Welp the next one will be another double-length that gets split up, haha. Oz and I really need to rein it in. This was a topic worth spending a lot of time on though!
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Introducing the DD Quackcast
With the talk of project wonderful you neglected to mention about the free advertising, or zero bids.
Granted it will only work on sites with no other bids and requires more work as they limit it to 2 days at a time but it can potentially pay off. You get your moneys worth anyway.
I think the new way of talking about features was pretty well done (except when Ozone hijacked the critique for Ponzi).
How do you decide what to talk about in these podcasts?
Advertising…?
I think for now I'll stick to the HELWID forums.
When I'm ready to plug again.
But man… Ozone knows his stuff.
Personaly I'd prefer that it was just an extra long episode. :(
But a shorter time between them is a better suggestion!
UH! You're just going to LEAVE us with that cliffhanger? Gosh, now i have to wait anxiously for part 2.LOL, advertising talks are exciting ^_^
With the talk of project wonderful you neglected to mention about the free advertising, or zero bids.Noted. In our defence though- We were covering so much that there were a lot of subtleties and aspects that we didn't get into unfortunately. -Like the length of campaigns, getting in when a bid is first opened up and grabbing that lowest bid position so when other bids run out you'll always be there, Positioning of ads on pages and how that makes a huge differences, how differing ad sizes perform etc.
But man… Ozone knows his stuff.Thank you! That's a great compliment! ^_^
I'm sure there's a few people out there that'd think I was a noob though :)
The free aspect is what drew me to PW, I have no desire to spend much of anything advertising my stuff as I don't think it is good enough to warrant the expense. When I do something i consider good enough I will use every tool at my disposal to sell it so this is going to come in handy.
There's nothing wrong with being thorough, guys. I can't wait for when you talk about how to make money off your webcomic. It's like you guys know exactly what I want to hear.
I know I probably say this every week, but another great podcast!
And Ozone, it's Newgrounds, not "Newsgrounds" XD
Going with what Bff satan said… 2 part quackcast might be better a couple of days apart rather than a week. That way you don't have to lessen time on featured comics and they remain a little more current.
These double-length ones have both involved quite a bit of extra effort on our parts (me for the interview, oz for this one) so I'm a bit relieved they decided to spread them across two updates. :] There might be some other issues with it, but it wouldn't hurt us to ask them.
I dunno why Oz said we'd have a podcast about how to make money off your webcomic, since I've never been able to do so and don't know how, and most other people don't know either. T____T If it were that straightforward everyone would be doing it. I feel like that is really more a topic for someplace like the Webcomics Weekly - you know, people who actually make a living with their webcomics. :] We've got no credibility in that respect.
These double-length ones have both involved quite a bit of extra effort on our partsYeah, that's quite evident.
I dunno why Oz said we'd have a podcast about how to make money off your webcomic, since I've never been able to do so and don't know how
Never mind. Guess this is one of those things I'll have to find out myself.
Thanks for another great quality podcast!
I dunno why Oz said we'd have a podcast about how to make money off your webcomic, since I've never been able to do so and don't know how, and most other people don't know either. T____T If it were that straightforward everyone would be doing it. I feel like that is really more a topic for someplace like the Webcomics Weekly - you know, people who actually make a living with their webcomics. :] We've got no credibility in that respect.Speak for ya-self crazy munkeelady. I made a few hundred off of mine when I was big on pushing the popularity stakes. ;)
There are many and various ways, but you MUST put the work in. It can be very hard work, or not too hard, depending on which road you go down. But yeah, we should totally do a bit of a feature on it ^_^
-It's one of those goals of popularity afterall. If we didn't talk about it, it's like talking about dating without ever getting to the relationship and the sex part- a bit unfinished ^_^
I know I'm a bit late to the boat on the reviewing thing, but hey, I'm catching up at my own slow pace.
Anyway, if you happen to be like me and are incredibly stubborn about your comic, and part of your brain starts listing off the locations of each knife in your house when you see a negative review, here's my tip on how to NOT make an ass of yourself and look like a jerk for the rest of eternity.
Ignore it. Not in the sense of "Oh well he said it's bad so he's wrong forever nyeh nyeh", but after you read it, don't reply. Don't do anything about it for a couple weeks. Keep making your comic, drinking slushees, whatever it is you do. Then, after you've had some time to calm down, come back and read it again. You'll be amazed.
What at first appeared to be a hateful basher, denouncing every single aspect of your comic, declaring you should be crucified, and being incredibly rude, will magically transform into a very helpful list of things to consider. Yes, even that photo he uploaded of his burning you in effigy has disappeared.
