@ Sebastian
I really like how these ideas of yours are going and totally would love to do the collab on this one. I think it's been growing to something a lot bigger than I had originally expected as I had just intended to write a sort of (meanwhile back at base) short story. One thing I'd say as to your idea with Motherboard contacting them. What if instead of contacting them in disguise (as they've already faced her once) what if instead they had been receiving Anonymous letters for a while now saying stuff like "Hey Heroes, I thought you should know that ___ and ____ is going to be robbed at ____" …. though a little less boy scout sounding and a lot more demeaning. At first they can take these to be just pranks but as each of the letters prove accurate the Heroes left behind begin to get curious and investigate. It would be cool if there was some sort of computer phrase you could use that wouldn't be obvious but at the same time you'd totally clue into at the end. (I have to admit I love the Wireless/Motherboard name thing and totally would want to play off of that at least once). It really builds on Motherboard's character that she's manipulating both sides to keep them too busy to figure things out and builds on the end story even MORE that the entire cover up is just an elaborate cover up for the ultimate plot. I don't know who this ultimate bad guy is…. or if you even have plans yet but I'd totally suggest either someone who you would NEVER expect or someone who you haven't heard from in ages. I love it when stories go twist like that.
As for Virtus being cool headed… Let's admit it, Plague is kind of under extreme circumstances to take a moral personality off of, but what I basically have gotten of Virtus and how he'll interact with HA so far…. and correct me if I'm wrong because I'm assuming a LOT based on what I've seen in human nature in real life. But what I'd say is Virtus will try to fit in… but at the same time will always be a little different. Because he's now just about following orders, he has his moral code and he'll stick to it. I think that by doing that he'll get himself into some pretty tense situations at times… probablly with bombshell who's taken on (even if by public consensus) the leadership of HA more than anyone. But at the same time he'll keep them honest. I mean there were many times throughout the Secret Wars (Sorry for constantly referring back to another community project but it's where I've seen Virtus' character brought out best so far) there were so many times when you're like "Oh man he's going to lose it, he's going to whip them so badly" but at then he wouldn't. And while everyone else was choosing sides, he was supportive but at the same time he (sorry, back to the lone wolf) was his own man who was more concerned about the greater good of everyone else over following orders. Intentional or not you've made a really rich and slightly different hero character and it would be great to see him done justice in hA
There are other characters too like Vora, The Impractical Mr Imp, Comet Kid, and Azumorph who I haven't been able to see enough of to fill my satisfaction but from what I hear from their creators I'd also love to see those characters built out more too as they could play some pretty big roles.
Okay, I've written a LOAD of stuff here and I'm at a work computer with slow internet so let's hope this posts but first
@Abt:
At this point should I consider creating a new thread for this story? Or can we keep spamming this forum? I guess we need to brainstorm a good name for it first. Any ideas under the themes of Deception, computers, betrayal, and those who are left behind?
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That is something to take under consideration, Sebastian. I just sort of figured he would be on the team. There is a line from an exchange between Imp and Spatulator about why the latter is there, and it is mentioned that the teamy be shorthanded, as many members are also in Heroes Unite, and have been ordered to search for Energize (and I would figure some are off on their own adventures). Maybe I could mention that such a reason is why they asked Virtus to come along as well, because they knew they would need manpower, and Virtus is still useful in altercations.
To tell the truth, Virtus has one of the worst times of the bunch. He is the primary character to go up against Phobia, who spends an entire fight dredging up his worst fears. Really, I pity any character going up against Phobia, it's just that Virus seemed a good fit in the situation.
But it makes me wonder about his interactions with Vora, in particular, as I do have her expressing concern for him at one point. If the team is distrutful of him, I may have to rework the scene a little (especially as I have her call him Seb).
And the couple is still up in the air. It is firm that they are non-combatants, making a total of at least four non-combatants at the wedding (including the minister and Jessica Mason's friend Bobby), which is the reason why Bombshell and Shell are not in the main part of the church when the F Man shows up. But I'm going to see wre I can grab the characters. But note: onof them is from the Heroes Unite/Alliance universe, as HUB does mention that at least one of the couple has legally changed their sex (something they only need to do in their own universe). If anybody here wants to create the character, go ahead. I have not specified whether the character identifies as male or female, but I have said that the couple is same sex, so the partner identifies as the same.
Heck, I haven't given the minister any character, either, but I may ask a real person if they want to show up in the comic. We'll see. I need to get past one point where I'm stuck, and once I finish the first draft of the script I can see about some of the other refinements.
Ok. I'm caught up. You look away for a month or two and everything really piles up on you. Macattack, you're free to use Motherboard for this, but yeah, like you said, she's probably be a cog in the Ancient or some bigger villains gambit. The whole world domination thing is not her style. She's more of the crime for pay type. Information brokering and manipulation is totally her style, so that whole tricking the heroes by sending them messages is totally up her alley.
