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And yet, sweatpants are somehow still considered socially unacceptable to wear in public (but pajama pants are?!). . . .
Ha! Truly fashion follows different ebbs and flows around the world!
Almost no one wears tight jeans here anymore and leggings aren't common.
People WILL wear sweatpants in public and get away with it here though haha!

Tight jeans on ladies are fine. On men though… ugh, too much. Especially if it's a bigger guy- I don't mean chubby either, the worst ones are muscley guys in super tight jeans, it looks so horrible.

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Ozoneocean wrote:
J_Scarbrough wrote:
And yet, sweatpants are somehow still considered socially unacceptable to wear in public (but pajama pants are?!). . . .
Ha! Truly fashion follows different ebbs and flows around the world!
Almost no one wears tight jeans here anymore and leggings aren't common.
People WILL wear sweatpants in public and get away with it here though haha!

The cut and fabrication of sweat pants is imitating pajama pants so it is really hard to tell the difference beyond being labeled as such on the store shelf. The only thing is those silly patterns on pajama pants. Pajamas were normal college attire for morning classes. Same with food shopping back in the 1970s. You'd see house dresses (face it they were flannel night gowns!) And even pj's. Even saw footies (we called them Dr. Dentons) on one petite young mother who probably got some of her clothes in the boys' department. What do you do when you're below a size zero or it never fits right Or? Or can't stand the choices in Misses?

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"Remember where you are. This is Thunderdome. Death is listening, and will take the first man that screams."

Read that she passed away recently.

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Ugh. Why did Nostalgia Critic wait until long after his show went bad before he started reviewing movies he should've reviewed when his show used to be good?

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The cut and fabrication of sweat pants is imitating pajama pants so it is really hard to tell the difference beyond being labeled as such on the store shelf.
Really? In Australia that's very different- Pyjama pants are a different style from tracksuit pants. Pyjama have straight, wide legs with parallel sides and elastic and maybe a drawstring at the waist. And maybe a button fly for the mens style.
Traksuit trousers are made of thicker material, the legs taper to the ankles, with have elastic at the cuffs. They never have a button fly, they have elastic and a drawstring at the waist but also pockets at the hips. You couldn't use one pattern for the other.

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J_Scarbrough wrote:
Ugh. Why did Nostalgia Critic wait until long after his show went bad before he started reviewing movies he should've reviewed when his show used to be good?
That's what people do when they're past their prime XD

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I made a comment on some stupid Instagram reel about "Metal" and got so many likes and also critical comments XD
It's really annoying getting notifications about it.

It's also extremely funny that these people think that their hyper emotional whining, sad, angsty music is either "metal" or at all heavy. Sure, It might be what a 13 year old thinks of as heavy but to anyone older it's just embarrassing.

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Ozoneocean wrote:
bravo1102 wrote:

The cut and fabrication of sweat pants is imitating pajama pants so it is really hard to tell the difference beyond being labeled as such on the store shelf.
Really? In Australia that's very different- Pyjama pants are a different style from tracksuit pants. Pyjama have straight, wide legs with parallel sides and elastic and maybe a drawstring at the waist. And maybe a button fly for the mens style.
Traksuit trousers are made of thicker material, the legs taper to the ankles, with have elastic at the cuffs. They never have a button fly, they have elastic and a drawstring at the waist but also pockets at the hips. You couldn't use one pattern for the other.
Sweat pants increadingly don't have elastic cuffs or tapered legs, have flys and identical cut to the pajamas but in the heavier material. Identical in form and style but not fabric. And there's always been pajamas with tapering legs and elastic ankles. I used to sell them in men's basics as sleep attire.

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Sweat pants increadingly don't have elastic cuffs or tapered legs, have flys and identical cut to the pajamas but in the heavier material. Identical in form and style but not fabric. And there's always been pajamas with tapering legs and elastic ankles. I used to sell them in men's basics as sleep attire.
Maybe in the USA, sure, but in Australia they're pretty distinct

The tracksuit pants could double as PJs for lazy people though hahaha! They're soft, warm and comfy but extremely slovenly.
I got rid of any pairs I had back in the 90s and haven't owned or worn that style since.

Tradesmen and surfers (often the same people), will often wear them when its cold, especially when they're not working. Often paired with uggboots
They really are style-less and gross.

We call them "trackie-daks" as a sort of humorous pejorative. -"daks" meaning "underwear".

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People have no self respect these days, that's the issue. Walking around in clothes only fit for bed or the gym? When I were a lad people took pride in their appearance. Tartan bondage trousers, ripped Tshirts with carefully defaced pictures of the queen, orange and green hair stylishly spiked with toothpaste, a jaunty safety pin through the nose *sigh* what happened to standards?

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Sometimes I wear sweat pants to work, if my other ones are torn and I don't feel like spending an hour from my day off to go and look for other jeans in my size in some second-hand store. Aside from the shirts I print with anime references and to promote my comics, I'm almost at a Lebowski level of "cheap and don't care how it looks" and if it'd be allowed I'd probably wear actual PJs to work. Let's be honest here, aside from a rage room, wearing whatever the f you want to work would be living the dream.

