I have watched Top Gun over one hundred times, and I can watch Christoph Waltz's strudel scene in Inglorious Basterds a thousand more. My idea of a good time is watching James Mcavoy in Atonement. So I get it. I know the appeal of a man in a uniform. Vestis Virum Reddit–"Clothes make the man!"
Personally, I love the uniform and clothing style of the Axis and Allies from WWII era. It has to do with that fresh-pressed, ironed pleat in the front and back of the pants leg that completes the outfit. And the daily workout regimen required to fit in dress blues guarantees a strong body.
Ah, but I digress…
My hometown is a very active military town with a major base in the city. It was not uncommon to see many girls in my high school bringing these slightly older, enlisted guys to formal dances. Everyone is entitled to their type, but I noticed that my classmates that joined the military immediately after graduation were getting married very young, having children (plural) and going through a divorce by nineteen. I have seen relationships shattered because of an unfaithful spouse or the depression of deployment.
It depends on the uniform, it depends on the guy.
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Ya, what about a supermarket worker's uniform? Or a road worker all in hi-vis gear? :D
This is the current state of my hussar gear, as it continually evolves:
Needs bigger, shiner buttons on the doman jacket, silver strips on the trousers… Maybe a different hat.
Not really very swoon-worthy though. For that you need a sort of practiced flare/swager to wear it "juuuust" right, the right sort of bearing and stance.
-That's a real thing: Military types would have to stand very straight and correctly, they'd be very used to keeping their backs nice and straight, shoulders up, chests out that they'd do it naturally and without too much stiffness, also they'd be a lot more comfy in their outfit so they'd wear it better.
Personally, I love the uniform and clothing style of the Axis and Allies from WWII era. It has to do with that fresh-pressed, ironed pleat in the front and back of the pants leg that completes the outfit. And the daily workout regimen required to fit in dress blues guarantees a strong body.
Yep those clean fresh World War II types… this is how World War II soldiers saw themselves… a far cry from movies and TV. It's not the uniform or the spit and polish, it's the man inside the uniform.
To be fair Bravo, the subject IS uniforms, not necessarily soldiers. I understand your perspective, but it's a little at variance with the ideal of the dashing hero that women swoon over.
The most dashing, swooniest, crisply dressed uniformed "heros" probably never amounted to anything militarily, and the most accomplished men and women didn't care a fig for straight seems or bright buttons, but that's a slightly different subject.
Still a perfecly valid point of view of course, but on a slightly different track?
Completely on track as only a man who has worn a uniform and made women swoon can know. There's something about a soldier especailly if he reeks of oil, grease and diesel exhaust. Drives them crazy. But not everyone can be a tanker.
What woman could resist this:
It is clearly not the hussarish cut of the uniform of an officer in the 95th rifles it's that scowl and "take no prisoners" expression and what that implies. Ladies, this guy ain't gonna romance you but he's gonna give you the best night of your life.
Definitely the man.
I mean just look at that bastard! (more recent picture from Sharpe's Challenge and Sharpe's Peril) And a "right proper bastard" he is. Men dirty, rifles clean…
But when they're clean even better look out! Every bit a soldier.
The Rifles today, no more pretty hussarish uniform but ladies this guy knows how to love a woman… yes ladies raise your sights, you too can love a Rifleman. You can't always get a tanker but in a pinch a Rifleman will certainly suffice.
Personally, I've found that most girls I know have a particular affinity for a dirty, stained, field-worn set of ACU's. Something about it looking more rugged when you walk in with a crappy shave, dirt and blood on your jacket and how that means you're more manly or something. As far as I know, it just means I had a bad couple weeks in the field, but who am I to argue. Most of the girls I know these days can out shoot me out here in the sticks.
You get bonus points for being an officer, having a tab or certain unit insignia too. A set of bars, a Ranger tab or a 101st Screaming Eagle can be spun by almost any guy into a girl magnet. Thing is, in my experience, the girls who will suddenly pay attention because of a uniform or ID card are usually the type most guys aren't too interested in knowing for more than a day or two.
