Oh…
I heard that tu was spanish for you, so I just kinda assumed et tu was Spanish…
Ugh, that ruins that theory then. >.<
Oh wait, used in betrayal? I remember seeing that the mafia members could kill each other. But I can't think of any possible reason as to why they'd kill each other so early in the game…
Okay, Skool made me think. We should probably just work on the one that we know the mafia did.
The first one was possibly the serial killer, but it could be the vigilante. Working out the clues would do the mafia's work for them. So perhaps we should just focus on the second one for now?
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Oh…
I heard that tu was spanish for you, so I just kinda assumed et tu was Spanish…
Ugh, that ruins that theory then. >.<
Oh wait, used in betrayal? I remember seeing that the mafia members could kill each other. But I can't think of any possible reason as to why they'd kill each other so early in the game…
I'm not sure if mafia members can kill each other or not, but there's no reason they'd want to (at this point in the game) other than to throw suspicion off one of themselves. However, that would only work if everyone knew what player that was. No one does. It doesn't say 'username was saved' it just says 'no one died'. None of the mafia are protected at night, so it makes no sense for them to send 2 killers after him, since one should have been able to do the job.
I suspect that IF 'et tu' is significant, it probably refers to a betrayal- someone the target thought was on their side (maybe someone who voted for them as mayor or something?). However- this one is tricky because if that is the case, then we'd need to know which player was targeted- which we don't unless they tell us. So it may not be a useful clue at this point.
Narrative Hints
- Look back at previous posts. In each part of the narrative, there is usually one or two bits of info that are synonymous with something that the killer said in earlier posts.
- Demeanor is also important. Usually, the victim and killer will express their feelings toward each other from earlier posts during the narrative.
- If you killed, but never posted, it's highly likely that your character wouldn't talk that much (if at all) in the narrative.
- Beware of red herrings! Not everything in the narrative may be a clue.
Narrative HintsWill avatars and profiles be part of the clue?
- Look back at previous posts. In each part of the narrative, there is usually one or two bits of info that are synonymous with something that the killer said in earlier posts.
- Demeanor is also important. Usually, the victim and killer will express their feelings toward each other from earlier posts during the narrative.
- If you killed, but never posted, it's highly likely that your character wouldn't talk that much (if at all) in the narrative.
- Beware of red herrings! Not everything in the narrative may be a clue.
Oh, and screennames?
If not I just wasted about 1 hour of my life going to everyone's profile. :(
Narrative HintsWill avatars and profiles be part of the clue?
- Look back at previous posts. In each part of the narrative, there is usually one or two bits of info that are synonymous with something that the killer said in earlier posts.
- Demeanor is also important. Usually, the victim and killer will express their feelings toward each other from earlier posts during the narrative.
- If you killed, but never posted, it's highly likely that your character wouldn't talk that much (if at all) in the narrative.
- Beware of red herrings! Not everything in the narrative may be a clue.
Oh, and screennames?
If not I just wasted about 1 hour of my life going to everyone's profile. :(
Sorry, but no.
I did it this way so I could obtain clues from people without a profile/signature/avatar. As for screen names, it would be difficult to incorporate them into a clue without making them look like a dead giveaway.
Okay then, I just have to look back through the thread for clues. Huh, I guess that's simple enough.
Thans for clearing that up.
I have now gone through this thread~
Okay, I think the throwing thing I mentioned is too vague to be a clue, although Waff did mention wanting to use the catapult. Catapult = Throwing?
As for food, Niccea mentioned they would've starved if Gullas hadn't have cannibal'd it up. She also mentioned Waff was low on food…
There was a part where Niccea said that Ochi was a traitor, so possibly the second hit person was Niccea, and Ochi is the ripper?
But, that's just one tiny small clue. It could point to anyone.
That's all I can think of. My brain is hurting now, and I hardly did anything. ):
heres my version of the attempted kill last night: mafia+vigalante targeted veteran who was protected by paramedic.Nope, the mafia and vigilante can't work together as far as I know. The second attacker left no clue other than that they sniped them, so it was probably the ripper and assassin. And I can find no clues about the rippper.
): we need someone good at this.
heres my version of the attempted kill last night: mafia+vigalante targeted veteran who was protected by paramedic.
