Thread "Rant, moan, rave and share - for all your chatter, natter, and wildebeest needs" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 10:06PM, Jun. 13, 2011

Humm, I just got a rather surprising critique on deviantart and now I'm debating whether or not to stop comicking all together.

Don't give up :(

I'd call that "user error" more than anything else. Lots of times people are just way too familiar with things to notice changes and alterations. It's not you, it's the reviewer.
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In part of my job I deal with clothing companies… Those guys just abuse clothing traditions.
-OK, "navy" blue isn't navy blue anymore, it's not nearly dark enough, but they still call ANY vaguely darking blue "navy".
-They use the word "pant" to describe a PAIR of PANTS (or "trousers" to you pommy buggers). "Pants" can be plural or singular, "pant" is something you might do when you breath. You morons.
-"Shirting" is NOT a word you use to describe your range of "shirts", it describes the fabric from which they are made.
-A "trench coat" is a long, light coat, generally with a fabric belt, long lapels, epaulettes, made with cotton etc- they have a distinctive theme. It is NOT a short waste length jacket with only a simple collar (no lapels), only one button and a basic tie belt without even a buckle… Don't call that a trenchcoat, it's barely a light robe. -_-

I try you for crimes against clothing and find you guilty!

Posted at 11:06PM, Jun. 13, 2011

I try you for crimes against clothing and find you guilty!

It's another victory for the fashion police!

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Humm, I just got a rather surprising critique on deviantart and now I'm debating whether or not to stop comicking all together

Awww Dodger! Don't give up, I'll be so pissed if you stop and I don't know what happens to Koji in the end! Changing characters and styles is part of growing as an artist, everyone does it, it would be stupid and boring if everyone kept the same and didn't improve or try new things. Don't let one bad comment (from a possible dickhole) stop you from making comics and doing what you love!

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I've had an idea for a story Comic kicking around inside my head for a while now, finally decided to sit down, write out the script and plans, and draw it. Wow. I have new found respect for people who write massive long story comics, because even drawing one page I was like: "Fuck this!" After just one pannel.

I have a feeling that if I continued I'd probably have no time to do anything else.

Posted at 1:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

In part of my job I deal with clothing companies… Those guys just abuse clothing traditions.
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I try you for crimes against clothing and find you guilty!

And ignorance is no excuse. As the great philosopher said "Read a book!"

I wish the navy blues in the USA were just a dark blue. All the navy blues here are so dark you can only tell it's blue by holding a pair of black socks next to them. I have a pair of black socks put aside for just this purpose.

I once had a knock down drag out verbal war with some English teacher about how to describe color. Saying you can't have a reddish maroon as opposed to a brownish maroon when maroon is already a specific color. Yes you can and no it isn't.

The only truly specific colors are those in design specifications given to a manufacturer and even they vary from lot to lot. Except Barbie Pink, but then Mattel is evil. Satan isn't red anymore, she's Barbie Pink.

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So I teased on my facebook page that I would put up a link to my comic. I got a slew of reponses insisting that I should do it. I put up the link and the silence is deafening.

Posted at 2:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

Humm, I just got a rather surprising critique on deviantart and now I'm debating whether or not to stop comicking all together. It wasn't anything I didn't know was wrong with my 'art' so much as what they had just noticed about certain characters that they thought was new, but has been something I've been drawing for years. I did something ELSE in the drawing completely differently, but the critic (who has been reading my comics since 2007) only noticed somethings that have been a constant in a few of my character designs for just as long, and praised me for it. Like "good job, everyone has different eye brow shapes, hair parts and eye shapes now!" when those have been something I've been trying to emphasize for a while.

And it sounds even worse when I paraphrase it. : |

I'm really mad at my stupid hands right now. I've known they create nothing but mediocrity for years, but I didn't think I was this bad off.

I saw the critique on your DA (hello i'm skullbie and i'm your friendly neighborhood e-stalker) and I think you are taking it way too hard. I mean wanting to delete your comic and chastising yourself for 'having too much fun'? Come on girl, your comic is nothing to be ashamed of. You're acting like you're the author of craving control or that weird furry comic where they shave eachothers armpits.