Also, feel free to use Comet Kid as much as you want as long as you try to stick to his characterization.
OK, lets see what I can add to this conversation…
Firstly, Macattack, if you want a bigger villain for your story, I offer JOD to be used if you want to. He is all about manipulating people for personal gain. I wanted a story to introduce JOD to HU continuity, but I couldn't think of a good one.
Secondly, shasta, Kraysch would definitely thrive in that sort of environment. However, he does not share the beliefs of The Seraphim, he thinks they're hate filled idiots, (He thinks all humans are hate filled idiots) he's just in it for the money and to show his superiority over everybody (anybody). Hey, could even be a double agent for JOD, I don't know what that would entail, probably betraying the other villains for some reason.
I offer JOD to be used if you want to. He is all about manipulating people for personal gain. I wanted a story to introduce JOD to HU continuity, but I couldn't think of a good one.Good idea. Since you're his creator - what do you think: what would JOD ultimately want, what would his plans be?
Oh, and Hero? Could you bring me up to speed on what Motherboard has been up to since HU: EGO?
Welp, the Ancient bought her out for a one time gig on the Guardbreakers, the Anti- Young Guard initiative he put together for a chapter, kinda got taken out by Thunder-Cat Jr. Since then, she's probably been to jail, broken out or been broken out by prospective employers as the case goes gone back underground, stealing and trading information, hacking for hire.
I'm all for my characters being used in the story. Most of them would do it for money so it works, Saint is a harder one to explain. He wants to "Purge" the world so that way it can be made anew, so I'm not sure how he would work, unless he's against the marriage on religious grounds…which could work.
I chose Saint because his motivation could be that he can at least get rid of a good amount of people, while also possibly discouraging more beings from coming into the Heroes Unite/Alliance reality. However, this is not enumerated in the script, just why I would think he would be there.
And with Kraysch, I'm thinking he was bored and wanted money, but it would be interesting to try and think of it as something more insidious. I'm using him because of how effective he would be in the situation. And to clarify: the majority of the villains took the job for the money (especially characters like Killerton), but some have a bit of ideology for it (the Metahumanists, I would think, are there because it is a human wedding and they have the added incentive of money). The few that are there for religious principles are the ones which would be truly feuling Kraysch, and Captain Nazi is the main source.
I'm getting quite close to the end of the script. It's been interesting tying in all the characters and trying to make the whole thing coherent. While I think I may have pulled off some things quite well, I may be horribly mistaken, and I'll know that when I send off the scripts to the various characters' creators for editing.
But I've been wondering: if the script does not fit with the flow of the storylines, but can still fit with everything planned, timeline-wise, then should a secondary comic site be created to deal with such a circumstance? If Heroes Alliance had a secondary title, a lot like Astonishing X-Men accomodates for other stories to Uncanny X-Men, what would people think? After all, Heroes Unite did have HU Adventures (though it wasn't exactly the same thing). Of course, I could just be thinking of something that would be far more work than anybody would want, but I would think such a thing could work as a HA Adventures of sort, as well, giving side stories and updates for when the main comic is lagging (as will happen, due to any sort of problems with computers, personal lives and so on–the state of affairs currently with the comic being a prime example).
Good idea. Since you're his creator - what do you think: what would JOD ultimately want, what would his plans be?
I had to think about this. The way I see it JOD is interested in procuring items and money from people he thinks shouldn't have them in the first place. He'd steal from corrupt corporations, corrupt politicians, and even other super villains! (One way he could recruit super villains to his cause is steal something of theirs and blackmail them) In fact, he could even target museums on the basis that they have powerful objects that they don't even use, and therefore shouldn't have. He particularly likes to raid museums that have devices that once belonged to retired/dead super villains, as he is an admirer of past villains the same way Azumorph is an admirer of past heroes.
The few that are there for religious principles are the ones which would be truly feuling Kraysch, and Captain Nazi is the main source.
Ah yes, Kraysch used to work for the Nazis, but he ended up betraying them and defecting to Russia. (He heard them say that after they get rid of all the Jews and such, they'd get rid of all the superhumans and aliens i.e. him) This, however, won't be a problem him, if anything working with a Nazi will be a nostalgia trip for him!
should I consider creating a new thread for this story? Or can we keep spamming this forum?I'm fine with this thread being active for once! ;-)
But I've been wondering: if the script does not fit with the flow of the storylines, but can still fit with everything planned, timeline-wise, then should a secondary comic site be created to deal with such a circumstance? If Heroes Alliance had a secondary title, a lot like Astonishing X-Men accomodates for other stories to Uncanny X-Men, what would people think? After all, Heroes Unite did have HU Adventures (though it wasn't exactly the same thing). Of course, I could just be thinking of something that would be far more work than anybody would want, but I would think such a thing could work as a HA Adventures of sort, as well, giving side stories and updates for when the main comic is lagging (as will happen, due to any sort of problems with computers, personal lives and so on–the state of affairs currently with the comic being a prime example).I'm leaning towards having everything on the same site. In the best case, it will make updates more steady and/or faster. Also, you have to remember that both sites would still be feeding off the same pool of artists, and getting pages from the artists is the primary cause of delays.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the script "not fitting with the flow of storylines" in the first place. ^^; I'll certainly be happy to have a certain diversity on the main site.
