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The Offical Mafia 4 Game Thread: Mafia 4, Mafia Harder!
Seriously people need to quite complaining. This is Baron's game, he wants to use blind voting, let him use blind voting. It adds an element of difficulty to the game so we can't immediately spot who the mafia is voting for, and makes the detective role that much more useful.
Although, honestly, I'm a bit confused. I see a mayoral tally, then a jump and night one ending with day 2 starting. Did I miss a post somewhere?
Yeah, Dukat raises a good point.
I mean, if people want to state who they're voting for, that's fine. It's just like when people choose to tell people their roles.
They're secret, but they can tell people anyway. =w=
And yes, the detective role does become more useful.
Anyway, I voted for Blitz now, just so you're all aware.
Seriously people need to quite complaining. This is Baron's game, he wants to use blind voting, let him use blind voting. It adds an element of difficulty to the game so we can't immediately spot who the mafia is voting for, and makes the detective role that much more useful.
Although, honestly, I'm a bit confused. I see a mayoral tally, then a jump and night one ending with day 2 starting. Did I miss a post somewhere?
the mafia using their random ability to do this
Look. I'm looking through the clues with you guys. Why would I be doing that if I was a mafia? While Hakoshen made a very good point tying me with the waff murder, he still admits that it's not fool proof. Why would he think I'm dead? I'm among the most active people here.
Apparently, two people have PQ,d Crocty about their theories, linking the same clues with Blitzkrieg. I hope both of those people vote for him.
BlitzkriegI don't see any connection with Blitz. That silly thing about the German name stuff is way too thin. His is a word for a type of war strategy and the other was the name of a famous film maker.
That's as flimsy as this idea I had about the Yorrick thing: I was discussing that with Nicea and I was thinking that Yorrick was a Dane because that's where the play is set, and that Iceland was ruled by the Danes until recently and I thought they might still speak Danish, so that could be a connection to you. And then she mentioned that Gullas was also an Icelander and I realised what a massive stretch the whole idea was lol! -So I can't really support that connection to either.
I still think the clue about the obvious product endorsement stuff is a huge connection to you PP. No stretching there.
Wait… you were trying to connect me to both murders?No. I just saw connections… That's what you do when you work out clues.
I don't know about that Waff thing. It could be a red herring. Can you see anyone else more connected to the murder?
I mean, it'd be REALLY, REALLY helpful to have people posting their reasoning up here, for Blitz as well. We don't want to kill innocent people for nothing.
Fine then. Blame me. My death shall prove my innocence and you'll be one townie down making it that much easier for the mafia to exterminate you all.
Edit: Also, sine you think your such a good detective, pointing your finger at an innocent man, why don't you look around to see if anyone else fits the clues.
I don't really think that Product is mafia, I have his role on my handy dandy excel table of suspects.
I'm actually pretty sure I have all the townies listed, except one…
I've listed the reasons I think that Blitz is mafioso, I know they might be longshots, but I think they're about as much as a longshot as the advertising clue…
EDIT: I feel so silly…Reading up on the Empire of Nicaea, trying to find out where the term "When the Cicadas Cry" comes from, and reading about Eduardo Gullas…
Just to find clues…
I don't really think that Product is mafia, I have his role on my handy dandy excel table of suspects.
I'm actually pretty sure I have all the townies listed, except one…
Well… as much as it pains me to say this (because I am a suspect at the moment) not everyone who's written you to inform you of their role might be telling the truth. I mean if they can prove to you that they are who they are (for example a pardoner telling you who he is and then proceeds to pardon someone) then he's telling you the truth but unless he uses his power, his words are the only thing backing him up. Also, anyone claiming to be a townie can easily be a mafia since they can't really prove it.
Also, anyone claiming to be a vigilante can be a mafia member in disguise since both types have the power to kill. That is unless he can inform you, in advance, whom he plans to kill and that individual turns out to be a mafia.
