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The thing is, Kyupol, you didn't say that you were avoiding a relationship because you didn't want one, you said you were avoiding a relationship because you were afraid that getting rejected will make you insane.

That is not a healthy response.

A healthy response is to man up, face your fears, and overcome them. Encouraging you to do so is not the mental help community's clever ruse to make you even crazier down the road so they can sell you more drugs.

dude, there is a difference between being brave and being stupid.

If ever I will seek a relationship I will not seek it in North America.

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I changed my mind, kyupol, go see a therapist.

Creating imaginary problems and blaming them on someone trying to help you will not solve your problems, pretending you don't need help will do more damage.

Those pills are not intended to cure you of your problems, they're supposed to keep you calm so you can get to the root of your problems. The only thing preventing those pills helping you is your unwillingness to dig, and instead blame others when you mistakes cause problems for you.

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lol I dont have problems. I'm perfectly sane. I can function properly. I maintain a job and I'm confident in my ability to climb up the income ladder. I can still do comics, I can still get out and chill. :)

To accuse me of being insane just because I say something that you dont agree with is kinda insane in itself. To sum it up, N. America is a country with sexist anti-male laws. And getting married (unless you are gay) in this part of the world is suicidally insane. Disagree with me on that but calling me insane because you disagree with me is just plain rude.


I guess this topic has been sidetracked a bit.


But back to the topic, if such dreams happen with consistent frequency I'd see a therapist (perhaps a different one). :)

Its not always consistent that could create a worrisome trend. I dreamt about other bad things too like falling off a building or getting killed. And weird stuff too.

Its not all bad stuff theres good stuff too. Like having sex. lol

Having dreams in your sleep is perfectly normal.





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To accuse me of being insane just because I say something that you dont agree with is kinda insane in itself. To sum it up, N. America is a country with sexist anti-male laws. And getting married (unless you are gay) in this part of the world is suicidally insane. Disagree with me on that but calling me insane because you disagree with me is just plain rude.
Wait a minute here… you think people calling you insane is rude. Okay, I can understand that, I guess. Then you say that anyone getting married in North America is suicidally insane. Do you realize the hypocrisy of that statement? Do you realize how rude that is to the many members of this community who are married? You've just called all of them insane, for crying out loud.

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To accuse me of being insane just because I say something that you dont agree with is kinda insane in itself. To sum it up, N. America is a country with sexist anti-male laws. And getting married (unless you are gay) in this part of the world is suicidally insane. Disagree with me on that but calling me insane because you disagree with me is just plain rude.
Wait a minute here… you think people calling you insane is rude. Okay, I can understand that, I guess. Then you say that anyone getting married in North America is suicidally insane. Do you realize the hypocrisy of that statement? Do you realize how rude that is to the many members of this community who are married? You've just called all of them insane, for crying out loud.

You misread/misunderstood me.

Thats my own personal opinion.

To people who are married its their own choice. I'm not here to bring down the hammer of righteousness or shit like that by telling all of em to agree with me. I respect your decisions and your opinions.

Thats why I expect vice-versa on my own opinions and decisions. :)

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That does not change the fact that you essentially think every North American on these forums insane. Some people might take issue when your 'opinion' is that they happen to be nuts.

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That does not change the fact that you essentially think every North American on these forums insane. Some people might take issue when your 'opinion' is that they happen to be nuts.

Dude, I still believe I made a very educated decision to not get involved in relationships and avoid marriage. It is not something out of the blue and spur of the moment and influenced by emotion. No amount of valentines footage showing happy couples is gonna change my decision.

I firmly believe that getting into relationships will not solve a supposed 'mental health' issue.

Ooh… youre single and you suppose to be lonely and depressed! Then you find a partner and YEHEY!!! The magic pill to disappear your problems!!!

The world doesnt work that way, my friend.

The original topic being discussed is a psychiatrist FORCING his shit on me for the sake of more profit for the whole 'mental health' industry. I told him I'm already a functional person and theres no need for me to be on meds and keep doing 'therapy' and shit.

It is wrong and unprofessional to force people into a certain ideology.



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And getting married (unless you are gay) in this part of the world is suicidally insane.

Um, I'm pretty sure it's the exact opposite, mainly because there are some sick fuckwits out there who will murder two gay men just for getting married.

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Hahaha, he's right, Americans are all crazy lol!

You know it ;)

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I've had plenty of school shooting dreams.

I always get shot up.




It sucks.



I've also had a good number of dreams where I've been blamed for killing someone, even though I had nothing to do with it.


Those also suck.




I prefer the dreams that make no sense (ie. you grow wings and fly through a volcano). Those dreams are awesome.

I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean I plan on shooting someone anytime soon. I don't really need a God to help me solve my problems.

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I also dreamt about getting shot.