@Azu: So he's kind of like a corrupt Robin Hood except instead of stealing from the rich to give to the poor he's steal from the rich so no one gets to keep it? I'll think him over as I like the Museum mix, though personally I'm still leaning towards Motherboard just because I'm having fun with all the computer jokes :P
@Hero: Do you think Motherboard could be threatened? I just thought of it today that if it's not too much of a spoiler it might add to the larger plot if you have Motherboard appear before this dark shadowy figure saying "Excellent all went according to plan." or something along the same lines at which point Motherboard asks if this means she can go free and begs not to be put back in that cold dark place of who knows what ending with the shadowy figure replying. "Nonsense, if I let you go then how will I know I can get you back when I need you later?" *cue trap door or guards taking her away your choice, shadowy figure from behind looking at list or computer file of all superhero villains saying* "As I'm going to need ALL of you before this is complete!" Cliff hanger ending
…. should I be concerned that I keep writing ultimate super villains as merciless sadistic creatures who enjoy watching friend and foe suffer??… ah well builds suspence.
P.S. Working on concept cover art *Though my art stinks* as I had a kind of cool idea that I want to run by you guys. Post here??
Well, like I said. She's not the world domination type. She's gotta keep her sybiote busy on small crimes most of the time so it doesn't up and decide to eradicate all live on the planet. And, she herself isn't much interested in power so much as money and living a comfortable life. I mean, you get on top of things, then you've gotta make all the decisions, you get blamed for everything, and if she goes too high profile, it makes it harder for her to get around electronics and the net without people developing defenses against her.
Okay… so far this is what I've got
Motherboard=Villain
Heroes= Wireless, Virtus, Comet Kid, Vora, Azumorph, Imp?? (haven't heard yet)
Co-writer= Seb (Inbox me as to how this works as I have nooo clue how the system works here)
Coverart= 50% done… it's more just to show the concept… and hopefully not to upset too many with my absolutely horrid renditions of their heroes
Is there anything I'm missing in this? I have to admit it, I kinda wish I thought up a story ages ago. It's pretty fun
Well, I should say that've already sent out my script, too, for edits and other such aspects. I've already heard back from some of the creators and have had some constructive criticism. I'll see what happens when they all get back to me, but I still remain cautiously optimistic.
I'll tell you how I did it: first, I tried sending the same messe to multiple usernames at once, which I found doesn't work. So then I sent the message to just one username, pressed back and put another username in the top line and sent it, and repeated until I sent it to everybody who I needed to. Sure, it's time-consuming and I didn't really personalize anything for each user until I found out I'd neglected to send a message to Hero and wrote a new message which had the same gist, but it's how I got it done.
Two things I wish you could do in a PQ: send to multiple people and attach files. I don't like pasting the script into the message itself, because then it seems far to daunting a message, and one has to scroll quite a ways before they can respond.
Slow down, people! Why is this forum suddenly so active!? XD
@Macattack
Well, we cant exactly call it a collaboration now that youve already written the script so quickly! XD
Im not sure about Motherboard dropping off letters rather than e-mails (unless that is part of her ruse to throw off suspicion from herself) as the HA base is if Im not mistaken at the bottom of the sea.
Well thats a first. First time a fan has described Virtus better than I ever could, and also convincing me that maybe hes not so boring despite his goody-goody persona. For that, I thank you. ^^
As for titles
How about Crossed Wires? Its a triple pun if we take your cover into account. (Which I feel should be THE cover, because youre a breath of fresh air showing that youre willing to work to see your HA issue come to fruitition.)
@shastab24
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
- Titan is the only one that knows Virtuss real name on the team, no-one else does, not even Bombshell. Justified by her being from an alternate future where Virtus like many other heroes died and was unmasked post mortem.
- Ill have to know more about how Phobias powers work before we work out that battle.
- By distrustful, I mean more on Virtus part. The team generally accepts him anyway, as trust is what Bombshell is striving for, and hell mellow out over time eventually. His characterization depends on whether if your or Macattacks story takes place before or after one another.
@Hero
Kudos on letting us use Motherboard! As previously stated, her conquer-the-world scheme is just a deliberate act on her part to throw the HA eyes of the real plan.
@AzuJOD
Im thinking of seeding things further with the whole Villains Unite sub-plot
Would Jod be the kind of guy to join such a coalition, if only to keep an eye on them? In that case, we could definitely work him in at the end.
@Abt_Nihil
Dude, I work down in an archive at the moment
Believe me. Not everything is on the web. XD
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