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The Offical Mafia 4 Game Thread: Mafia 4, Mafia Harder!

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My alternative avatars only stick around for a day or two. Just imagine my lovable sellout still hanging there if you need to ponder about avatar relations to the clues.

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Well I've heard nothing back from either of the people I asked about it, so I still think the Police Chief thing is where some lying is going on… And I don't know why and that worries me even more than the killings.

If we discover a link there, we should rather lynch him/her since we're so uncertain about the identity of the Waff killer. And Oz.. Don't you go arguing again that Hamlet happened in Denmark, Denmark used to own Iceland, ergo, I did it. :mad:
No, I wouldn't do that. That's what's been done to Blitz.

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As to Flapjack… I don't know. If Crocty really was Mafia, he wouldn't need an aid so he could just kill him off whenever he wanted… But that'd be insane. I know because that same accusation was made against me in the first game. ;)
I won't go into why it would be crazy again, it takes too long, but suffice to say it proves Cocty had nothing to do with that killing and if that's mafia then he isn't.

… I've forgotten all the clues about the Flapjack one, they weren't very clear…
If I remember there was the Yorrick thing from Hamlet and the "Undiscovered country" which was a ref to death in Hamlet, like I said before…
Hakoshen said something about a dead fool? … because Yorrik was dead in that play, and a fool.
But it also makes me think of Hamlet himself: an indecisive prince, the prototype emo-kid dressing all in black and always talking about how bad life is and how great it would be to kill the people he hates or kill himself, but never actually DOING it and pretending he's crazy and depressed all the time…

I'm really sorry Leaderofstars, but some of that does make me think a little bit of you.

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I'm really sorry Leaderofstars, but some of that does make me think a little bit of you.
In a traditional murder mystery. Leaderofstars would be the prime suspect for the waff killings since he threatened waff if he poked him again, who proceeded to continuing on poking him. However, that is a wrong murder since the clues from that case don't seem to point at him.

But basically as a reminder. The the Flapjack killings happened like this:
FlapJack1995 was busy getting the office ready for the town’s new mayor. “I got to make sure everything is nice and neat for my new boss!” He said. Suddenly there was a knock on the door. “Who could it be? It is so late.” As FlapJack1995 open the door a knife slide into him.
“Yorick.” Spoke the killer. “Tell them that I am coming.”
“But I don’t want to go to the undiscovered country!” Yelled FlapJack1995 before he collapsed on the floor.

FlapJack1995 the Mayor’s Aid is dead.

Now, my Hamlet is a bid rusty but was it ever known how Yorick died? Was he killed by someone and if so, by whom?

If we can find a conclusive link between this murder and a player, then we should focus on lynching him/her instead since blitz link is as flimsy(or more flimsy) then mine.

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He was just a random skull from my remembering.

Um…

"Alas, poor Yorick. I knew him well."

Then it leads into to popular.

"To be or not to be, that is the question."

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In a traditional murder mystery. Leaderofstars would be the prime suspect for the waff killings
Yeah, but I don't see him having ANYTHING at all to do with Waff, only you -_-

The the Flapjack killings happened like this:
FlapJack1995 was busy getting the office ready for the town’s new mayor. “I got to make sure everything is nice and neat for my new boss!” He said. Suddenly there was a knock on the door. “Who could it be? It is so late.” As FlapJack1995 open the door a knife slide into him.
“Yorick.” Spoke the killer. “Tell them that I am coming.”
“But I don’t want to go to the undiscovered country!” Yelled FlapJack1995 before he collapsed on the floor.

FlapJack1995 the Mayor’s Aid is dead.

Now, my Hamlet is a bid rusty but was it ever known how Yorick died? Was he killed by someone and if so, by whom?

If we can find a conclusive link between this murder and a player, then we should focus on lynching him/her instead since blitz link is as flimsy(or more flimsy) then mine.
As far as I can remember, Yorrik's death isn't mentioned. It's just assumed he died of old age, since he'd been around since Hamlet was a little kid. (used to carry Hamlet on his back and play with him).
The knife thing makes me think of Hamlet himself though again, or other Shakespearian characters since dieing by being stabbed is one of the most comon deaths in his plays…

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He was just a random skull from my remembering.
Yeah.. That part I knew. I just never knew how he died.
Yeah, but I don't see him having ANYTHING at all to do with Waff, only you -_-
You're taking me too literally. I'm not trying to pin the waff murder on stars. As I said, in a traditional murder mystery… I even refuted the claim in the same post.

