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Howdy people on the internet. I'd like to wish you all a wonderful valentine's day. Even those of you that believe that love does not exist. And those of you that believe that love is nothing but a chemical reaction in your brain, and therefore has no meaning at all. And those of you that believe that love is just a way to ensure that the species keeps procreating, and therefore has very little meaning. And those of you that believe that there is such a thing as fate, and believe that they have no control over whom they are meant to love, and therefore believe that their love has no meaning, because they have not ever made a decision regarding it. And those of you that believe that who you love is a choice, and that love is therefore nothing but a comparison of which partner is best, and therefore believe that love has no true meaning. And also those of you that believe that their love is all part of some god's plan, and therefore believe that they are nothing but a pawn, and that even though their love is important for some reason, they themselves are not.
 
I love valentine's day, because nothing is better than forcing concepts into small boxes. Valentine's should be the only day of the year that you show any kind of love, just like christmas is the only day of the year that you should show any kind of compassion, and new year's is the only day that you are allowed to think of the future. It's just so productive and creative to make sure that everything and everyone has a place, a little box, and that we all work hard to ensure that nobody ever thinks outside that box.
 
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Tips on buying a phone:
 
- Ask your friends which phone they like best.
- Play with their phones, make a call with their phones, test their phones.
- Buy the one you think is best.
 
I usually buy older products, phones of a few generations ago, cheap videogames, second hand books. This year I broke that pattern, and bought a pretty new phone, and I am not really regretting that yet. I guess there just isn't one right way to do things.

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Good call on phones Kroatz. Bad pun intended. But yes, good advice.
 
Good lurv definitions and comment on 'days' as well.
But I think that people do go outside the box naturally though for those concepts, it's just that they reserve the "grand guestures" for the "days"
 
Re: your love definitions, I'm one of those that sees it as a complex interplay with hormones and various chemicals in the brain, obviously as a way to ensure procreation and the continuation of the species; but it also has a lot of social and cultural layers overlayed on top of that as well to give us expectations for how things should go, we have specific cultural ways of interpreting and understanding certain signals and interactions… love is about a social bonding more than anything, so it definitely has a meaning in that regard.
 
"The power of love"
"love makes the world go round"
…and things of that nature.
Passion, lust, infatuation, obsession, sexual desire, caring, concern, protectiveness, etc. that's mainly about the social bonding of a pack/herd species (if it was just about procreation it'd be a far simpler process). There's not much "power" in it unless you're obsessed with the process of individual bonding ritual… though it does make for very strong bonds. That's it I suppose.
 
That's my Mr Spock take on it.
Now I need to go to bed dammit!

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tips on phones.  kroatz summed part up pretty well.  also, know what you need/want.  so many people spend an assload and get a superduper phone that has more processing power than they do, just because someone said it's cool.  GSMarena is pretty cool for getting the tech specs.   
Personally I have a Moto G.  its an excellent budget phone that has so far stood up to more rain, dropping and bouncing than any £500 phone I have had in the past.  What would I change? well the camera is rather low spec but everything else it solid. I've had the expensive phones and not used even a third of the features, I've had them break after a small drop within months.  Insurance isn't cost effective on them in my opinion, especially with Apple as the excess is always much higher.  So I buy a phone I can afford to replace every two months.  So far it has lasted 14 months…  touch wood.

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I have my Samsung Note 2. That's lasted me very well since I got it. It was very expensive at the time, but it's been worth it. It's one of the longest times I've used the same mobile phone, and definitely the longest I've had a smartphone for. It's getting a bit long in the tooth now though, but still pretty good.
I'm not sure what I'll replace it with when the time comes. At the moment I'm thinking something a touch smaller or thinner with a much beter camera.

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well there are plenty that fit the bill.  The notes are a good range.  
That seemed to have killed the conversation off.  
I've noticed some of the older users seem to be showing up again on DD, perhaps it is a sign that DD is finally getting on track again.  We just need to get active on these here forums again so that when newbies come a posting they feel alive. 

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Well said that man! Actually I think it was my fault for killing the conversation with the phone comparison thing.
 
Anyone here into Ouija boards?

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I was just talking about Ouija boards today, I am not particularly a
superstitious nor a religious person, but demonology scares the crap out
of me. My co worker asked me if I had/would ever use an Ouija board and
I said I have enough horror movies to know that opens the doors, no way
is that thing getting near me and have being haunted hahaha.