That critique was good though. I was expecting something really jerky but he knows what he's talking about. From the critique he linked the dresden codak guy and I found this image unintentionally funny:

Posted at 4:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

It's another victory for the fashion police!

We're like the Vegan Police in Scott Pilgrim, only less manly :(

I wish the navy blues in the USA were just a dark blue.

Traditional navy blue is basically black with a blue tinge. But there was an old practice of adding royal blue threads to navy material to create a hybrid colour: "junior navy". People started to think of THAT colour as "navy blue" and since then anything that's reasonably dark blue has been accepted as "navy".

So yeah, there is a pretty massive difference between real navy blue and modern navy blue, and I have seen people almost run into expensive mistakes when they haven't known the difference (like a big order of leather for custom wallets in a specific colour). But as you say with things like maroon it's more subtle. As you know the differences is Navy blues is like pink Vs scarlet.

funny pic

HA! I'd say they were both fashion concious… just the one on the right is less practical.
Ooooh yeah… knee high boots aren't practical for much except horse-riding or wading in a muddy field, REALLY crap to wear otherwise generally. And that plunging neckline on her over jacket thing is useful for…?
I like the clothes designs there anyway, and the expressions :)

Posted at 4:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

And that plunging neckline on her over jacket thing is useful for…?

+5 to dexterity.

Posted at 4:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

So the current plan is this:

For the big project, all art will be pencilled traditionally. Then, after the scan is made, there'll be some digital touchups, but not total inking. just clean up some lines that didn't erase properly.

I might also apply some textures/flat greys at this stage.

The goal: three pages of art a day!

But I need to get as many designs down before I start drawing as possible. Preferably all the characters that have been written in already + some spares for various monsters and the like.

When working on Din Krakatau, I could pencil up to 5 pages a day, so now that I'm better (or so I hope at least, haha) if I spend some more time on the art, I could keep up with three.

I'm kinda torn though: do I draw the three pages and end up with 21 pages thus enough for a weekly 20-page chapter…. and risk running out of buffer if some delays happen, say, the next job is 12 hour shifts again?
OR do I update bi-weekly and thus build a huge buffer pretty fast… and risk that it'll make me lazy and cause too many breaks and I will run out of buffer?

Second option would also allow me to work on other projects, but the first one would allow me to get this thing done in half the time.

I don't know!

Posted at 8:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

It's deep cleaning day – the day where I do those chores that I usually try and put off for a few months.

Cleaning out the van.
Mopping all the floors.
Shampooing the carpet.
Scrubbing the dog's kennel.
Cleaning the fridge.

UGH. HATE deep cleaning days. I'm so lazy. ):

Posted at 9:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

Cleaning out the van.

Careful. Last time I helped clean out my sister's van some living green slime mold jumped out at me. Thank goodness for conveniently placed flame throwers… :)

Posted at 10:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

stupid volcanic ash, spouting into the atmosphere and making summer suck balls… I honestly feel like it's the middle october or something, and I've got a cold which ultimately leads to dadadadadaramm cold sores (Herpes labialis) just belove my nose. And am seriously considering to post a picture of it in the picture thread <_<

Posted at 10:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

Cleaning out the van.

Haha… Get rid of that old, stinky mattress in there!

Vans are funny somehow… I think it's their vaguely sleazy/pervy reputation.

-Apart from Hippie-van of course! Obviously she's excluded from that.

Posted at 10:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

Hippie vans a she?

Posted at 11:06AM, Jun. 14, 2011

funny pic
HA! I'd say they were both fashion concious… just the one on the right is less practical.
Ooooh yeah… knee high boots aren't practical for much except horse-riding or wading in a muddy field, REALLY crap to wear otherwise generally. And that plunging neckline on her over jacket thing is useful for…?
I like the clothes designs there anyway, and the expressions :)

Exactly my thoughts lol. I mean I'm sure there's some gadgets in there but calling something so stylish 'purely for function' had me laughing. And knee high boots are sexy but oh god do not run in them -_- My ankle….