It was like a post-apocalyptic scifi setting kinda thing.

Where small bands of rebels run around and fight these guys who wear black and can cloak and move fast like a starcraft ghost. It was pretty intense running around and shooting.

In the end I was cornered and captured. I was pinned to the ground and had a gun pointed to my ear. Then I woke up in the real world.

It was sick. I felt a slight pain in that right ear where the gun was pointed at in the dream.


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Ive had dreams of shooting people or even being blamed for crimes I didn't commit. I've also dreamt of other fucked up stuff too.

Doesn't mean I'm gonna do it.

And I also agree with kypol on that whole marriage thing. Save for the whole "anybody who gets marries is insane!!" thing.
I just don't think it's very economical. He says that the males get fucked over in relationships, but the women can get equally as screwed over. Especially if the man has more money in the relationship to get a better lawyer than the one the woman has.

let's see why it's a bad idea in terms of money:
1. wedding stuff. Wedding dresses and tuxedos both cost up to $6,000 total.
And a church wedding service, or even to just rent a nice public space outside costs a lot of money. not to mention buying the cake, the repection, and so on forth…
all of that can run up to $10,000 or higher. That's just for a CHEAP YET DECENT wedding. all for something that'll only happen once (unless you remarry or some shit). And that's the kind of money that could had gone toward a house.

2. Legal Mumbo. Sure you can get befients and such from the government for being married, but in the end it's not worth it. Especially when they start to cut you off in other areas that you previously had support in before. I've seen it before with some of my friends, and also associates at some of my jobs I had before. A single woman who had tons of support before in little things such as her job, social security, food stamps, etc. Well, they all start to slack off a little or even stop completely just because she got married to a man. Assuming that now that she's got a man to "take care of her", such support isn't needed. They might not even meant to be so sexist unintentionally, but subconsciously a lot of people react in such a way. The only way that they would continue the support the woman had before as an single woman was if she was expecting children or had a lot of children.

3. Legal Mumbo, part two. As I said before… while it's true that the courts can be rather unfair to a man, a woman is equally screwed if the said ex-husband was "richer" and had a way much better lawyer than her. So what if he was truly a scumbag? With his superior lawyer, he'll seem like a total saint in front of the court and end up with everything that he didn't deserve, while the woman is left with minimum stuff.
And even if both lawyers were both equal, there's a very good chance that both parties could come away with considerable losses on both ends. not only financially, but also mentally and emotionally.

So when you look at it that way… getting married for all that, and losing over $100,000 worth of stuff (that's if you get that far enough in your life to gather that enough wealth), along with a chunk of your life….
It just seems so senseless.

To me, it would seem better to just live together, and pretend we're married. Yeah, I'm not really a beliver of "legal marriage". Yes, the breakup might still be messy… but at least it'll cost less.
And this is coming from a girl who believes that she'll be with her one love forever. It just doesn't hurt to plan ahead even if you don't think there'll be actually a break-up. And you know something? My guy agrees with me.

Kypol's not so insane to me in that regards.

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Hahaha, he's right, Americans are all crazy lol!

You know it ;)

Everyone's crazy. From any country. Even Australia.

lolSteverIrwinlol?

The solution to my problem lies in strength. And through God comes strength as well as through my own human effort.

Nasa Diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa (In God is mercy, in people are action)

God- The magic pill that solves all your problems.

Ok Ok. America is NOT religious.

Some polls show that around 50% of Americans believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible. As shameful as it is, America is a religious country.

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Ok Ok. America is NOT religious.

Some polls show that around 50% of Americans believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible. As shameful as it is, America is a religious country.

yeah. why else do you think gay marriage is so controversial right now in our country? it's like gay marriage was made legal only in like TWO states, and even then that didn't last long due to a lot of people whining and moaning about it.
And it also is the same reason why my whole life I've been running into plenty of people who was too excited about their own religion to the point of being one of those crazy people who's obsessed with the bible.

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Marriage is a religous ceremony, I'll give them that. But because of this I think it should be limited to only religous people. This way civil union will become mainstream and less people will feel left out.

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Whenever You start to have inclinations of going on massive shooting sprees (usually around the time bills are past due, I imagine)
play a few rounds of GTA VICE CITY, or San Andreas.
also, DESTROY ALL HUMANS is a fun game.

sort of Demented, that one…major fun, though, especially after you unlock all of the AWESOME weapons!!!
and Cheat codes are a Must have.

from the Same Game makers …Pandemic…Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars Battlefront 2.

my favorite part of that game is being able to Hunt Gungans.

I am also the Founder of the Gungan Hunters Group…
on Myspace…

http://groups.myspace.com/GunganHunters

JUST SAY NO TO GUNGANS

Now Honestly, I know better than to just start offing people with random weaponry.
that sort of thing…just Haint right.
Also, did you ever watch the Movie…

Heathers

that was a good one.

