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you also have Games Workshop acting like the GREEEEEEEDIEST company that has ever existed.
Hahaha! They have ALWAYS been like that XD
Absolute bastards LOL

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Topic for Saturday's Quackcast:
I'm doing some reading on manipulation of public opinion and the spread conspiracy theories in social media using bots and AI, for example: to spread CoVid-19 misinformation.

It turns out that it's not actually driven by misguided people debating online. People actually use AI and bots to spread that shit… It's deliberate.
I don't think there's any particular goal apart from social unrest and stoking resistance to authority. The only reason CoVid-19 is targeted is because it's an easy target. Nothing but low hanging fruit.

Out of all the misinformation stuff out there it simply trended better.

Social echo-chambers are largely a myth it turns out. It's AI curated information sources that are more at fault because we use systems like Google, Google news, Apple News, Twitter, Facebook, Apple etc all of which tailor stuff to what it thinks we're interested in.

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back in the day I used to argue politics, religion, and all kinds of crap with people online. even in these very forums {now lost to the ravages of time}

But I actually am afraid to touch this subject

I have my opinions and I talk with people in the real world but I won't get into it online. It's not worth it. there are certain people I just don't talk to because things have become so polarized.

We'll see how this all plays out if we survive.

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Use bots and AI so more time can be spent doing worthless "research". Having chased down a few famous conspiracy theories to their origins usually the research is an echo chamber with succeeding "researchers" merely parroting previous researchers as opposed to looking at primary sources of information. It's almost always the debunkers who go back to original sources and find out the quoted and requoted secondary sources are in error misrepresenting or putting things in that just aren't in the original sources. And everyone parrots it in an echo chamber of works and articles ad infinitum. Fun stuff.

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@Lothar - yup, that's a good instinct. Debate online has been skewed by the online environment, it's deliberately predisposed extremes.
And unfortunately is not just a case of "real world vs online world" because that dichotomy doesn't exist- there is ONLY the real world and "online" is just a form of communication used by it. :(

For things to improve the tech giants will all need to be regulated and stop curating what we see. And the use of AI and bots will need to be policed.
It's damaging discourse and has real world consequences- antivaxers and the spread of covid because of that is one, the invasion of the Capitol is another.

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@Bravo- interesting and ironic you should say that- From my readings I found that the social "echo-chamber" was actually largely a myth when it comes to guiding people's opinions. It's a folk theory, not supported by the research. But so many other papers and articles I read talked about it as if it was a basic fact.

"Echo-chamber" is still a very useful metaphor regardless and does apply to the way AI personalisation of web experience works so I still use it.

The relationship of writers quoting other writers with debunked studies could probably be better characterised as a human centipede, incest, or even a perpetual motion engine haha!

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Parrots because they often don't know what they're saying doing their copy and paste research. When the major source in the notes is ibid you know the research is mostly useless.

Centipede implies that they're adding something but most of the time it's just the same thing all over again. Copy and paste and paraphrasing bordering on plagiarism. And copy errors creep in and aren't corrected. It can be entertaining tracking reading it all and then reading the properly researched articles and videos that show the progression and often regression of the ideas.

And there's almost always Nazis. :D

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Invoking Nazis is always fraught XD

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Pronunciation, argh!
Some Americans have a thing with words like Horror and Mirror, where they pronounce them "horr" and "mere". That's cute more than anything though.

What I hate is fellow Australians pronouncing words badly. It's not an accent thing, just a stupid thing.
Year is "yeee"
Debut is "day-boo"
Water is "wadder"

I'll try to think up more XD

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There are so many accents on this island I wouldn't know where to begin. Where I grew up debut was pronounced "dare-byew" and where my dad grew up water was "watta!"

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Lie-berry for library. The wife especially hates this one. So after thirty years of marriage, I intentionally use it. ;)

Cal-var-ree or Cal-vary for cavalry. I mean the shorthand for cavalry is CAV not CAL how can you get it wrong? Calvary is a hill and often a church. Cavalry is a mounted combat arm. XD

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My fave hoity toity accent is:
"One likes to wonder arinde abite the hice rather than go ite."

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My fave hoity toity accent is:
"One likes to wonder arinde abite the hice rather than go ite."

Sounds like Katherine Hepburn and that patrician accent she had.

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Ozoneocean wrote:
My fave hoity toity accent is:
"One likes to wonder arinde abite the hice rather than go ite."

Sounds like Katherine Hepburn and that patrician accent she had.
Hoitier and toitier than even her haha!
I copied that that from Queen Elizabeth II

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Ozoneocean wrote:
My fave hoity toity accent is:
"One likes to wonder arinde abite the hice rather than go ite."

