Ah, the "first day of summer" is today. Kinda silly bacause it's usually snowing or bad weather but so far it has only snowed a tiny bit today. Guess this is what happens when you mix lunar-calendar holidays with the Gregorian one….
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Ironscarf wrote:
*insert vaguely stereotypical British silliness*
I don't think she needs to get her teeth "fixed", but she probably could use a better photographer.
I personally haven't made it through the 11th doctor's episodes. Or at least I think he's the 11th. I don't know for sure. They're like Bond for me, I can never really keep track of what order they're in despite enjoying the show a great deal. All I know is that the last episode had them running around world war two Britain attempting to destroy Daleks that were being used as anti-aircraft cannons. It was perhaps one of the most surreal episodes of a show outside of the time I watched public television while high on vicodin from my wisdom teeth being pulled. Either way, my point is that I continually hear bad things about these new episodes which kind of makes me not want to watch any of them lest it be a major letdown.
lba wrote:
*insert vaguely xenophobic put down*
I think that was just a pap shot - this would be more official I suppose. Same great teeth.
I still watch The Doc because my kids like me to watch it with them and it's mostly tolerable - some of the late Tennant stuff was torture. This cyberman thing really isn't cricket though.
Genejoke, I really hope your cyberumour turns out to be true.
Ironscarf! Long time no see!
I hope all is well with you.
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It's finally getting up to spring-like temperatures here! It was 8'C today, supposed to be around 15' tomorrow. I am so sick of snow.
Everyone is very worried about the massive flood we're about to have, though (which happens every year…you would think people would stop building their houses right on the gosh darn river).
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I got to be involved in selecting our new History of Science professor this week. I'm not sure how much attention they'll pay to the opinions of myself and the other student rep, but in any case it's stressful to be deciding the future of another person!
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I've been watching a lot of QI lately. All of my fellow history students just love it. Probably because our job is to relish in facts that no one else cares about. : )
I also have a bit of a crush on Jimmy Carr, but unfortunately I've seen all of his episodes now.
@Scarf-
I don't think lba meant to be insulting… Americans are like that though. -IRONY!-
And those teeth add real character to her appearance.
@Hippie-
Your Spring temps would be the absolute depths of winter here… I would be miserable… or just in fur clothes ALL the time!
QI is fantastic, but not always as correct with the facts as they lead you to believe unfortunately… It's a comedy show afterall and they like to put a spin on things to make them more notable, interesting and funny (thank gods or it'd be dull!), but yeah: take it with a grain of salt.
For example, sometimes the "facts" will be based on things that were the exception rather than the rule, which is still factual but not really representative.
That said, I love the show. I think Jimmy Carr mugs way too much… Whereas Alan Davis is wonderfully understated, but does take over sometimes. My fave is Phil Jupitas.
Hippie Van wrote:
Ironscarf! Long time no see!
I hope all is well with you.
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Hey Hippie, good to see you! I sent you a pm on that other site a few weeks back, but you clearly don't go there much! I stopped using their forum myself after Mlai and SgtBravo were banned.
I am well thanks - struggling though. How about you?
Most people seem to crush on Alan Davies - Jimmy will be thrilled.
Sorry Ozone - inadvertantly flipped the page on ya - carrying over your comments to Hippie.
I'm just yanking lba's chain, to coin an Americanism - I know him of old as a charming fellow!
@Hippie-
Your Spring temps would be the absolute depths of winter here… I would be miserable… or just in fur clothes ALL the time!
QI is fantastic, but not always as correct with the facts as they
lead you to believe unfortunately… It's a comedy show afterall and
they like to put a spin on things to make them more notable, interesting
and funny (thank gods or it'd be dull!), but yeah: take it with a grain
of salt.
For example, sometimes the "facts" will be based on things that were
the exception rather than the rule, which is still factual but not
really representative.
That said, I love the show. I think Jimmy Carr mugs way too much…
Whereas Alan Davis is wonderfully understated, but does take over
sometimes. My fave is Phil Jupitas.
Ironscarf wrote:O_O
Mlai and SgtBravo were banned
I've temp banned a few people in my time and permabanned maybe about 3… (not counting spammbots) but never of the calibre of those sorts of people.
Bravo and Mlai never stuck me as the types to behave badly and anti-community enough to get that treatment.
Can't really second guess their mods though, I don't know the story.Still, Mlai and Bravo? That's weird.
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Hahaha, scarf, just saw your sig! :)
Alfie.
@Ozone:
My favourite mistake on QI was not actually one of the facts, but their confusion about the RCMP in Canada (about 12 minutes in on the "Food" episode). Stephen Fry seems to think that all Canadian police are members of the RCMP (a lot of them are, but not in all provinces) and then is unsure if they are all mounted. Haha!
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@ Ironscarf:
I'm doing well. Nothing too new over here.
Alan Davies is lovely but in a very kiddish way. I saw him recently in a serious role and just couldn't buy it because I'm so used to his QI persona.
