Glad to see you guys are really getting into this whole ageism thing! I do think as you get older, whatever negative traits you may have tend to become more obvious. You probably just stop caring what anybody else thinks whereas when you're younger, there's more of a desire to find your place and fit it. That's over generalising of course.
As for the whole dominant matriarch thing, I'm pretty sure that's some kind of biological, evolutionary response to our dim and distant past. Once we're past working age, men have outlived their usefulness. Having said that, some of us never achieve usefulness.
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Ironscarf wrote:Ah but men never become unable to breed. So as long as they have females willing to care for them they can continue to add members to the tribe. On the other hand just what is a woman useful for after menopause? What evoltutionary niche does that process fill? With all these matriarchies maybe that of clan head?
As for the whole dominant matriarch thing, I'm pretty sure that's some kind of biological, evolutionary response to our dim and distant past. Once we're past working age, men have outlived their usefulness. Having said that, some of us never achieve usefulness.
One author suggested that grandmothers are necessary to care for the children while the younger females are pregnant or go out to gather food. Human children do take forever to mature and maybe an older female would be the den mother while the fertile ones were pregnant. Then that alpha female got to clan head behind that alpha male. Now she wouldn't be of the most effective of leaders if pregnant so there developed menopause?
Human sexual evolutin involves a lot of specific traits and behaviors. I mean why do human among all the primates females have such noticable breasts? They're huge and so obvious in comparison with other primates and the human back definitely hasn't evolved to handle the top-heaviness. Heck the human spine still struggles along with the whole walking upright thing. That's why back problems are so endemic among humans, humans simply weren't designed to walk upright. And it sucks more because our limbs have adjusted in size so going on all fours isn't practical. But then the breasts would hang down like huge pendulums so in all liklihood large human breasts came after walking upright. Yep early human female throw those shoulders back and show'em what you got.
No wonder those "venus" figurines are all boob and bloated (pregnant?) tummy. Just what are you saying there early humans? Objectifying females already? But then men are just huge erect phallic shapes so maybe it cuts both ways. Um, please don't say cut when referring to the phallus. ;-)
I guess I'll be using my flashlight tonight. Halloween night. I've been asked to look out for weirdo creeps following the kids around during their time out. But most likely I'm gonna be looking out for people who are in costume… drunk, intoxicated, or otherwise (because my shift begins at 10pm and it's unlikely any trick or treaters will be around where I'm at).
Meopause- As men and women age infant mortality and birth probles increase, so menopause is useful in putting an end to that issue and diroverting resources away from all that sexual infrastructure.
The men will still have increase risk of producing sick babies though :(
Probably the older females were the clan heads, perhaps a number of them, if they could tollerate each other.
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At what age is someone "too old" to go trick-or-treating?
Halloween is tonight and it makes me think back to the last time I went door to door asking for candy. The last time I went was when I was seventeen years old (I thought I was pushing it then!). But now I have friends in their thirties who want to go trick-or-treating. Honestly, I feel like this could only end awkwardly without a kid. Similar to carnival rides and jump houses made for children, the only socially acceptable time to go trick-or-treating as an adult is when toting around a small child as an excuse. I even thought about pushing around a baby carriage filled with a bag of potatoes and pointing to it if the neighbors give weird looks. Still, I know there is an age appropriate time when a kid is allowed to ask for free candy (12 and under). Any age above that should have the ability to purchase their own candy.
Over the last ten years, I have experienced all sorts of Adult Halloween themed parties. Adults get really into the dress up part with innapropriate current event or sexy-(insert name here) costumes. I guess I am just longing for the days that Halloween meant trick-or-treating and was not about dressing like a Sexy-ebolavirus parasite. For me, the ideal costume has always been the ghost made out of a white sheet and cut out eyeholes like Charlie Brown. It seems like a horrible waste of a good sheet, though.
I think I remember "Trick or Treating"… once or twice? My mother was against us going out at night in costume. She was VERY overprotective of us. We only managed to go out those few times because our father wasn't working that night.
Now my sister and youngest brother take their kids out for Halloween. Possibly as an excuse to go themselves but at the same time to personally protect the kids. And they only go to places that are "designated" for the activity, such as the mall or certain condo type areas.
Alright, I decided that the best way to dress up without being completely awkward was to dress in costume WHILE handing out Halloween candy. I love living in the suburbs. I never lived in an apartment with enough kids to trick-or-treat in Los Angeles, so I have been missing the candy and costume part of Halloween.
Here is what I learned this year:
- I am now easily closer in age to the parents because some were wearing adult sized teenage mutant ninja turtle suits.