And Oz, I'd skip ebay and go on Etsy for those buttons. They go ape over anything related to crafts, DIY or anything whatsoever that can be used for those purposes. You'd probably find a bigger audience there than anywhere else.
This discussion has been slightly one sided where it would have been interesting to switch around the genders and ask whether a woman in uniform makes a man swoon. Would it have the opposite effect? It would have been an interesting response! In retrospect, asking why women find men in uniforms attractive was almost like asking why men find Jennifer Connelly attractive. They just do.
In truth, when I go to War Museums where the full uniform is on display, I am fascinated but I do not swoon. The only time I did find myself being mesmerized was when I was standing in front of a real Avro Lancaster and could not stop staring. Maybe it was the painted yellow bombs on the side; maybe it was that big black cockpit. So I am going to make a quick nod to the massive machine that men in uniforms have controlled. I believe men and women can both agree that this behemoth is unquestionably swoon worthy.
I think with men it's a bit more hit or miss. With men, from the gender role perspective, even though you've got a lot more guys going against the stereotypes than before, I don't know that there's as many men looking for a woman with those symbols of authority. I think there's a definite social expectation factor in there, but also what it means to the individual for both sides. That, and the fact that damn near every female military uniform I've seen make a girl look like a librarian, and one more of the octogenarian rather than fetish persuasion. I swear, military uniform designers must have something against girls being attractive or comfortable. Dress blues are bad enough when you're a guy. The girls have it even worse.
Personally, any girl who can just rock a pair of jeans and regular cut t-shirt has my attention. Mainly because I appreciate someone who doesn't feel the need to get dressed up for the world, and all that sort of a lack of fashion concern entails. I've never quite understood the v-neck, tight shirts, yoga pants, or all the other types of clothes women seem to prefer that really seem primarily designed to showcase the body. It might just be me as a fairly large guy, but the idea of a skintight, clingy shirt does not seem like it'd be appealing to anyone.
I have yet to see the Lancaster in person. However, I have seen other planes. Namely the B52, the B2 Spirit and the F16 Fighting Falcon here at Andersen Air Force Base. All these craft are amazing up close, though I'll have to admit that if I saw the Lancaster in person I'd need help picking my jaw up off the floor…
Bravo1102 wrote:
What woman could resist this:
AH… nope. That there is Sean Bean, the ACTOR. :)
That's what I meant about "non-military" types who can look amazingly dashing in a uniform without actually being a soldier.
Sean's got a team of wardrobe experts, make-up artists, an expert stills photographer, director of photography and other specialists ensuring that he looks just exactly how he's supposed to appear in those shots. Not to mention the volume of shots they go through and pick from to get just the right look.
Those reenactors don't look nearly as good… if only they had a team behind them too :(
But yes, Sean does look good in his dolman.
Banes wrote:
Trippindicular!
Fantastic word!!!
lba wrote:
Etsy
Excellent suggestion!
For me the best female uniform is a white tank top… nothing else. Well, maybe a pair of army boots ^_^
- Modern US female formal uniforms aren't the best. They're just slightly tailored versions of male uniforms. Look at the Andrews sisters wearing a sexier version of the 1940s female uniforms. There are a lot of pics around of women wearing more attractive versions of the standard female 1940s uniforms.
Modern operational uniforms for men and women in most countries are just pyjamas… Practical but not worth considering in terms of style. It's straight out work wear. It's only interesting when you subvert it in various ways.
Kawai wrote:
Lancaster
When I was little I had an old catalogue filled up with lovely colour photos of the kinds of carefully painted, highly detailed models that Bravo makes- my fave things in it were the mysterious hussar model and his bizarre, unfathomable uniform… and the Lancaster
model.
It was highly detailed and very well painted.
I think the mixture of shapes that are clearly designed around an obvious purpose paired with the hih contrast of dark paint and bright yellow, red, and white accents for warning decals and markings is what makes it… these things engage the instinctual colour/shape parts of your thinking as well as the problem solving aspects as well in an appealing way.