By the way, are American actors supposed to put on exaggerated accents in British film and tv? I've been watching Agatha Christie's Marple on Netflix and every time there is an American character they seem to have the most outrageous American accent. I can't tell if they're putting it on or if it just seems that way because they're surrounded by people with English accents.
No, not at all. I love that accent and wish I actually knew people who spoke that way.
People where I live tend to have a very neutral accent. We make good translators, apparently. And if you go out East, the folks there have the strangest mix of Irish, Scottish, English and American accents.
I think what you're hearing there is the British TV producers notion of what an American accent would've sounded like back in the thirties. This has been a stock thing on Brit shows set in the period for as long as I've been watching TV - I don't know how it started and I don't imagine any american ever really sounded like that.
Actual American I find much harder to follow - I can only catch about 50% of the dialogue in most modern US films.
Bravo and Mlai never stuck me as the types to behave badly and anti-community enough to get that treatment.
Can't really second guess their mods though, I don't know the story.Still, Mlai and Bravo? That's weird.
A couple of months back the forum regime changed to the complete opposite of what it had previously been with no explanation - suddenly we were being continually lectured about sexism, racism, feminism and other isms our lecturer had just heard about! Both Mlai and Bravo were banned for unacceptible bigotry (I'm not making this up) finding themselves in the unfortunate position of saying something they weren't supposed to in the course of discussion. What the real motive behind all of this is, I can only speculate.
Ah, so maybe it's a BBC English type thing…it's the American accent that people can understand! It's completely unfair of them to invent such a wonderful accent!
I also remember the obnoxious American character in that one episode of Fawlty Towers talking that way. Although that's a comedy, so I imagine his accent was purposely exaggerated.
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I would love to hear what exactly those two said to get themselves banned.
I'm at a liberal arts university in the middle of downtown right now so I get to hear about -isms all the time. You guys known I'm all up for those causes but man, the holier-than-thou attitude of some of these people can get tiresome sometimes.
I have had a forum adventure and found MLai's offending posts. His original post does come across pretty terribly (at least I found it slightly upsetting), but I'm fairly certain he just worded it poorly and then didn't explain himself very well.
Edit: Ah, and Bravo appears to have implied that homosexuality is a mental illness, and then asked whether serial rape, pederasty, bestiality, schizophrenia and alcoholism might also qualify as alternative lifestyles.
I honestly have no idea what his point was there, but to be honest I can kind of understand that ban.
(Sorry Bravo.)
Congrats to you SamE! ^_^
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Mlai could be a bit of a dick in the way he expressed himself, but he wasn't actually a dick and didn't have a dicking personality. He never deliberately set out to be mean or cause problems. It doesn't take much to see past his words to his real intentions. He's a good guy.
Bravo is a great guy too, as we know- smart, sensitive, mature, well read. On DD he is always on his best behaviour!
On his Facebook posts he does have a tendency to get a bit Jeremy Clarksonish however…
But, as a mod or admin you do not punish people for their own views! That is not on. You only start warning or banning if behaviour is problematic for the community- people attacking others etc. THAT is the job of a mod, not being thought police.
-unless they're advocating illegal activity.
As to the "isim" thing, I've noticed a new and very, very worrying trend towards a new puritanism: people mistakenly treating any sexuality in pop-culture as "sexist", when in reality they're simply advocating the same old fashioned religious puritan rightwing views that ALWAYS come out to CRUSH sexuality in culture.
These days it comes in a guise of anti-sexisim when in reality it IS sexism because the goal is to "protect" women from images of sexuality. The whole thing is scary and revolting to me, it literally makes me sickin my stomach to think about the twisted objectives of these people.
Instead of setting out to crush sexuality, they should be teaching themselves not to be afraid of it and to embrace it, for men and for women… Crushing it only leads to things like slut shaming and rape culture.
Sexism is about limiting opportunities for people and a culture of keeping them down based on gender, NOT about depictions of sexuality in art and broader culture. It's a short step for them to smashing the penises off of Greek statues.
So this "Puritan" view of things… is it against having strong female figures (such as the fictional Lara Croft or the real world Iron Lady)?
Sorry. The "Puritan" view makes me sick. It's too black and white for my taste and it also denies the idea that the world is really painted in shades of gray.
But, as a mod or admin you do not punish people for their own views!
That is not on. You only start warning or banning if behaviour is
problematic for the community- people attacking others etc. THAT is the
job of a mod, not being thought police.
-unless they're advocating illegal activity.
As to the "isim" thing, I've noticed a new and very, very worrying
trend towards a new puritanism: people mistakenly treating any sexuality
in pop-culture as "sexist", when in reality they're simply advocating
the same old fashioned religious puritan rightwing views that ALWAYS
come out to CRUSH sexuality in culture.
Exactly - if you're going to start banning people because you don't like their opinions, then after a while you don't have a forum anymore - you have a fan club or a cult or something. Open discussion is the nature of the beast.