- Parents who drink wine out of a wine glass while taking their kids around the neighborhood look like a posh lush.
- I treat older teenagers with even more respect because it takes balls to dress up and go door to door. I asked for candy preferences and gave double the amount. I was met with shocked reactions and gracious thanks.
- Adults who take their fifteen month old out for candy are not fooling anyone. I know exactly who will be eating the candy and I bet it is not that toddler in a cute costume who still has yet to say its first words.
- I give repeat offenders (double treaters) more candy because they are doing twice the work.
All in all, I think the older one gets, the more exciting Halloween becomes as a holiday. Still, I am just glad to be miles away from all those "slutty" style costumes and streets soaked with the smell of beer and urine.
I worked on Halloween.
Here's a great Halloween idea that tickled me to no end when I saw it last year. Might be fun to do some year…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=995I68XugNs
kawaiidaigakusei wrote:
Alright, I decided that the best way to dress up without being completely awkward was to dress in costume WHILE handing out Halloween candy. I love living in the suburbs. I never lived in an apartment with enough kids to trick-or-treat in Los Angeles, so I have been missing the candy and costume part of Halloween.
Here is what I learned this year:
- I am now easily closer in age to the parents because some were wearing adult sized teenage mutant ninja turtle suits.
- Parents who drink wine out of a wine glass while taking their kids around the neighborhood look like a posh lush.
- I treat older teenagers with even more respect because it takes balls to dress up and go door to door. I asked for candy preferences and gave double the amount. I was met with shocked reactions and gracious thanks.
- Adults who take their fifteen month old out for candy are not fooling anyone. I know exactly who will be eating the candy and I bet it is not that toddler in a cute costume who still has yet to say its first words.
- I give repeat offenders (double treaters) more candy because they are doing twice the work.
All in all, I think the older one gets, the more exciting Halloween becomes as a holiday. Still, I am just glad to be miles away from all those "slutty" style costumes and streets soaked with the smell of beer and urine.
From the few pictures and all the text I've seen from you, I don't think you're the type to wear skimpy outfits or other such outfits on Halloween. And handing out candy while in costume is a great idea! I went out for Halloween… as a Security Guard.
Then again I was working that night…
So the site is losing one of its backbone employees. So the idiot-in-charge (I call him our fearful leader and everyone else just insults him continuously. He's really pathetic) decided to cross train all the guards from my post. So I got hit with a 12 hour shift with no forewarning. I don't count "hey there's a possiblity of you working a 12 hour to cover Spenser tomorrow adequate forewarning. I am working three 12-hour shifts in a row and then get to come in 8AM to 3PM and then turning aorund and coming in for that night.
The fearful leader knows better than to ask me because he knows I'd rip him a new one. He'll probably wait a week or so before talking to me because he knows I am a softy who easily forgives pathetic creatures such as himself. He did what he had to do, but at least he could have called. If there's no one else I'll doit. Besides I could use some overtime. But don't freeking kill me with it!
So I ranted and did the shift. I got home so tired every kid in New Jersey could have rung my doorbell pounded on the door and screamed bloody murder and I would have slept through it. Which is precisely what I did.
Got to see another tower come down at the refinery. They're demolishing it. It was one of the last refineries in the North East. Now there's nothing. Our terminal was the only one open after Sandy so trucks were backed up for miles so even without a refinery it can get busy. The former refinery looks like a wasteland from one of those post-apocolypitc movies. Before it looked all cool and abandoned and half falling apart and perfect for a creature feature, now it'd be great for mutants hiding out in the piles of rubble to kill poor unsuspecting survivors.
After working to exhaustion on Saturday the wife and I forgot all about Daylight Savings Time so we didn't set the clocks back. Hence I am typing this. I got up an hour early and didn't know it until I checked my cell phone. So I have some time for a cup of tea and some heavy sighs. I missed an update on the comic because of the work schedule and I'm more than 20 pages ahead in production but I've hit a snag with some action choreography. I might have taken about 50 pictures I won't be using at all.
That's super rough Bravo. When are you going to move up to be a supervisor? Or wouldn't you want that sort of job?
Halloween isn't a big thing here, but it's a LOT bigger now than when I was a kid. Back then it was just something you saw on American TV shows. These days people actually have halloween parties (although people will use any excuse to have a party), and some kids will trick or treat. That's still very uncommon thoughI spent that evening consoling a depressed friend, watching episodes of Modern Families and "Big Brother"… That's a pretty hardcore halloween!
I mean it.
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One thing I really dislike is "fashion".
I like clothes, I like style, I like things that flatter a figure.
