Thread "What's So Bad About Webtoons?" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 12:10PM, Oct. 6, 2022

Ooh, the plot thickens!

To be fair, yeah, as I've said, he and I had discussed my ban privately, and I will commend him for being polite and professional about the entire situation, which is why I do partly have very little ill feelings about my ban . . . but at the same time, hearing through the grapevine since then about his tendancies to swing the banhammer willy-nilly makes it seem like a bullet I probably would've gotten for one reason or another eventually anyway.

I had no idea about the problems DD has been through - it almost sounds a lot like what ended up happening to Smack Jeeves, just . . . not as bad. I mean what happened to Smack Jeeves was just awful, so awful that the entire site as a whole just ended up completely dying altogether, and appears to have been replaced with a new host that seems like just another Tapas or Webtoons . . . at least The Duck still has its distinct identity, albeit with a name change (again, I do remember when it used to be Drunk Duck). Even in spite of the limitations it has now, I'm at least still greatful there's still so ability to customize the appearance of our comics - I don't think I would be 100% happy on a host where every comic has a uniformed and streamlined look to it.

Posted at 12:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

The renaming isn't so much a rebranding as the Duck realized he had a problem and went into treatment. He's several years sober and never been happier. 😉

Posted at 4:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

Ozoneocean wrote:

I'm glad you like it here man. I like to think of DD as the mature adult webcomic site.

I think this means we accept adult comics and the site has been around for a long time, not that the adults here can be expected to display any kind of maturity.

Posted at 5:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

Ironscarf wrote:
Ozoneocean wrote:

I'm glad you like it here man. I like to think of DD as the mature adult webcomic site.

I think this means we accept adult comics and the site has been around for a long time, not that the adults here can be expected to display any kind of maturity.

I have to project maturity and professionalism in my RL job if I want a steady paycheck and a positive work review.
What I do here requires none of that. Slap a mature rating on the comic and be as childish and infantile as I want. :P

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

I got banned at Comicfury over my comic, which contains a lot of very adult stuff, more than placing peg A into slot B.

Actually it goes a little deeper about that, I was talking about embracing my inner Koichi Ohata and go full on producing ranchy, terrible sex filled, gut spilling comics. I had a few people talking about how it sounds like a fun idea, or while it wasn't their thing they were okay with it being on there until somebody got offended and threw a hissy, said I was a very evil person and actually chased me across several sites like this one and deviantart, in turn everyone just turned on me on a dime and I got banned.

It was actually scary, I thought was going to get doxed.

Posted at 6:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

Furwerk studio wrote:
I got banned at Comicfury over my comic, which contains a lot of very adult stuff, more than placing peg A into slot B.

You mean a furry Death Porn? Drunk Duck already had that. Other adult comics on here that go that far too. That's why there's a "most deliciously offensive" award in the DD awards.

Posted at 8:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

bravo1102 wrote:
Furwerk studio wrote:
I got banned at Comicfury over my comic, which contains a lot of very adult stuff, more than placing peg A into slot B.

You mean a furry Death Porn? Drunk Duck already had that. Other adult comics on here that go that far too. That's why there's a "most deliciously offensive" award in the DD awards.

I have no idea what that term means, but basically my comic has incest, transgender transformation, homosexuality, heterosexuality, and does touch on some dark subjects like slavery and abuse in the character's background but never shown on screen.

In truth I kind of felt tame compared to a lot of OVAs from the 80's that inspire my stuff.

I did put up huge warnings on the page, in the post and such.

Posted at 8:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

Death Porn was a hugely popular comic here on the Duck that had explicit sex, parody and extreme violence. It was beloved of readers and its creator was a big advocate of free expression. So this site is about that. The site already has been about adult comics with mature themes. Hense, there is an award for most deliciously offensive in the awards! This site likes offensive.

You're not alone in wanting to do heavy stuff. I'm mainly a satirist but I have done a few heavy things and really disturbing images over the years. In fact I had a few readers drop off a comic I did before my CF ban because the violence was so extreme. Also got censured by the CF staff for the stance of some of characters about free expression just before I was permanently banned. I doubt any of the exploitation movies in Belle's Best would go over on CF. My stuff is more Go Nagai with some hentai thrown in and I have reined myself in recently. I discovered my pushing the envelope was merely doing what so many had done before. Lol.

Oh and those disturbing OVAs from the 1980s? I was among the first in the USA to see them back in the 1980s back when it was VHS tape exchange from Japan with no translations but synopses.

Posted at 8:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

Well, like I said, mine is an Everyone comic, and even like Ozoneocean pointed out, I at least tried to appeal to CF's admin about that and offered to stay off of the forum entirely of my own volition if I could at least continue to host my comic with them, as it broke no rules or guidelines (and even if it did contain anything such as language, violence, gore, or sex, I would have rated it accordingly), but apparently he wouldn't go for that. But even so, I didn't think such comics would be so problematic . . . I mean one author on CF has a "comic" that's literally nothing but sketch book pages with various depictions of sexual relations, including visible penetrations and such - it has hundreds of pages of such, and nobody seemed to have such a problem with it.

But, to reiterate, it was my immaturity on their forum that did me in, but after learning more about the admin's past, this really does put the entire situation into a whole new perspective for me.

Posted at 8:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

I wasn't immature but dreadfully uninformed and even hurtful with some of my posts about LBGT issues. This was so long ago Q+ hadn't been added yet. In fact I go back in LGBT rights to when it was just LGB and the T hadn't been added yet. But I still managed to be very insensitive even unknowingly repeating some homophobic and transphobic propaganda. Did a lot of soul searching and research to understand what I had done.
I still stand for free expression and taking on hate speech with direct confrontation and education as opposed to censorship. Over the years even put my money where my mouth is and spoke out directly. But these days with the stupid turned up so high we have real life flat earthers again. I pick and choose my battles. Even deleted my Twitter rather than get into another fight over Nazi symbolism. Just no more. I do have a comic on the Holocaust I'm planning. I'll shock people there with the stuff that people don't know about what happened.

Posted at 9:10AM, Oct. 7, 2022

bravo1102 wrote:
The renaming isn't so much a rebranding as the Duck realized he had a problem and went into treatment. He's several years sober and never been happier. 😉

Unfortunately, it was that problem that turned off a friend of mine who was looking for another site to host his comic on after he became fed up with how buggy and glitchy KeenSpace/ComicGenesis had become. That, and Jeeves's violent tendancies didn't exactly instill any confidence in him either.