But the isms in this case were adopted so quickly and in such a reversal of what had come before, it's difficult to see any real conviction there - more like slapping a particular band's badge on your beret just because the girl you fancy likes them.
Hippie, I was trying to track down those threads but failed. Your search skills are most impressive!
Yes, I wasn't saying that I would have banned Bravo had I been in the place of the admin. Just that a negative reaction to that comment didn't seem totally outrageous.
Oz, I completely agree with you about the puritan thing. It especially bothers me when radical feminists reject/put down pornography and sometimes sex overall because blah blah blah it's bad for women. It seems to me like they're reinforcing old victorian stereotypes that women are delicate flowers that must be taken care of, and can't possibly make their own decisions about these things.
I do think the femme fatale character is becoming a bit overdone, though. I don't have a problem with her overall, but I don't think it should be the go-to way to make a lady character cool.
Ironscarf said:
Hippie, I was trying to track down those threads but failed. Your search skills are most impressive!
Especially given that I didn't know what bravo's username is over there!
Not really, though. I just searched up their most recent posts as I figured those must be the offending ones.
I feel like my teasing of Ironscarf came off as me being a dick there. That's been happening a lot lately, and I honestly have a hard time telling if it's me being an ass or the people I'm surrounded by being overly sensitive ( I mean in the regular, non-internet world and it's just kind of transfering to the internet me. )
To be fair though, I also don't understand the majority of conversations around here any more seeing as how I've been so piss poor about keeping up with the happenings of the site. I've been so busy losing myself in the corporate world that I've been kind of losing track of what's going on in the places like DD that I prefer to spend my time on. It's a bit of an imbalance I feel like that gets corrected every time I leave another full-time job for unemployment/freelancing.
Okay. Playing Neverwinter Nights 2 and a question shows up in my mind…
What real world village celebrates the autumn season by having a "Harvest Brawl"? Granted the fictional village in the game was nearly destroyed 18 years prior to the start of the story. I've heard of Harvest Balls, but Harvest Brawls?
Harvest Brawl = two teams of three people braining each other with clubs…
I'd probably lose in one. I'd never participate in an event that involved cracking my skull open. My Human Wizard character barely survived the event.
-_-
addon: Not sure if Skoolmunkee will kill me for this, but I have a fighter in the game as well. He wields dual Katanas. His name? Garras Vakarian (because I couldn't think of a good name at the time). >:-)
lba wrote:
I feel like my teasing of Ironscarf came off as me being a dick there. That's been happening a lot lately, and I honestly have a hard time telling if it's me being an ass or the people I'm surrounded by being overly sensitive ( I mean in the regular, non-internet world and it's just kind of transfering to the internet me. )
For the record, I did not think you were trying to be a dick lba. This is more a case of my hilarious xenophobia retort failing to hit the comedy mark.
Reminds me of the time I called Ozone a meglomaniac, but it turned out he was having a really bad day, so instead the DD comedy hall of fame, I found myself in hastily typed apololgetic PQ corner. I really need to work on my timing.
Ironscarf wrote:No, the fact was your joke was actually spot on and I couldn't take the awful truth so I freaked…
Reminds me of the time I called Ozone a meglomaniac, but it turned out he was having a really bad day, so instead the DD comedy hall of fame, I found myself in hastily typed apololgetic PQ corner. I really need to work on my timing.
So then I…
Swallowed sadness (like a boss)
Sent some faxes (like a boss)
Called a sex line (like a boss)
Cried deeply (like a boss)
Demanded a refund (like a boss)
Ate a bagel (like a boss)
Harassed by a lawsuit (like a boss)
No promotion (like a boss)
Fifth of vodka (like a boss)
Shit on Debra's desk (like a boss)
Bought a gun (like a boss)
In my mouth (like a boss)
Oh fuck man I can't fucking do it… shit!
Pussy out (like a boss)
Puke on Debra's desk (like a boss)
Jump out the window (like a boss)…
…and so on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c
I'm sensitive like that :(
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Hi Lothar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
intolerant, arrogant PC dumbkopfs and Bravo the homophobe.In all the time I've spent with health care professionals I've picked up some of the technical talk. I stupidly used some of the lingo which is easily misinterpreted by folks unfamilar with it and even worse has been recently misused by some notable bigoted folks. I wasn't aware of how haters were misusing the terminology and it's all too easy to be mistaken for them by someone who doesn't know the proper meaning of the terms only how they've been misused by haters. So you unwittingly use a term and it's all misunderstood. It's ignorance all around and very painful for me. And then I was my usual stubborn and stupid self and set myself up for an even worse backlash.
Certain people under all their Politically Correct -ism freeness are plain arrogant, closeminded and hateful hypocrites. They're just as intolerant as the worst redneck skinhead. I was in the Army for over 10 years I've seen all the -isms first hand and fought it and even changed some minds. Calling me a homophobe is like calling a 1960's Freedom Rider a racist.
Lastly I believe in free expression. I may disagree with what you are saying but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.
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