The narrative tells us that it was the ripper (swords of osiris) and assassin ('assassin' and sniper rifle) who went after that target. (There is nothing stopping the vigilante from targeting someone the mafia has also targeted though- and remember, each godfather can invite one person to join the mafia- though I doubt they'll have used that yet.)
I want to repeat that it's a bad idea to try and figure out what role the target has- that's not important to us as townies, but is very important to the mafia. We'd be doing their work for them. They've already wasted 2 hits on that person, we'd like them to keep wasting hits trying to figure things out.
My gut feeling tells me that Hakoshen and Los might have banded together or that either one of them might be an mafia/serial killer/ vigilante thing…REVENGE!revenge?
Funny, because that's what I've been offering everyone who died unjustly in the first game. Only I don't plan to commit suicide to do so.
well I know one of the vigalantes killed last night.
Yes, he killed harkovast. Comparing the two narratives, Oz's planned killing sounds serial killer, and hark's lame brick sounds vigilante. The other vigilante didn't act, and the Ripper only used one of his kills.
How do you feel now, vigilante. T_T
If the clues are being drawn from actions and relationships in this thread, then we need to pay attention to:
Who Oz had a somewhat silly feud with BEFORE he was killed (I can think of redbaron off the top of my head, would need to reread the thread for more) - And then try to link up things in the narrative with things from the thread.
We don't want to try to figure out who killed Harkovast- since it's almost certain this was done by the vigilante, we don't want them exposed. That would just be handing the mafia their name on a platter.
Who Oz had a somewhat silly feud with BEFORE he was killed (I can think of redbaron off the top of my head, would need to reread the thread for more) - And then try to link up things in the narrative with things from the thread."'Twas the first night of the… night. The air was crisp and cool, yet also electrified with electricity."
Planes fly, and are electric. :o
Although I dunno if baron mentioned the fact that he's a plane in the thread, and only things in the tread count, so unless the plane-ness was mentioned, that clue doesn't refer to that.
And yes, Baron and Ozone did seem to have a disagreement.
There were the other two clues I thought of. The innocence of walking in the door, and the gazpacho. I don't know how they'd fit in with Baron, but right now, Baron's looking like a likely suspect…
I want to point out something:
"Paramedics may go to one house and attempt to save the life of someone they think may die in the night"
There's no distinction here between one hit on the target or multiple. It's possible that in Humorman's rules, the presence of the paramedic meant that anyone would have been saved from both hits, not just a person with a special role.
Ozone seemed to have feuds going with leaderofstars and the2ndredbaron. redbaron in particular has been acting cocky and saying he's invincible. however, the LoS-Oz thing DID pretty much boil down to 'you're dumb' 'no I'm not, you are' (because LoS gave away his role last game, but Oz ended up trusting a mafia). I'm focusing on those two for killing Oz, based on the rule that clues will come from in-thread conversation.
Edit: IN PARTICULAR:
From the clue:
"I'm not dumb! I planned this all along!"
From the thread:
"regardless do y'all want to know why i revealed my role in the last game?"
"after i was on the chopping block for being lynched, i revealed my role because i knew the mafia would put me on the top of the hit-list. i even pq'd a few people in hopes that one of them was mafia. oh how i begged the not to lynch me oh how i begged"
"its not called being gullible if you plan it"
OK, that does it for me. I'm voting to lynch leaderofstars.
Re-reading this whole thread is a huge chore. T_T I think I might have preferred profile based clues. Someone kill me so I don't have to do this again.
This is great, I didnt think things would be so detective like in this game!! :D
I'm writing down all these random notes to try figure out who could be who! XD I agree that Baron is highly suspect! Ozone was begging to be killed yesterday XD So maybe Ozone and Baron are masons (they knew each others roles/know each other? Thats what a mason is, right?) and Ozone planned with Baron to kill him, knowing that Baron was a serial killer?? …I dont know! >_<
I've never played this game before, so tell me if I've just made some bad theories that make no sense =_=
Edit: IN PARTICULAR:
From the clue:
"I'm not dumb! I planned this all along!"
From the thread:
"regardless do y'all want to know why i revealed my role in the last game?"
"after i was on the chopping block for being lynched, i revealed my role because i knew the mafia would put me on the top of the hit-list. i even pq'd a few people in hopes that one of them was mafia. oh how i begged the not to lynch me oh how i begged"
"its not called being gullible if you plan it"
OK, that does it for me. I'm voting to lynch leaderofstars.