"Fashion" is a little different though. It's about disposable styles that are created and marketed to sell a new season's crop of designs, in order to maintain a yearly turnover and encourage people to keep buying.
"Fashion" rarely equals "style". More often people are peer preasured into wearing ridiculous, ugly, unflattering garments simply to remain current.
Always the most stylish people are at complete variance with current fashion. They make their own style from theings that flatter them or that they love so much they make it look good and it becomes part of their character.
Welp, got through a meh first date tonight and can go back to my cats now. The guy revealed that he had actually seen me previously when I pitched my student group to one of his classes, which made sense because he had started flirting with me and asked me out like ridiculously quickly when I met him. I thought he was just incredibly forward. Anyway, he comes from a really troubled family background that I just don't want to get involved with. I feel badly about that, but I'm also like *nope*, I have paid my dues with crazy family members!
ozoneocean wrote:
One thing I really dislike is "fashion".
I like clothes, I like style, I like things that flatter a figure.
"Fashion" is a little different though. It's about disposable styles that are created and marketed to sell a new season's crop of designs, in order to maintain a yearly turnover and encourage people to keep buying.
"Fashion" rarely equals "style". More often people are peer preasured into wearing ridiculous, ugly, unflattering garments simply to remain current.
Always the most stylish people are at complete variance with current fashion. They make their own style from theings that flatter them or that they love so much they make it look good and it becomes part of their character.
I hate that you're only supposed to wear certain colours at certain times of the year - and there's an extra layer of that when you're a girl, because the same applies to makeup. My favourite colours are deep reds, navy blue, dark green, that kind of thing, which apparently I am supposed to wear exclusively in the fall. So generally I try to do all my clothes shopping in autumn. I demand the right to dress vaguely like a stylized old-timey army general all year round, darn it!
I'm also trying to find a teal dress for my sister's wedding (she's doing a mismatched bridesmaid dress thing) and it looks like I'll have to wait until super close to the event, because teal is not a winter colour. -_-
Build up a general wardrobe of classic styles and wear what you want when you want. The whole color thing is really passe these days and only effects when certain clothes are available. But you can wear them any time. My mom worked in woman's clothing for 40+ years classics and style, never fashion. There's the stuff you see onthe runway and then there's the stuff designed for people to wear and it seems never the twain shall meet. It's almost like designers throw up anythng just to see what'll stick.
It's another one of those paths not taken for me since I've always loved historical costume and clothing. Never quite learned to sew anything more than a button or a simple seam but I do know how patterns go together. I watched my mom sew for hours with patterns on the floor and needles in her mouth. Once upon a time one would make those classic styles yourself with McCall and Simplicity patterns. There was a book on costume in America that I must have taken out of the library 20 times in grade school.
It it was up to me I'd bring back long tailed coats, full waist coats and ruffled lace collars for men and women. Why not both sexes wear the same but just with different cuts and accessories. Look at a woman's suit versus man's and we're doing that already. A little more panache people.
Or dress like me in a ball cap, an Aloha shirt and camouflage pants.
You're Magnam PI Bravo :)
Sewing more than alterations or decoration is intimidating to me because there's still a LOT I don't understand about shaping clothes to the human body. Like everything, so much of the langauge used is hampered by jargon instead of clear descriptive terms about what the purpose of certain things are… Cooking is another great example of where things are hampered by foolishness:
A pinch of this, a pinch of that; special recipie; egg in this; salt in that, boil; caramalise; simmer…
When in actuallity cooking is fucking simple if you know the right flavours and what all the different types of ingeridients are really used for: binders, fillers, preservatives, taste enhancers, colour, texture etc.
Most recipieces are generic bullshit, the exact end result of which can be achived by all sorts of different ingredients in many different ways as long as you know HOW things work. -Which we were never taught in Home eccenomics class.
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@Hippie- yes, the trouble with fashion and colour is that it means the stuff you want in the colours you want just aren't available till the right season… The best thing is online shopping! When you've done enough research you should be able to buy some well fitting stuff in the colours and styles you want, much cheaper than in the shops.
And generally it's cheap enough that you can write off any disasters… -wrong sizes, wrong cut etc.
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It was the Melbourne Cup race today, the day all Australia stops what they're doing to watch the race, drink heavily and eat. For the first time ever I won first AND second place in the office pool! Funilly enough they were consecutive number: 4 and 5, and I wasn't going to put anymore money in because I already had two (11 and 22), but did anyway and picked those two numbers out last.
And I WON!
