ayesinback wrote: Sign up now (the thread is in this General Discussion forum. See 2nd post for page availabiity and either post what page you want or PQ me). Hoping to receive pages by 21 June.
I will try to read this: to be honest I'd forgotten there were still other threads on this forum.
Hippie, congratulations on reaching 20 - in an uncertain world it's good to know some things can still be relied upon, like your ever present brightly painted vans. May all your tie dyed dreams come true in the next 20 years.
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Damnit: really, really high cholesterol. I had a feeling the test results would be bad, but - no more Danish pastry? I'll come to terms with this I'm sure but tonight I grieve, haunted by the ghosts off pastries past, present and future.
Hippie Van wrote: No problem, ayes! I haven't been involved in a community project in a long time, and I've finally got some free time.
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I forgot to tell you guys - I turned TWENTY last weekend! I feel like someone must have made a mistake in the addition somewhere, and I can't possibly have had enough life experience to be out of my teens. Some of you have known me (virtually) since middle school. Pretty crazy.
Happy Birthday, Hippie Van! I hope it's a happy year for you. And 20 is as good an age as any to learn that age is not about addition – nor any other mathematical calculation. I see it as a process for enrichment and refinement - and that could be subtraction, multiplication – so many things options.
And THANKS for helping out. What page can I put you down for?
Also, @ironscarf, you're certainly not the only one who infrequents the threads. Can I sign you up for a page, too?
And his Oz-someness. Page one is still available! What a fantastic way to get the comic rolling with you doing page one. Ey? :X
I remember the time that I turned 20. It feels like such a long time ago.
Nah.
I wish I could REALLY say things like that though. How come only older people are allowed to feel nostalgic? I have the same amount of memories that everyone has, I've lived the same amount of life. Everyone does. We all get exactly a lifetime.
Since I am on the subject of asking ridiculous questions: where do you people think you'll go after you die? I personally believe in reïncarnation. I believe that I'll get another chance, and another, and another until I succeed in whatever life is supposed to be about. And I kind of hope I'll never succeed at that.
Sometimes I try to remember my undoubtedly millions of previous lives and I hit some kind of wall. my life is infinite, this particular one, it's all I've ever experienced. It stretches as far back as I can remember and it keeps on growing. I can't look beyond it in any way. It scares the shit out of me.
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In other news, Star Trek: Into Darkness is not a very bad movie. It could, by those less inclined to underwhelm than I, be called a pretty good movie. Benedict Cumberbatch is quite awesome. Quite awesome indeed.
After you're dead? Well, your consciousness will cease to exist, as the organ that fostered it, your brain, no longer functions. I like the motorcycle analogy: A motorcycle goes from A to B, that's the whole point of it, but if we take it apart to look for this forward motion, it cannot be located. The desired motion only exists as a sum of the parts, not as an entity in it's own right, unless you believe said forward motion has now ascended to heaven and is living in an eternal paradise, or will return to live again - perhaps as a light aircraft if it was well behaved last time, or a milk float if it wasn't.
Your lifeless body conventionally goes into the ground or into a purpose built furnace: I prefer the envoironmentally friendly option of providing a meal for assorted worms and beetle larvae. But after you're dead, why would you care? I don't recall losing any sleep over not having been born yet.
ayesinback wrote: Also, @ironscarf, you're certainly not the only one who infrequents the threads. Can I sign you up for a page, too?
If you're asking me, you're obviously not taking the deadline too seriously! I did finally manage to track down the script but there appears to be no indication of who the characters are or what they're supposed to look like. It's a continuity nightmare!
Kroatz wrote: In other news, Star Trek: Into Darkness is not a very bad movie. It could, by those less inclined to underwhelm than I, be called a pretty good movie. Benedict Cumberbatch is quite awesome. Quite awesome indeed.
Unfortunately to a lot of Star Trek fans (myself not included as I have yet to see the movie… waiting for it to show up on DVD) they think it's bad. Then again, what else could you expect from a fanbase that seems so compassionate about the old series that when an alt universe series shows up they turn their noses at it?
I'm thinking about doing a page… but I would really prefer to just have someone send me the script and tell me what they want. :( YUP… I'm in one of "those" moods. :P
Benedict cabbagepatch is just the standard upperclass seeming British villian type, but with a fatter face than normal.