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Now, my Hamlet is a bid rusty but was it ever known how Yorick died? Was he killed by someone and if so, by whom?

he was killed by hamlet's uncle

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Claudius? Man that guy got around. So do you know why he did that?

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Claudius? Man that guy got around. So do you know why he did that?
less contenders for the throne

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Now, my Hamlet is a bid rusty but was it ever known how Yorick died? Was he killed by someone and if so, by whom?
he was killed by hamlet's uncle
No he wasn't. -_-
In the play the only person killed by Claudius was the old king Hamlet. And that was never explicit, it was just what Hamlet believed.

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Why would Yorick be a contender for the throne? He's just a jester.



Wait.. Yorick was the Jester of King Hamlet. Yorick was killed before King hamlet by the same man who wanted the throne.

In comparison, Flapjack is Crocty's Yorick, which mean that the same killer intends to kill Crocty next. The killer must have ran against Crocty during the elections.

No he wasn't. -_-
In the play the only person killed by Claudius was the old king Hamlet. And that was never explicit, it was just what Hamlet believed.
Hmm… Ok.. but man, that's a good comparison though.

Also, for that assumption to work, the killer may have known that Flapp was the Mayor's aid.

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Hm…
So, someone who wanted to be mayor, but wasn't?…
:o

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Yeah, it's a bad comparison because Claudius didn't kill Yorick…
It's a flight of fancy.

Besides, I'm sure ALL the mafia would want to kill Crocty anyway. …and Claudius is a minor character in that play. We may as well start bringing up Rosencrantz and Guildenstern and how they're a pair of tool and how Hamlet ends up getting them both killed as well… In fact Hamlet really is the prime killer in that play.

Hm…
So, someone who wanted to be mayor, but wasn't?…
:o
lol! Ok, that's going from the moronic false reasoning of people's badly understood ideas of the play, but if you want to accuse me of any of the deaths go ahead, I have absolutely NO concerns on that matter :)

Should we line up ALL the mayor candidates?

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Even if Yorick was not killed by Claudius, we need to look at this part:
“Yorick.” Spoke the killer. “Tell them that I am coming.”
What does that mean?

Ok, that's going from the moronic false reasoning of people's badly understood ideas of the play
:mad: Are you calling me a moron?

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Yeah, it's a bad comparison because Claudius didn't kill Yorick…
It's a flight of fancy.

Besides, I'm sure ALL the mafia would want to kill Crocty anyway. …and Claudius is a minor character in that play. We may as well start bringing up Rosencrantz and Guildenstern and how they're a pair of tool and how Hamlet ends up getting them both killed as well… In fact Hamlet really is the prime killer in that play.
I prefer the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.

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Also, keep in mind that some of the "flavor" text for the killings that is added is just flavor and some of the text might be misleading. I know this was true in the last game and will assume it's true in this game. After the 2nd night we should see some more focused clues.

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lets avoid lynching people on the first day
I'm inclined to this as well. We're nowhere nearly certain in figuring out who killed either person. Maybe if the clues are good enough in the next round can we figure out who both killers are and have a double lynch.

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Blitz still looks guilty to me, and the whole idea that the police chief is mafia involves such a complex web of lies on behalf of the mafia (and stupidity on the half of the real police chief) that it is frankly too silly to deal with.

Two suspects….PP and Blitz.
PP has been proved not guilty by the police chief….

Seems to make things pretty clear…..

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:mad: Are you calling me a moron?
only over the Claudius thing. :P
I prefer the play Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.
It's a nice variation. :)
Also, keep in mind that some of the "flavor" text
Exactly what I've been saying!

Can we postpone the lynchings?

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I agree. Crocty believes in the police cap. and I belief, based on his play so far, that Crocty is NOT mafia. Therefore, PP is cleared of the kills for today.

Blitz still looks guilty to me, and the whole idea that the police chief is mafia involves such a complex web of lies on behalf of the mafia (and stupidity on the half of the real police chief) that it is frankly too silly to deal with.

Two suspects….PP and Blitz.
PP has been proved not guilty by the police chief….

Seems to make things pretty clear…..

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:mad: Are you calling me a moron?
only over the Claudius thing. :P
I'm sorry but that's intolerably rude. I based that theory on what stars just said and I made it perfectly clear that I wasn't familiar with the death of Yorick.

I don't know how the hierarchy of insults work in Australia but doubting ones intellect is a bad one where I'm from. A punch in the face bad.

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