This is a fundamental flaw in having all the roles a secret because anyone can step out and claim to be the individual in question. We don't know who's the police captain, pardoner or paramedic and thus could accidentally lynch him/her. This of course protects them at the same time from mob hits if they wish to get rid of those individuals first.
Well yes, but in the last game, Hark said I could've proved I wasn't mafia by telling him my role. I could've easily lied, but I knew that it would eventually not add up. I've gotten no duplicates on roles yet, so that pretty much proves it, although most of the ones I know, have indeed proved themselves. (About 4 that are still alive…)
I don't see any reason for the mafia to send me a role without any prior reason, like me asking them for a role. In my opinion, risking pretending a role wouldn't be worth the risk…
So it's when the number of townies exceed the number of those that are alive is when you become suspicions. That's a good plan.
Everyone who's a townie with no special roles should contact Crocty.
So how many townies are there. The list says 8 but then goes on to say that two of them are a rival mafia members, who kill every three days and two of them are randoms. Does that mean that there are only four townies (which makes them technically 5 since one of the randoms is on our side)?
Edit. Man… that means we have to lynch 8 people. 5 mobsters, 2 rivals and one bad random. We can only get rid of one at a time through a lynch (twice once) + the vigilante can kill each night but we have to take into account friendly fires. They on the other hand can consistently kill two non members every day as long as they're not found out + two other guys can kill twice every three days + one of them (the mad bomber) autokills two more if he's found out. It's hard to be on the good side.
PP, Barron made it pretty obvious in the first clue that the killer was probably you, what with the blatant advertising and all.
So, is all the rest of this stuff an act because you're a mafia, or are you a vigilante that just goes after any old townie you feel like killing? Either way, it sounds pretty bad and you've done nothing to convince me you're not the killer.
PP, Barron made it pretty obvious in the first clue that the killer was probably you, what with the blatant advertising and all.As to the dead thing. Just before the narrative, PP posted up a picture of zombie…G…Um…wouldn't you think zombies were dead?
So, is all the rest of this stuff an act because you're a mafia, or are you a vigilante that just goes after any old townie you feel like killing? Either way, it sounds pretty bad and you've done nothing to convince me you're not the killer.
- Edit - Never mind. It seems that people attacked by the zombie are not instantly killed. Man I thought I had it…
-Edit2- And I don't care really on the blind voting thing. I didn't like it how Ozone attacked the people who voted to lynch him on the first game.
Well, you guys, realised something a few minutes ago.
It seems there are two main suspects, with two different clues for each of them.
Product Placement with his food related advertisements,
And Blitz with his German thingies.
I realised one of the police captains' abilities is to ask whether or not a clue points to a certain person.
So basically, I can ask the captain to ask about whether or not one of these two clues is true. I'm leaning towards asking about Products, because I do think he's innocent.
But that's why I'm posting here, which do you townies think?
(The captain can only ask about a clue once a day cycle, I think, so that's why I'm wondering which one to ask about…)
Ask about PP then, since he's top of the voting list. That's pretty obvious man.
If he's innocent then he really, really NEEDS something like that to help him, because there's nothing in the clues that will.
For the second suspect I'm just way too unsure. All I know is that at this stage we only have one lynch so we should try for the obvious one. If you can get it checked out that'd be fantastic :)
We can think more about the LESS obvious one as we go.
-Edit-
If you and him are mafia though, then you could just lie… hmm…
OK, this is only going to be workable if I decide to trust you. I mean, three times mafia in a row is pretty unlikely…
-Edit2- And I don't care really on the blind voting thing. I didn't like it how Ozone attacked the people who voted to lynch him on the first game.Well it WAS another way for me to work out who the mafia were…You being one of the cheif conspirators if I recall lol!
No offence meant and bygones are bygones, but the mafia WAS after me then and the voting was not only a great way to show who, but also helped me lobby for my own life and get my mafia accuser Skool lynched instead ;)
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