You know what I think.

I think these kids, THEY have questions about the world, and they get sad because the answers are not pleasant, so their parents can't be bothered and they take them to the Doctor they get put on Psychological suppressing medications from thier parents oversized medical plans…and they Snap…because, teenagers are supposed to be sad, and angry and overly happy and…emotional…because we are not ROBOTS and in todays society, they want us all to be little grey robots but, sometimes, the supressed emotions boil over and …BINGO!
KILLING SPREE!!!!
huh!? :( :nerd: :robo: :robo: :robo: >:) :gem: 8D :spin: :cry: :dizzy: :mad
Mean while…some politician is waiting in line to use these incidences to seize the nations guns.

We are all in a bad way if we lose our guns.

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Marriage is a religous ceremony, I'll give them that. But because of this I think it should be limited to only religous people. This way civil union will become mainstream and less people will feel left out.

The thing is, Marriage, being a religious ceremony, should not legally be regulated by the government at all. You know, all the stuff about not making religion-related laws?

So yeah, the government has no right to say who can or can't get married.

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But the religous people do. This is what I'm saying. It's a religous ceremony between a man and a woman, so you have to be:

A.)Religous

B.)A man and woman

But no, people who don't regularly participate in their religion get married all the time. If you're going to bend A, you're going to have to bend B.

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God- The magic pill that solves all your problems.

A misconception.

To tell you the truth, the Christians who think that way are the ones who most likely leave the faith or become slackers.

Leave the faith - Omg I have a problem. I prayed to God with my tears and blood and God doesnt answer my prayers. Therefore God doesnt Exist!

Slackers - As long as I believe in Jesus I will be saved. I dont need to follow the 10 commandments. Nobody goes to hell anyway because God is all merciful.

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praying for something rather than doing an action that will get you to your goal can make you lazy.

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also i find it funny that religious zealots pray for bad things to happen to those that do not follow their way. as if some kind of universal balance has been boughten down to earth.

IMO that's a sin of pride.

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God- The magic pill that solves all your problems.

A misconception.

To tell you the truth, the Christians who think that way are the ones who most likely leave the faith or become slackers.

Leave the faith - Omg I have a problem. I prayed to God with my tears and blood and God doesnt answer my prayers. Therefore God doesnt Exist!

Slackers - As long as I believe in Jesus I will be saved. I dont need to follow the 10 commandments. Nobody goes to hell anyway because God is all merciful.

Interestingly enough, pretty much the same thing happens to people who think anti depressants are supposed to solve all their problems for them, only instead they fuck their lives up.

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I had a shooting dream a long time ago…
It was scary, but cooler than Kuypol's dream.
In that particular dream I was a minor member of a criminal gang… Really minor. I think I just did their taxes or something (WTF would I know about taxes anyway???). But one day in the dream I just knew my time was up and they were coming to get me. I don't know if it was really up or not but that's what I thought anyway.

So there were two guys at the front door in black suits, looking smart. I saw them through the spy hole. I ran into the kitchen and leapt over the counter to get my automatic from a drawer, checked that it was loaded and stuffed it into the back of my shorts. Then I went back to the door and opened it. The guys were happy to see me, all friendly and smiles…
I shot them both dead before they knew what was up. Then searched them and took their guns. I was scared as hell and felt horrible, but I thought it was either them or me and I mattered more.

So I jumped in my car, ready to go after the rest, one by one, to hunt them all down and kill them before they could kill me or realise I was even after them.

…I got to the boss's house and began…

I don't remember much more, it was a very dark, desperate dream, very Nior, like Subculture's comic of that name actually. I hated that feeling and situation of "Kill of be Killed", but I was ready to go through with it.

I think that kind of dream is a manifestation of anxiety, a feeling that your problems are suffocating and overwhelming and that you need to fight back to get on top of things again.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned but dreams are often influenced by things you see in your everyday life (sometimes you may not even know you saw them)

so that dream could be just images from a movie or off of TV.

[edit]After watching movies like Zero Day and Elephant I ended up having a similar dream to yours.

but along the same lines dreams can also be projections of your sub consciouses thoughts and feelings (things you may not realize you even felt at least outwardly)

Another questions, at any point in the dream did you become lucid? not necessarily awake to the fact that you were dreaming but just guiding you actions in the dream. Did you know what you were doing?

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The form my dream took was very likely taken from Pulp Fiction, Raw Deal, or a crappy Steven Segal film… But the look of it wasn't as important as the feelings and emotions. In that dream the adrenalin was HIGH and I was scared as hell, but 100% determined to get them before they could get me. Heh, I was aware that my life was in my own hands, that was all… Apart from my remorse about having to kill.

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