Usually people will perceive negativity as a personal attack, so when you take the time to reanalyze it, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Made me laugh. Speaking of community projects you should lead by example and get involved with some again…
So with that not so subtle hint out of the way, could I tempt an admin to illustrate a short story for lite bites?
http://www.drunkduck.com/Lite_bites/
Go on, you know you want to.
Made me laugh. Speaking of community projects you should lead by example and get involved with some again…
Haha, I was wondering if someone would call us out on that! Well, I run one but it's minimal work. :] Oz and I both participate in one-offs though! It's the time-investment ones that are a problem for me. I didn't draw anything for over a year and now I have trouble just doing three panels a week, so I think signing myself up for more than that would be trouble (for now anyway). It's also why I feel like I can't participate in Mafia properly any more. Not enough time.
We should look at lining up some more interviews, we'll have to think of a good theme that we could bring someone in for. :] Next couple weeks are kinda busy for me though at least… it has tended to take a couple weeks to line someone up.
The link was a bit hidden at the bottom there, but has anyone had a look at the summary of the quackcast topic in the tutorials section? Oz and I are thinking about making this a regular thing (on relevant topics) but it would be good to know if people think they're useful or whatever, before we put the time in. :]
You could ask people to do short reviews on the featured comics and send you scripts or sound files.
Or get the creators of featured comics in for interviews.
Or talk Harkovast into slipping you a few bucks for the chance to get in on the action and plug his comic a bit.
I think it's a consensus: Oz's go at "British" was Fun! I also liked the pro/con review of the features, tho they got a little long (for me)
As far as a community project plus potential quackcast, what do you think of a revamp of the voice contest?
It's based on an exchange btwn Same (A Reaver by any other name) and Oz in the moan and groan. Basically, A Reaver would provide a radio playcast (since it seems he might have one handy) for download, and then DDers would record a dialogue from it as an audition.
Auditions could be heard on the quackcast and then voted on. Winners would then record their entire character and through some kind of awesome magic yet unknown to me, the roles could be spliced together for a performance.
8D Simple, right?
The link was a bit hidden at the bottom there, but has anyone had a look at the summary of the quackcast topic in the tutorials section? Oz and I are thinking about making this a regular thing (on relevant topics) but it would be good to know if people think they're useful or whatever, before we put the time in. :]This is a great tutorial, you don't have to listen to the quackcast again to get all the info out of it (however i'd listen to this one again just to hear Ozone's british accent one more time). I think it works as am alternative to the podcast entirely (not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing). I think there are a few things mentioned here that weren't in the 'cast. The links were really helpful as well.
Having featured comic people on interviews is interesting, but they'd end up being delayed a number of weeks after their feature, unless we start planning farther in advance when features will happen (which… to be honest probably won't happen). I can't tell if you're suggesting this should be a regular thing or not. One-offs might work out but we wouldn't be able to manage it every week with every feature.
Actually I feel like that suggestion was made before… I'm sure I mentioned a mini-interview idea thing we had for the new site, for featured comics.
I think it's a consensus: Oz's go at "British" was Fun! I also liked the pro/con review of the features, tho they got a little long (for me)
As far as a community project plus potential quackcast, what do you think of a revamp of the voice contest?
This was the other downside to interviewing featured people, it's even more attention/time on the same comics. That was the other question I came in here to ask you all, which is "what do you think of the pros/cons format" - I'm still not entirely comfortable giving criticism to the features rather than talking them up, and it does seem like we're spending longer on them. But it's something people asked for, so it would be interesting to see if people actually like them or if they don't consider it a real difference. (Or if we're defeating the purpose of features by giving them points for improvement.) Or, whether an adapted format might work, like the crit-er just picks 3 main things to mention rather than trying to be more comprehensive?
re: the radioplaycast, anything Oz is working on is cool with me, I think he mentioned it before. :]
This is a great tutorial, you don't have to listen to the quackcast again to get all the info out of it (however i'd listen to this one again just to hear Ozone's british accent one more time). I think it works as am alternative to the podcast entirely (not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing). I think there are a few things mentioned here that weren't in the 'cast. The links were really helpful as well.Thanks. :] I think either format has its strengths, but yeah one worry was whether people would see it as a replacement for the podcast, which we don't want. On the other hand, there does seem to be a lot of useful info in some podcasts which it's hard to extract or reference, being in audio. So maybe we'll give that a few more weeks and see what the reaction is?
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