law also doesn't allow one to stand outside of a government building shouting racial slurs at passing minorities, and I'm pretty sure that's not considered loss of freedom of speech.That's true. DD isn't a free speech area. :)
It's mostly free, but in order to keep the place having a nice community vibe, open to ALL (not just the regulars), we have to get people to tone down the mischief. ;)
The thing is, Kyupol, you didn't say that you were avoiding a relationship because you didn't want one, you said you were avoiding a relationship because you were afraid that getting rejected will make you insane.
That is not a healthy response.
A healthy response is to man up, face your fears, and overcome them. Encouraging you to do so is not the mental help community's clever ruse to make you even crazier down the road so they can sell you more drugs.
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