Only $38, but still a lot more than the $8 I put in.
ozoneocean wrote:L.L. Bean catalog. Year round perennial classics and all colors available all the time. Before I became Magnum P.I I lived in their clothing. Yuck preppie! Keep the collars down and eschew exclusive monograms on your chest and it's very comfy and you can sleep in it and wear it the next say and noone notices because rumpled is okay.
@Hippie- yes, the trouble with fashion and colour is that it means the stuff you want in the colours you want just aren't available till the right season… The best thing is online shopping!
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It was the Melbourne Cup race today, …
And I WON!
Only $38, but still a lot more than the $8 I put in.
@ozone: Any suggestions for online clothes shopping? I haven't found anywhere particularly cheap yet, but generally when I've bought clothes online it's from bigger/more established companies (topshop, modcloth, the bay etc.)
@bravo: I think the colour thing probably affects women's clothing more than men's, and makeup more than clothes. Compare the number of young women you see wearing dark lip colours in autumn and in spring/summer and you'll see what I mean. :)
HippieVan wrote:I do. But in fall for men you see muted sportswear, "deeps" "darks" and horrible earthtone ties. Everything becomes burgundy rather than red and ochre rather than yellow. Darks used to come in with the Fall line and ecru, yellow and pink with the Spring line. The style has changed to a large extent as bright ties and deply colored shirts are in all year round now.
@bravo: I think the colour thing probably affects women's clothing more than men's, and makeup more than clothes. Compare the number of young women you see wearing dark lip colours in autumn and in spring/summer and you'll see what I mean. :)
Used to be woe to the man who sought ecru or pink in the fall! Or conversely who wanted hunter green or burgundy in the Spring. Ever try to shop for wardrobe to go on a Caribbean cruise in October? Unless you go to Marshall's and haunt the clearance rack you ain't finding nothing.
The so called fashion treadmill is pretty awful, especially considering the poor folks who have to make this stuff are working for next to nothing and the name brands are profiting hugely from their plight. What's relatively cheap for us on the high street would probably be a months wages for a Chinese garment worker.
Decent clothes don't come cheap. You've either got to have the money, or the time and determination to track down good pre-owned items. I love a good suit, but a good suit is well beyond my means. The suits on the high street appear to be made out of the same fabric they use to make wetwipes.
@Hippie-
I'm no expert on where to get women's clothes, BUT, I've had a lot of success through E-bay. There are a lot of resellers who use it as an easy way to set-up shop and offer nicely priced stuff in mulltiple sizes, colours and styles form China and Korea for men and women.
China has decent quality stuff these days. Bad quality stuff tends to come from India at the moment generally, they seem to be moving on to that early stage of crappy mass production that countries all seem to go through, where quality control is almost non-existant.
The stuff offered ranges from standard items to pretty unique stuff- You can also buy it from sites like Alibaba Express http://www.alibaba.com/premium/express.html or http://www.aliexpress.com, which are where the Ebay sellers tend to get their inventory from, direct from the suppliers. Your local retailers will be buying that same stock actually.
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Scarf- if you want nicely made, well priced suits you can buy the fabric of your choice and have it made to your design. If you get it made in Bali it's quite cheap… but a long expensive plane trip for you guys in the Northern Hemisphere, I know… Though you could get similar prices in Turky, which is a lot closer and cheaper to get to. Just need an English speaking contact.
Today during my drive back home on an otherwise pleasant afternoon, some jerk in a collared white shirt driving the car behind me decided to flash me the bird as soon as I looked in my rearview mirror. Maybe he was upset that I counted two seconds at the stop sign. This was a nice way to dampen my good mood a few notches.
(￣^￣)ゞ
Oh wait, today started on a low note. The Republicans regained the Senate majority last night, which means it is time to break out the booze and drink to forget!
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On the topic of clothes, fashion, and colors:
I have purchased about half of my wardrobe online because of the sales and cute styles readily available online. I usually buy from Amazon and various chainstores. The important thing to look for is the sizing charts. Most of the time, actual sizing varies between countries. An (XL) in China could mean a (M) in the USA. Just have an idea of your bust/waist/hip measurements and get the best fit.
It is not so easy to purchase a formal dress online because of the sizing issue. Bridesmaid dress shopping could be easier, but the problems I have run into in the past were dress lengths too long that needed to be rehemmed.
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In breaking news: I have extended my wardrobe colors to include green tea green, turquoise, blue green, and light blue + grayscale. I will not combine them with my monochromatic yellow/orange clothing. Lately, my eye has been drawn to the green/blues of the spectrum because they are relaxing and emotionally calming. I think Autumn just has too many yellows and oranges that surrounding myself with the cooler colors balances the rest out.
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