Sounds like Katherine Hepburn and that patrician accent she had.
Hoitier and toitier than even her haha!
I copied that that from Queen Elizabeth II

If you haven't, you have got to see the "queen" skits from the old Carol Burnett show. She nailed the accent. Hysterical stuff.
"Hell(tongue roof of mouth and flip forward)owe"

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Wow! 2021 has been a crazy year. I don't even know where to begin. So I published my debut comic "ORIGIN", on the DD. I was terrified to do this (publish a story from my head), but hey, I did it. I'm super grateful for the DD affording me the opportunity to publish my work. And a big thank you to those who have been reading my comic. I just can't believe I'm actually doing this. I've always wanted to draw comics since the first time I held one at a barber's shop when I was 3. This is a freaking dream come true. Thank you guys, for existing. And, oh, if you haven't given my comic a gander, here: https://next.theduckwebcomics.com/ORIGIN_by_David_Abiola_Olukoga/
Merry Christmas 🎄

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2021's nearly over (thankfully) but I just signed up here, having binned my old accounts from 10 - 14 years ago to start fresh and post stuff I've made in recent times. Having reinvented myself, I've also reinvented my art but am in no rush to post it up yet… Things have changed a lot since I was last here (though I see the site itself hasn't!), and forums just don't seem to be such a thing any more. Yet here we are, still using 'em, like it's still 2007. So 'hi' to anyone seeing this, and look forward to being a part of things again soon ;)

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2007 is good, just so long as it's not 1987. Talk about a year of poor personal decision making. XD

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MB Productions wrote:
2021's nearly over (thankfully) but I just signed up here, having binned my old accounts from 10 - 14 years ago to start fresh and post stuff I've made in recent times.

Welcome back to Web 1.0 - looking forward to seeing your wares.



1987 wasn't the best year it's true. I existed as a sort of jazz vampire, sleeping all day in a freezing Victorian terrace and only coming out to twang around in smoke choked venues after dark.

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2007 is good, just so long as it's not 1987. Talk about a year of poor personal decision making. XD
I was still at school, so not a good one for me either :D By the way is that an old BBI Cy Girl 'Sky' in your signature?

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MB Productions wrote:
2021's nearly over (thankfully) but I just signed up here, having binned my old accounts from 10 - 14 years ago to start fresh and post stuff I've made in recent times.

Welcome back to Web 1.0 - looking forward to seeing your wares.



1987 wasn't the best year it's true. I existed as a sort of jazz vampire, sleeping all day in a freezing Victorian terrace and only coming out to twang around in smoke choked venues after dark.
All of the above sounds quite familiar…except I was doing the vampire thing 10 years later… Currently polishing up a few strips and comics and wondering what to start off with.

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I don't post very much, and I spent most of this year in a mental hospital, but I figured I'd pop in again for old time's sake. I've spent the better part of three days making this, and while I'm sure I still need to do some mixing work, I figured I'd share what I have so far.

Reliquary (Rough Mix)

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2007 is good, just so long as it's not 1987. Talk about a year of poor personal decision making. XD
I was still at school, so not a good one for me either :D By the way is that an old BBI Cy Girl 'Sky' in your signature?
Yes. A bit customized and repainted but originally a BBI Cy girl "Sky". Repainted three others as her two sisters and her aunt.

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elektro wrote:
I don't post very much, and I spent most of this year in a mental hospital, but I figured I'd pop in again for old time's sake. I've spent the better part of three days making this, and while I'm sure I still need to do some mixing work, I figured I'd share what I have so far.

Reliquary (Rough Mix)
Welcome back!
Nice. Very late 1970s/early 1980s metal style to that man!

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Welcome back!
Nice. Very late 1970s/early 1980s metal style to that man!

Thanks. I'm still working out the levels, especially the vocals, but it's getting closer to a final mix. Despite experimenting with different styles over the last 5 years, I'll admit that rock is still part of my core. I only just recently got a guitar again, and it feels good to make another Buskers song. Lately, I have been making parody songs as a character of mine using karaoke backing tracks to sing over. Link below is the one that came out yesterday.

Gorab Singz Holiday Special

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bravo1102 wrote:
2007 is good, just so long as it's not 1987. Talk about a year of poor personal decision making. XD
I was still at school, so not a good one for me either :D By the way is that an old BBI Cy Girl 'Sky' in your signature?
Yes. A bit customized and repainted but originally a BBI Cy girl "Sky". Repainted three others as her two sisters and her aunt.
Cool…I bought a bunch of those 20 years ago, and carried on picking up the later Phicen and silicone bodied ones. I'm still not sure what to do with any of them, I keep making stop-motion animations but usually run out of steam, or else I get fed up with having an entire room filled with 1/6 scale sets and stuff…

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MB Productions wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:
MB Productions wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:
2007 is good, just so long as it's not 1987. Talk about a year of poor personal decision making. XD
I was still at school, so not a good one for me either :D By the way is that an old BBI Cy Girl 'Sky' in your signature?
Yes. A bit customized and repainted but originally a BBI Cy girl "Sky". Repainted three others as her two sisters and her aunt.
Cool…I bought a bunch of those 20 years ago, and carried on picking up the later Phicen and silicone bodied ones. I'm still not sure what to do with any of them, I keep making stop-motion animations but usually run out of steam, or else I get fed up with having an entire room filled with 1/6 scale sets and stuff…

With carpal tunnel and a bad elbow making it impossible to draw anymore, they're the cast of my webcomics. I don't have the patience to do stop motion animation either though doing some action scenes I am choreographing the whole sequence of movements, just not pausing to take pictures of them all.
I stick to the older, more posable figures as the seamless ones just cost too much and I was already heavily invested in the previous generation of figures to switch. Besides I know Photoshop enough to make any figure seamless with some careful editing. And that way I can still do some drawing and painting making the figures come to life, especially facial expressions.

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