My fave bomber was the B-17 Flying fortress… that's a common favourite I think, but it had a good mixture of spiky gunliness VS aerodynamic style…
My other WW2 big plane fave are the Catalina Flying boats, the ones with the two gun blisters towards the tail, they look like artistic, exotic insects.
lba wrote:
Personally, any girl who can just rock a pair of jeans and regular cut t-shirt has my attention.
change that girl to guy, and now you're talking.
I, for one, only think Miami Vice's Crockett could carry off the scruffy look – there's been way too many pretenders since then that just look unclean, and that's a major turn off for most women/girls I know. I'm betting that's why a guy in military uniform might be attactive: clean, trim, and cool. Note: NOT authoritarian. Biggest turn off for me are those short, white-haired (well coiffed they may be) men in $5K Armani suits. Those are about the biggest power-broking guys I can think of; they Buy authority and mold it to their own purposes.
It's the cool, the Confidence, that's probably the biggest turn on. That, and some nice shoulders. *sigh*
I'm like Banes. Something about the masculineness of a military uniform on a female figure and the bumps and shapes you just want to explore. Is that an MRE in your pocket or do you really have hips that can move like that… But I was a tanker. No female personnel in an armored battalion. But in the Canadian army… both their tanks had female crewmen.
There was an episode of Sharpe with a girl running aorund in a tight hussar outfit. It was quite the fashion back in the day.
Being a security guard some of the ridiculous situations about "this was the only size we had" for the female guards is funny. There was one who they stuck into a 16 shirt and 28 pants. The shirt was a tent and the pants skin tight. She just had to show me the safety pins on the pants. And then bending over, even with the top button closed you could see nearly to her belly button. I told her to put on the sweater and keep it on so as not to cause the seniors in the building a coronary. It was bad enough the regular receptionist was a Beyonce clone.
Then there was was this female cop who was a stunning blonde and police uniforms these days worn by the younger cops are tightly fitted like athletic outfits and have spandex in them. I found out later she was on watch over a corpse during my shift. Why didn't I go kep her company on that long cold night? Argh.
When I was in there always a few guys who could find a girl to pick up anywhere. And then there was the guys who'd make a pass at anything and fail. Then there was me. The silent guy who just wanted to enjoy his drink and egg on his pals and occasionally step in to stop fights or help someone to the bathroom to puke and then send him home. Though I once did wow a girl with my World War II British battledress. Which is exactly the opposite effect it had when an issue uniform according to all the accounts.
bombersAt last count I had at least one model of every RAF Bomber Command plane. I have four Lancasters, four Halifaxes, six Wellingtons, two Stirlings (no Stirling exists today) and so on. I have the built ones all over the house. I'm looking for someplace to put my modern Vulcan bomber when I finish it. There's one still flyng and that thing is impressive. A B-52 is a huge flying pig, but a Vulcan is just this gorgeous bird.
For modern bombers the US B1 and Russian TU-160 are very graceful, swan-like aeroplanes…
Just looking for B1 pics I found this bizzaro sexy lady anthro pic of a B1-B that'd probaly apeal to Lonnehart :D
http://zp92.deviantart.com/art/B1-B-Bomber-Girl-379679484
@ayes: I stole your idea for a still-alive-comics-thread!
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I just got a job as a research assistant for one of my favourite profs, which may involve a trip if a grant comes through. : )
I seem to just be getting more and more busy, but with increasingly awesome things.
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I am increasingly obsessed with Stromae recently. Understanding his lyrics is probably in like, the top 5 benefits of having done school in French.
Rainbow farting bears seemed like an improvement. I don't know why it reversed the image though.
I started a new strip, but the duck here doesn't seem to want to load the page to create a new comic. Not that the world so desperately needs to see perverted, hyper-violent robots making eye-sex with a microwave that I can't bear to not put it up on the duck. I'm pretty ok with leaving it on tumblr. They're disturbing enough to appreciate that more. I've attained a new type of laziness wherein I'm consistently and constantly cranking out new work, but have absolutely zero desire to do the normal marketing and promotion stuff you're always supposed to do.