This is quite profound: "Sometimes I try to remember my undoubtedly millions of previous lives and I hit some kind of wall. my life is infinite, this particular one, it's all I've ever experienced. It stretches as far back as I can remember and it keeps on growing. I can't look beyond it in any way. It scares the shit out of me."
Lonnehart wrote: Unfortunately to a lot of Star Trek fans (myself not included as I have yet to see the movie… waiting for it to show up on DVD) they think it's bad. Then again, what else could you expect from a fanbase that seems so compassionate about the old series that when an alt universe series shows up they turn their noses at it?
You should try looking at the movie as if it´s just another science fiction movie. Ignore the Star Trek part of it. Of course there are a lot of characters that were important in the original series also present in Into Darkness, and a lot of plot elements got transfered one on one, but the movie still sort of holds up without them. Yes, compared to the Star Trek source material, Into Darkness is bad, but compared to other Sci Fi movies, like the new `After Earth` or `Prometheus` it isn´t very bad.
Of course, I also liked the new Star Wars movies. Mostly because I didn´t look at them as part of the Star Wars verse, so it might not be a good idea to listen to my opinion on movies.
Hippie Van wrote: @ayes: A middle-ish page would be good! 19 was a pretty good year, so I am hopeful that 20 will be too.
To commemorate this milestone birthday, I've signed you up for page 20. Thank you again!!
ozoneocean wrote: I'm thinking about doing a page… but I would really prefer to just have someone send me the script and tell me what they want. YUP… I'm in one of "those" moods. :P
Dear Oz: I, as a someone, emailed you the script entire and a file of unclaimed pages. Or if you like, you can read the script online. And what do I, as a someone, want? That would be page 1, creatively illustrated by none other than you, emailed to me, to post in the comic, ideally by 21 June, but I think I'm going to have to extend the dates because of lack of artists. I guess most folks prefer full color, although I think a sepia wash might be cool.
And if your dream does not include page 1, then tell me which page you wish to do (because time 2:12 to end)
Ironscarf wrote: If you're asking me, you're obviously not taking the deadline too seriously! I did finally manage to track down the script but there appears to be no indication of who the characters are or what they're supposed to look like. It's a continuity nightmare!
YUSS! Continuity nightmare! That's what it's all about :) see last year's comic. And as I already mentioned,
ayesinback wrote: . . . I think I'm going to have to extend the dates because of lack of artists.
, the deadline is mutable.
and, uh, -ahem- Lonnehart? – a syfy space setting for one of the pages could be Amazing.
Look guys, you know how this goes. I'm gonna be in major noodge mode until we get these pages claimed. It's not pretty. You can make me go away by signing up soon.
@ayes: To be honest, I think it would be better if we had at least a vague idea of what the characters should look like and then just did our own interpretations of them…is there any way we could make that happen? Also, which pages are taken? I may look through and pick a specific page, actually (not that I don't like the page you gave me).
ayesinback wrote: Look guys, you know how this goes. I'm gonna be in major noodge mode until we get these pages claimed. It's not pretty. You can make me go away by signing up soon.
Thanks in Advance!!
Major Noodge? You're expecting us to draw characters in military uniform now? This would mean a whole load of research, unless Ozone and Bravo do it all - they already have the gear.
Besides, I don't want you to go away - everyone stop signing up right now.
@Hippie Van: Page 19 is now yours and 20 is up for grabs again.
As to a continuity for characters, the comic really encourages individual interpretation of how they look. BUT it's probably a good idea if there's a resource to have a general understanding of the character traits. For example, I've seen Bill Duck as the adventurer / explorer / rough-n-tumble sort, somewhere along the lines of Indiana Jones or even Steve Irwin. Calling Gunwallace!! Can you post some general character traits in the sign-up thread? Or here? Or both, since these are the major noodge days. which brings me to
@lovelysillyironscarf: Yes, the pages do need to use a military theme; that is, the pages you do. Which ones are they, by the way? And, really, the research is not so tough. Here you go:
ayesinback wrote: As to a continuity for characters, the comic really encourages individual interpretation of how they look. BUT it's probably a good idea if there's a resource to have a general understanding of the character traits. For example, I've seen Bill Duck as the adventurer / explorer / rough-n-tumble sort, somewhere along the lines of Indiana Jones or even Steve Irwin. Calling Gunwallace!! Can you post some general character traits in the sign-up thread? Or here? Or both, since these are the major noodge days. which brings me to
I get that, but I think the best way to do this sort of thing would be to have a very general description of characters, e.g. John Smith has brown hair and wears a top hat. That would allow for basically just as much creativity, but the comic would be easier to follow. It's not a big deal, but maybe something we could think about for the next time around if not for this one.