Re-reading this whole thread is a huge chore. T_T I think I might have preferred profile based clues. Someone kill me so I don't have to do this again.
oooh you got a point there! 0_0
This is great, I didnt think things would be so detective like in this game!! :DWell, Masons' roles are that they know each other, and therefore can trust that they are not in the mafia, or are the serial killer.
I'm writing down all these random notes to try figure out who could be who! XD I agree that Baron is highly suspect! Ozone was begging to be killed yesterday XD So maybe Ozone and Baron are masons (they knew each others roles/know each other? Thats what a mason is, right?) and Ozone planned with Baron to kill him, knowing that Baron was a serial killer?? …I dont know! >_<
I've never played this game before, so tell me if I've just made some bad theories that make no sense =_=
They don't get secondary roles, so if Baron was the serial killer, he couldn't be the mason either.
Skool seems to be doing really good this time 'round. o_o If she's on the mafia again, we're screwed.
Ozone was begging to be killed yesterday
He was begging to be killed beacuse he was the jailkeeper. Getting killed would work for him because A: he didn't really want to play the game fully this time, and B: he knew none of us were that keen on the whole jail thing. Ozone dying did us a huge favor.
I've been re-reading this thread and I'm thinking that Ochi is acting really suspiciously. I'm not making an accusation yet, but here's what we've got from the thread:
Niccea runs for mayor. Then Ochi runs for mayor. Niccea is upset because they had previously agreed to not BOTH run for mayor.
Ochi starts insinuating that Niccea is the paranoid, based on information from private conversations - why would a townie want to reveal another townie's role like that, if it were true? A mafia would love to reveal people's roles in an effort to get confirmation or damage reputations. A mafia would also love to lie about people's roles to create confusion.
Ochi then decides to start campaigning to get Niccea lynched before she is even mayor! Her argument basically goes, "lynch niccea, I'm sure she's guilty. if she's innocent then you can lynch me next, but look, she was only the paranoid anyway and that's dangerous to have around."
If Ochi was a mafia, she KNEW she could SAFELY make that argument because she could get TWO people to try and kill someone the first night (ostensibly the paranoid). TWO PEOPLE, both mafia. It's just luck that the hit was thwarted, because of the paramedic. If Niccea was the target, (regardless of whether she is the paranoid or not), she would die before she ever came up for lynching- relieving Ochi of the person she'd already made suspicious, someone they couldn't easily hit later if their numbers were reduced, and no responsibility for having to lead a lynch (and thus risk her own position as mayor).
And then, as soon as the votes for mayor are in and Ochi has won, and night cycle begins, Ochi shushes right up about the whole mini-feud and hardly says anything at all (other than to defend herself against Hark a couple times). Possibly trying to get us to forget how much she wanted Niccea dead a couple days ago?
Anyway, I don't have any clues for that. But it struck me really strongly when re-reading the thread. I have experience with that kind of thing. lol!
If she's on the mafia again, we're screwed.I'm not. :] Although you're acting awfully disingenuous in this thread crocty…
I'm afraid I don't have much for the failed killing (for the Ripper)… the best bet is probably the 'bad things always happen to me' and 'what did you expect, the town is full of bad people' stuff. I can't think of anyone who was complaining about that much in the thread so far, and nothing jumped out at me when I was re-reading. Any ideas?
This may be my only post for the work day, but:
Gazpacho - originated in Spain
Red Baron - originated in Germany
Could be a connection based on both being European.
Gazpacho is cold. Pilots wear those heavy coats because it's cold up there.
There's also the fact that there was the dispute between the baron and Ozone.
I'm starting to think that the Baron really DID kill Ozone.
I'm not. :] Although you're acting awfully disingenuous in this thread crocty…In what way?
I'm afraid I don't have much for the failed killing (for the Ripper)… the best bet is probably the 'bad things always happen to me' and 'what did you expect, the town is full of bad people' stuff. I can't think of anyone who was complaining about that much in the thread so far, and nothing jumped out at me when I was re-reading. Any ideas?I think there's also the skipping part that is important, it doesn't seem like a normal thing to do, other than that, I can see nothing that is definitely a clue, so, the bad guy attitude and happy skipping thingy are probably what we need to be focusing on.
The two clues are almost opposites though, so it could be someone who had somehow completely changed in the thread, because, those two attitudes don't go together.
Although it might not be related to attitudes at all.
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