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Would anyone be interested in playing artists roulette? Basically you sign yourself up as a writer or artist(or both) and then get randomly assigned to another person to create a 4-20 page comic.

You would have a finite amount of time to complete the comic so it would kind of be like a challenge to see how fast you can meet the deadline. (1 week?) And then the stories would be put up online. It would mostly be for fun challenge and the experience of working with another writer/artist

Posted at 12:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

Would anyone be interested in playing artists roulette? Basically you sign yourself up as a writer or artist(or both) and then get randomly assigned to another person to create a 4-20 page comic.

You would have a finite amount of time to complete the comic so it would kind of be like a challenge to see how fast you can meet the deadline. (1 week?) And then the stories would be put up online. It would mostly be for fun challenge and the experience of working with another writer/artist

I would but only once august hits, moving soon so time is limited until then.

Posted at 2:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

4-20 pages is a pretty big spread, and that's potentially a lot of work to feel obligated to do. I'd suggest a smaller number as a maximum.

There was a project back at some point I participated in, can't remember the name… but yeah, you basically got paired up. But it was 5 pages max. I think most people averaged one or two pages a week. Not saying that's what you should do, just my experience from a similar project.

Posted at 2:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

4-20 pages is a pretty big spread, and that's potentially a lot of work to feel obligated to do. I'd suggest a smaller number as a maximum.

There was a project back at some point I participated in, can't remember the name… but yeah, you basically got paired up. But it was 5 pages max. I think most people averaged one or two pages a week. Not saying that's what you should do, just my experience from a similar project.

It would depend solely on what the writer/artist wanted, so if they wanted to do a 4,7,10,or 20 page script and draw it it would be totally up to them. It would mainly be like the 24 hour comic challenge but with a collab twist and time extension, so you wouldn't be obligated to put out super high quality work.

Posted at 2:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

I wish I knew how I managed to go to sleep last night without realising there was an eraser down my top. Somehow I did, and woke up this morning and eraser shoved between my boobs.

I think it was because I was drawing last night. But I still don't know how it managed to find itself in there, and then stay there… all night. o__O

I usually charge for that kind of thing.

Posted at 2:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

So I took a break…yeah…

Posted at 4:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

i don't mind manual labor. I would work construction if i had to. but when working construction and other manual labors, you know that quitting time is x. i have not known that for the last few days. go in working, and then when "quitting time" comes around, we keep working. jerks.

Posted at 5:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

People were absolutely Nuts on the roads today – to the point that I almost bet it was a full moon tonight.

and I would have lost the bet. it's tomorrow. can't WAIT to see what kind of lunacy will be out there tomorrow

Posted at 5:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

There's nothing quite better than getting a compliment on your work from someone you really respect. :) Although he does hate comics. Eh, you can't win 'em all.

Posted at 7:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

I might be interested in that collaboration project. I'd need more details though.

Posted at 8:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

You know what I hate? Being the awkward friend. Right now, I am the awkward friend, because a male friend of mine is "dating" (this is in quotations because they've only been to the movies together ONCE) a 15 year old in year nine, and basically, its really really creepy, and really really aswkward. They're sitting alone together right now, playing stupid hand games, and generally making the situation all the more awkward.

It is even more awkawrd when I found out they made out on the first date at the back of the movies during X-men Origins (I know right? How could they! X-men Origins was a good movie!) and they've only been "dating" a week.

Apparrently, I'm the only person who still thinks that you need to date at least a couple of times before getting to first base and believes that dating a 15 year old is wierd.

Posted at 8:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

Pops sold most of the grown chickens. It's weird getting feed for the ones we kept (spare kennel) since the big pen where we keep it is empty. In another week or so the chicks should be big enough to go in there.

:V

Posted at 8:06PM, Jun. 14, 2011

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Apparrently, I'm the only person who still thinks that you need to date at least a couple of times before getting to first base and believes that dating a 15 year old is wierd.

he must have bunted, and had to make a mad dash for first. and honestly as a teen, i can't remember not doing that…

"manmeat, what do you think second base is?"
"Marriage?"
"what about third and home?"
"I DON'T KNOW! Cricket only has 2 bases!"