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Ironscarf wrote:
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Anyone here into Ouija boards?
 
I've always been curious about Ouija boards myself but, honestly, I have to believe making contacts would probably be easier with a phone.

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I saw an interesting ouija board experiment once, I can't remember the show now. They had the same group of people use the board three times. The first time, normally - they got answers that made sense. The second time, blindfolded - they continued to get answers that made sense. The third time, still blindfolded, they flipped the board around without having told the participants. When they used the board this time, they went to where "Yes" and "No" had been previously but weren't any more. The obvious conclusion is that the people themselves are moving the thingy around subconsciously/without knowing it.
 

 
@ashtree house: FYI quotes get kind of messed up on the forums. I find it way easier to just go into html editing and do it myself, like so:
 
{quote}{b}someone{/b}wrote:
Blah blah blah.
{/quote}
 
Replace {} with square brackets.
 

 
Remember those perfect boots I found? Romeo ate them.

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I'm in the preliminary stages of running a kickstarter and vying for steam greenlight…all my fears of failure are screaming at me, but i've got to put myself out there. I can't let these last few years end up with a couple thousand downloads of the game.

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go for it, and of course once stuff goes live let us know here so we can take a look see. 

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And then there was the psychic war over a ouija board that I was asked to arbitrate. 

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Ideomotor effect. :D
I think it's me that kills the forums.
 
All Sunday and yesterday especially my brain was MUSH! I was finding conversation really hard, sounding like a person with a brain injury- you know, when they get a bit of a humourless, robotic personality? I couldn't think in clever concepts. and I've been getting really tired.
Maybe I just haven't been eating enough?
Not brain dead now fortunately!
 
Did you know that Hyenas are related to cats? I didn't. Blew my mind!
Also mongooses and civits.
Bears, badgers and weasels are related to dogs… And a bit earler down the line they all have a comon ancestor with the cat line of course.
 
Also, contrary to popular myth, cats kills "humanely", dogs do not. Cays kill with a choking bite to the throat. Dogs rip their prey to shreads, typically disemboweling the creature to death. EVen though Hyenas are more closely related to cats, they kill like dogs do.
…I was really interested in Hyenas for some reason.

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I had always thought hyenas were related top dogs.  guess you learn something everyday.

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I have not had a cell phone since November 2012, so I have one less device to feel connected to. I still think flip phones are the easiest to use and they serve the purpose of dialing and receiving calls.
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My sister was gifted a Ouija board when we were both in elementary school and I feel that any type of "power object" with any sort of dark energy should not be given to children.
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I watched the SNL 40th Anniversary episode and the original cast members from the 1970s look like they are really getting up there in age. It is a shame that I was too young to watch the original cast. John Belushi seemed like he was a really funny cast member.

I think I laughed for a minute straight because they kept making a joke that Jon Lovitz had died and even added him to the "In Memorium" portion of the episode. It was morbid, but his reaction was, oh, so golden. I really miss his cartoon The Critic it was one of the most well-written animated shows that I have ever seen.
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I am finally getting started on the Better Call Saul series and the cinematography is so reminiscent of Vince Gilligan's other work that it is filling the hole that Breaking Bad left last year.

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Better call saul is excellent.  Recently ploughed through fargo, which was a fantastic series.

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Thanks for the intersting ouija board comments! I only recently learned this was once a more popular board game than monopoly, prior to all the horror movie tropes. My search to find if it was still freely available revealed that it is. I would want to own one of these, just because it's such an iconic item, but Mrs Scarf probably feels she's already had quite enough bad luck, being married to a starving cartoonist and so on.
The search did turn up some wonderful product reviews though, such as:
 
A Ouija Board will scream if you try to burn it. People who hear the
scream have less than thirty-six hours to live. There is only one proper
way to dispose of it: break the board into seven pieces, sprinkle it
with Holy Water then bury it.

 
What is neat about it, is that it seems like my
dead cat Mrs. Bickelsworth can actually talk to me from beyond the
grave, something she couldn't do in real life.

 
Lecherous spirits from the Ouija board will sometimes ask young women to
do rather . . . ah, odd things. Ignore them and always remember that
your Ouija partner (i.e. boyfriend) has nothing to do with this.