fuck everything. I tripped on the stairs in my back garden, fell down and smashed my phone screen. fuck fuch fuckkityy fuckfuck. -_-
Have to ring for repair quotes tmorrow.My savings at the moment are sinking dowwwwwwwwwnnnnnn………
I would like to do the comic play page, but I am not in the mindspace for it right at them moment, I will try and come at the intomorrow or the next day.
ozoneocean wrote: fuck everything. I tripped on the stairs in my back garden, fell down and smashed my phone screen. fuck fuch fuckkityy fuckfuck. -_-
Have to ring for repair quotes tmorrow.My savings at the moment are sinking dowwwwwwwwwnnnnnn………
I would like to do the comic play page, but I am not in the mindspace for it right at them moment, I will try and come at the intomorrow or the next day.
Ow… I hope you didn't sustain any bad injuries. I've fallen down stairs before. Definitely not pleasant.
The worst injury will be my wallet. I fell up the stairs. They're rough limestone blocks. I landed on the stupid hand that was holding the phone. Most of the force was taken by the heel of my palm, only part was taken by the phone. I still feel some of the shock in my wrist… SO basically the phone and that hand saved me from having my teeth smashed, because my face was next to go down after the hand…
ozoneocean wrote: The worst injury will be my wallet. I fell up the stairs. They're rough limestone blocks. I landed on the stupid hand that was holding the phone. Most of the force was taken by the heel of my palm, only part was taken by the phone. I still feel some of the shock in my wrist… SO basically the phone and that hand saved me from having my teeth smashed, because my face was next to go down after the hand…
STill friken bad.
The exact same thing happened to me at a party a few months back. I´ve been walking around with the broken phone, which apart from a few cracks still works perfectly, all that time and I still haven´t gotten enough money together to fix it. It might even be cheaper to buy myself a new phone…
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I've been reading a lot of Terry Pratchett's discworld novels lately and decided that a comic book about it would be awesome, a television series would be even more awesome… For those who don´t know the discworld novels:
The Discworld is a flat, round world, carried by four turtles on the back of a giant turtle swimming through space. The world exists only because every probability graph needs to have a littlest number. It is awesome. People should read it.
If one would read the stage directions of the play the characters are roughly described. It helps to have a nodding acquiantance with the plot conventions of detective fiction and especially 1940's noir movies as possibly parodied by Warner Brothers Looney Tunes? the characters are all the usual archetypes. Watch the movie the Third Man and imagine Bob Hope in the leading role, guest-starring Abbot and Costello. Clara would be Dottie Lamour and the other gal Veronica (Swan) Lake with Bill Duck played by Alan Ladd on his soapbox to look taller.
Expand your cultural vocabulary back a few decades to movies that aren't in color with cartoons that are (with a serial and a double feature) on a Saturday morning matinee before TV destroyed the world's imagination. All standard types from a film noire as seen through the prism of Tex Avery, Bob Clampett, and Looney Tunes et al.
Maybe one has to have parents who grew up with this stuff as opposed to ones who grew up on Scooby Doo?
I'm not sure if that was meant to be a dig at what you assume to be my lack of cultural knowledge or something, Bravo?
In any case, I can certainly guess as to how some of the characters are meant to look, but I think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to have a brief visual description of them than for me to go and watch a bunch of films so I can do one comic page. Ain't nobody got time for that!
The exact same thing happened to me at a party a few months back. I´ve been walking around with the broken phone, which apart from a few cracks still works perfectly, all that time and I still haven´t gotten enough money together to fix it. It might even be cheaper to buy myself a new phone…
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I've been reading a lot of Terry Pratchett's discworld novels lately and decided that a comic book about it would be awesome, a television series would be even more awesome… For those who don´t know the discworld novels:
The Discworld is a flat, round world, carried by four turtles on the back of a giant turtle swimming through space. The world exists only because every probability graph needs to have a littlest number. It is awesome. People should read it.
I did some Quote shopping and I got a price of $169 at a place that's not too hard to get to, so I may have it fixed this afternoon. The first place I rang quoted me $379… At that stage I was really thinking a new phone would be better. $169 is easier to cope with. I don't want to leave it broken because some small spinlters have already come off… so it's a potential danger to me and probably to the LCD undrneath- If that gets damaged it'll cost much more to fix.