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Sometimes I wear sweat pants to work
Oh you terrible grot! XD
If I was working from home then it'd be smart PJs and a beautiful silk dressing gown (I got a lovely red antique one last year), but at work I'm pretty smart- Smart black leather shoes (good Quality, got them re-soled twice so far), smart trousers tailored to just the right length, either a long sleeve fitted shirt or a tight black turtle neck depending in the season, and a reddish brown 1930s style leather jacket.

…Shorts and smart brown suede sneakers in summer.

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Tartan bondage trousers, ripped Tshirts with carefully defaced pictures of the queen, orange and green hair stylishly spiked with toothpaste, a jaunty safety pin through the nose *sigh* what happened to standards?
That look takes a LOT of work! Realistically it's a pretty high standard because of the effort that goes into it. :)
When I do model photography there are a few girls that dress in the old punk and goth styles. I'm always impressed by the attention to detail.

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I liked the first two TMNT movies. :)

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This is curious… I don't think I've ever see a real old west pic of a "cowboy" with a sword.
I'm sure they must be out there but obviously it was a pretty rare thing if it ever happened.

The US Cavalry used them, soldiers from the North and South used them during the Civil War, there are plenty of pics with Indian tribes-people with European sabres and even a Japanese katana or two…
Around the world at that time people still commonly used swords all over the place.
So I wonder why they weren't popular with cowboys?

It's not even something that crops up in real accounts or in ordinary cowboy fiction- of course it shows up in the fantasy stuff but that doesn't count for obvious reasons.

People DID commonly and FAMOUSLY use big hunting knives for duels and fighting so it's not that guns were just more popular and high tech.

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Might want to look into South and Central American cattle handlers. Almost all the North American techniques and equipment to even include the wide brimmed hats come from there.
On the big island of Hawaii went to a cowboy museum. When they introduced cattle there they actually didn't hire US ciwboys but gauchos from Argentina and Brazil because the terrain and conditions matched South America rather than Mexico or the US.
Lack of swords might have something to do with the use of lasso and whips but that's only a guess. Argentina and Brazil gauchos were elite cavalry in the South American revolutions and didn't have sabers because of their skill with bolas, ropes and whips.

I should also mention that the US cavalry did not issue sabers to the troopers in the West after the Civil War. They were impediments to operations and the weight and bulk was better used for ammunition. I have a couple books on the US cavalry. My old unit 102 armor is now back to being cavalry which it has not been since WW2. Gary Owen and all that. US cavalry (and armor commanders discretion) officers can wear spurs, stetsons and sabers in dress uniform. So I am part of the cavalry tradition.

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Might have some bearing…

bravo1102 wrote:
Lack of swords might have something to do with the use of lasso and whips but that's only a guess. Argentina and Brazil gauchos were elite cavalry in the South American revolutions and didn't have sabers because of their skill with bolas, ropes and whips.

Interestingly you know those swords I got you to sent me from that auction in New York? One of them actually originally came from Argentina! It's an Argentine cavalry sabre from the 1850s. -Designed and made in Prussia, based on an earlier British design, and made for export to Argentina :)

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I have a house I'm selling under contract and a house I'm buying under contract. It's going to be really expensive compared to what I'm used to, but it will be a good place to live. (It's not more expensive than rent; it's just really expensive to exist these days.) It's out in the countryside, not a big property, but one where I can get chickens again someday. (I gave all my chickens away to ease relocation.) I'm glad to not be house hunting any more. I hate it so much.

Still stressed out of my mind. And all my art stuff will be in storage until August. Maybe I'll get to comic again someday.

Moving in with my parents tomorrow. Then to an Airbnb, a cabin on a horse farm, to start my new job while waiting to close on my home.

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Not cool celebrating anyone's death.





I had to look him up, didn't know who he was.





We are all gonna die some day

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Not cool celebrating anyone's death.





I had to look him up, didn't know who he was.





We are all gonna die some day

Just about all of my LGBTQ+ friends have been acting like little kids opening presents on Christmas morning over his death (and during Pride Month no less - talk about poetic justice), and frankly, I don't blame them: this guy had been spreading anti-LGBTQ+ hate for just about his entire life, even likening the LGBTQ+ community to a mafia who were trying to take over the world and turn everybody gay . . . heh, I can even remember one time he was quoted as saying, "I am being dominated by homosexuals!" I'm sure the way he worded that completely escaped him, but that is such out-of-context gold that the mental images it supplies are absolutely hilarious!

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Pat Robertson was also against the criminalization of marijuana, believing it was a waste to lock up someone for 10 years for having an ounce of weed. He was a horrible person in a lot of other regards, but in that instance he was on the right side.

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Pat Robinson was an enemy of humanity. I would occasionally watch his show was I was into visions of the apocalypse and creationism. Had to know what the enemy is saying. He was one of big guns behind the religious right going back into the 1980s. But he's influenced so many others and fot every one of him that passes there are so many others spewing the same hateful antiscientific drivel.

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