I also met The Cake Boss today. He's a bit of a twinge. Really seems to think very highly of himself and his abilities and his "Italian-ness". It was pretty entertaining to watch him stumble through a conversation with my mom's friend who owns the Sicilian place next to the theatre. Every one of these reality stars I meet ( I'm not terribly far from the American Pickers and they get around the nearby states here. ) just seems to reinforce the idea that these people are only famous because they're psychopaths. Really charming and polite, but ungodly invested in themselves.
@hippie- that is awesome news! Working alongside professors for research gives you a whole new peek into their daily habits. I would warm up fastest to the ultra left-leaning professors.
@lba- I have been waiting for new comic updates from you since 2008! Remember when you used to update daily? Hopefully we can read it soon on here, but in the meantime, do you have a link to your tumblr?
Oh yeah, and Cake Boss- I bet all those Italian Chefs have some connection with the Mafia. While watching TV, my friends used to mute Emeril and make up mobster dialogue while he was slicing a fish.
The tumblr is fistfightingrobots.tumblr.com. I only have one strip and a couple doodles I've done up right now. I'm working on a big batch of strips to upload to get it started where there's enough to share with people but I'm just busy driving a lot right now and it's slow work. It's a little more mature than the last comic I did.
I want to do another community based one though. Kind of like the site Illustration Friday, but called "one panel story", the idea being that each week, I'd put together a little 1-2 paragraph story, that each participant would have to illustrate in it's entirety, using only one panel, no breaking it up or writing out the story beneath the panel. Everything in the story has to be at least alluded to in the page. I think it'd be a really cool way to keep those illustration and visual story-telling skills sharp.
Great. Thanks to a Cadillac commercial I'm now aware of a song called "Stacy's Mom". It's about a young boy's fascination(crush) with his female friend's mother.
I love the music, but the song is disturbing.
And at 14, I had no personal crushes. It was more like "she wants to crush me… and grind me into dust"….
Yeah… I was pretty fearful at 14 (thanks to my own mother)…. O_O
@Lonne–Wait, Stacy's Mom by Fountains of Wayne was released ten years ago in 2003. The video is just as inappropriate because it takes the lyrics literally and Stacy's Mom is actually a stripper. My guess is that ten years have passed so it is fair game to be used in commercials.
kawaiidaigakusei wrote:So it was that long ago? I only noticed the song because I like the music behind it. The lyrics are what I find disturbing…
@Lonne–Wait, Stacy's Mom by Fountains of Wayne was released ten years ago in 2003. The video is just as inappropriate because it takes the lyrics literally and Stacy's Mom is actually a stripper. My guess is that ten years have passed so it is fair game to be used in commercials.
I sometimes like listening to songs to decipher what the lyrics are talking about. Like maybe this song…
"Love is War" English cover performed by Joy Dreamer (Original performed by Vocaloid 01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc-WzsnB8GE
Near as I can tell, the girl singing is in love with a guy… who's with another girl. So the singer becomes determined to steal him from her rival?
time to go take some aspirin…. and something to cool my brain down. O_O
Lonnehart wrote:A movie was made about it too. I don't think it had anything to do with the song legally… They were just cashing in on the concept. It was low budget… Hahaha, I remember the plot now! The mum was actually a former porn star and their teacher actually worked with her in the old days. The boys (who are the film's proagonists) end up with a swag of porn feartung Stacy's mum, given by the teacher, and are satisfied enough with that to stop having a crush on her and start relating to girls of their own age group.
kawaiidaigakusei wrote:
@Lonne–Wait, Stacy's Mom by Fountains of Wayne was released ten years ago in 2003. The video is just as inappropriate because it takes the lyrics literally and Stacy's Mom is actually a stripper. My guess is that ten years have passed so it is fair game to be used in commercials.
So it was that long ago? I only noticed the song because I like the music behind it. The lyrics are what I find disturbing…
I sometimes like listening to songs to decipher what the lyrics are talking about. Like maybe this song…
"Love is War" English cover performed by Joy Dreamer (Original performed by Vocaloid 01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc-WzsnB8GE
Near as I can tell, the girl singing is in love with a guy… who's with another girl. So the singer becomes determined to steal him from her rival?
time to go take some aspirin…. and something to cool my brain down. O_O
Or something…?
It wasn't a very good film. The best part was the cover.
I loved that song though. :)
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