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There are some animations of some of the discworld books already… Soul Music is one. Maybe Mort too? I can't remember. I don't really like the style they used. There are 3 movies, made for TV but done pretty well- The Colour of Magic/The light Fantastic, The Hogfarther, and Postal. Of all of them I thought Postal was the best. It was funny, very well done, with a good view of the normal magic/scientific daily workings of the Discworld. The Colour of magic was pretty cheap looking (to me) and a terrible book to do a movie off because it's an early, weird version of the Discworld when it was still just a parody of mainstream fantasy and not it's own place- there was obvious Robert E Howard, Fritz Lieber, Anne MacCaffery and other stuff there that theye didn't bother to put in the film properly because the parody reference thing doesn't fit with the modern series anymore.
The Hogfather just went on and on… I found it booring. But the actor that played Taetime was pretty good in that he looked exactly like James Cagney and spoke like him too, which was deliberate and fantastic because he was playing a psychopath.
There are some animations of some of the discworld books already… Soul Music is one. Maybe Mort too? I can't remember. I don't really like the style they used. There are 3 movies, made for TV but done pretty well- The Colour of Magic/The light Fantastic, The Hogfarther, and Postal. Of all of them I thought Postal was the best. It was funny, very well done, with a good view of the normal magic/scientific daily workings of the Discworld. The Colour of magic was pretty cheap looking (to me) and a terrible book to do a movie off because it's an early, weird version of the Discworld when it was still just a parody of mainstream fantasy and not it's own place- there was obvious Robert E Howard, Fritz Lieber, Anne MacCaffery and other stuff there that theye didn't bother to put in the film properly because the parody reference thing doesn't fit with the modern series anymore.
The Hogfather just went on and on… I found it booring. But the actor that played Taetime was pretty good in that he looked exactly like James Cagney and spoke like him too, which was deliberate and fantastic because he was playing a psychopath.
I´ve watched both The Colour of Magic, which I found to be quite fun, and the Hogfather, which is a tradition of mine to watch every christmas for the past three years or so. Going Postal is a movie I'm not ging to watch until I've reached that part if the series. Since I've only read up to "Lords and Ladies" and I don't really have enough money to keep buying a new book whenever I've finished the last one, it might take a while before I watch it.
What I would really like to see in a television series is a sort of mash up of all the books, sort of placing most of the seperate stories at the same time. The clearing of Ank Morpork in "The light fantastic" would work really well with the early parts of "Moving Pictures". The role of Granny Weatherwax in "Equal Rites" would become so much funnier if all the events of "Sourcery" happened at the same time. Granny Weatherwax walking through wizards fighting each other, totally ignoring them because that's what she does, would be the best television in years.
I don't know if you (Oz) have read all of the books but there isn't a single one I've read so far that I didn't love. (with the possible exception of "Eric" which didn't really compare to the source material…)
I started to lose interest with the later books when characters started to become ciphers for Pratchett's cultural and political perspective, especially someone like Sam Vimes who seems to be Pratchett's proxy. The thing is that it's a perspective that I agree with, I just don't like it being preached to me.
Anyway, they are great books. I see what you mean by a mashup idea… I think it'd be better if Pratchett just wrote a series though maybe? The Going Postal movie is pretty close to that idea, because unlike the other two movoes you have a good look at the normal working everyday Ahnk Morpork, with all its usual character types.
Stylisticly it's interesting to see the period they've settled on for the look of things, and that fits with how the series has changed too. In the early days Pratchett went for a traditional sword and sorcery setting, the low fantasy style of Fritz Lieber was pretty obvious and Ank Morpork was clearly a close parody of Lieber's famous Lanhkmar. But as Pratchett moved more to social commentary and started incorporating technology he moved to an obvious Dickensian 19th century London setting, and Going Postal shows that mix pretty clearly.
Hippie Van wrote: In any case, I can certainly guess as to how some of the characters are meant to look, but I think it makes a heck of a lot more sense to have a brief visual description of them than for me to go and watch a bunch of films so I can do one comic page. Ain't nobody got time for that!
If nobody wants to help out with that, maybe we could just change the look of the characters from panel to panel, thus keeping the continuity nightmare theme?
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