 
My daughter loves it. Just minutes after using it she and her brother
were able to summon the spirit of "Dick Butthead" who died in "Ass"
nearly 1000 years ago. He apparently has come back from the dead to
"kill evry1" and "poop".

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Ironscarf wrote:
 
My daughter loves it. Just minutes after using it she and her brother
were able to summon the spirit of "Dick Butthead" who died in "Ass"
nearly 1000 years ago. He apparently has come back from the dead to
"kill evry1" and "poop".
Yeah the dead come back to "poop" there are no free toilets in hell and even less toilet paper. 

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Those reviews are hillarious! ^_^
It's funny how our culture coalesces around those mythologies… With a grain of truth like the ideomotor effect a whole new magical thing is created.

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Ironscarf wrote:
 
A Ouija Board will scream if you try to burn it. People who hear the
scream have less than thirty-six hours to live. There is only one proper
way to dispose of it: break the board into seven pieces, sprinkle it
with Holy Water then bury it.

 
THIS. FOR ME.
hahahahhanothankyou

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Ouija Boards?  Can't say I have ever encountered them.  If I saw one the local Taotaomona (Guam's jungle spirits) would probably destroy them.   I don't think they like competition (you have to ask permission from them if you need to do anything in the jungle).

Hit a snag with a story I'm working with.  Maybe you military minded types can provide some insight.

Suppose an entire fleet of ships is stranded far away from home and have no coms with their home nation.  The fleet commander (who is an admiral) is not there.  During the ensuing battle with unknown enemies his second in command takes charge and manages to save the fleet.

Now there's a council with captains (all outranking said second in command) of every ship in the fleet.  They're all old, some were military war commanders way back when.  Others are military, but deal with things like manufacturing, agriculture, and freight.  My reasoning why they all would vote to give the lowly second in command officer a promotion to "Grand Admiral" and giving that person the mission to keep the fleet alive until they find home is because of how the battle with the uknown enemy was handled and how well that person managed the resources at hand afterward.

Now in real life in this situation, could this really be done?  Or would there be an ensuing power struggle to be dealt with first?

I know the story is mine to tell, but I don't want to do the "because the writer said so".  :)

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LOnne- Bravo would be best to answer that I think.
But for my take on this there are three approaches:
 
1. Generally you'd expect there to be contingincey plans for most command situations pretty clearly laid out already, most especially if the chief goes missing! So the organisation that results in that person in charge could have just been written down beforehand and put in a sealed envelope, and the other captains will just abide by that.
 
2. Higher comamnd levels are VERY political. Maybe all those jelous, ambitious captains decide to have that person in charge as a way of ensuring none of the others get that role? They'll consider the new commander as nothing but a puppet until they prove themselves over time.
 
3. You're talking about an expiditionary force I think? Something that doesn't have easy communication with home base, they're supposed to be able to be self sufficeint. SO that's more like ooooooollld style colonial fleets or privateer raiding fleets from hundreds of years ago.
In that case the person with the best political skill and strongest personality will dominate.
-Also it helps a LOT if they have muscle on their side. Like one of the older dominant captains is a strong ally who helps keep the others in line for the new commander.

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speaking from no "proper" knowledge on the subject I would imagine Ozone has it pretty nailed.  There would be a clear second in command, but what about going further down the ranks where it all becomes less clear cut? All those experienced captains vying for position, that could have rich story potential. 

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Better Call Saul is so damn good. I'm so glad this series exists!

Fargo was excellent, too - can't wait for the second season of that, which is apparently about the "Sioux Falls Murders" from 30 years earlier that kept being referenced throughout the show.

I haven't got a clue what's going on with Ouija Boards. I shared an apartment with two friends some years back. They got ahold of a Ouija and played with it pretty regularly. I remember protesting slightly, having heard that doors could be opened. But I didn't care that much; I wasn't superstitious.

We did some experiments to see if the Board could tell us what number was on a paper (when the holder of the paper wasn't touching the…pointer thing. It couldn't tell us). Anyway, we talked to a couple of "spirits".

I'm not sure what happened as a result. I don't know if it was completely imagination, or something otherworldly, or somewhere in between. But things got a little weird in that apartment after that.

- I wasn't scared or thinking much about the Ouija at all. I don't think I talked myself into being nervous. But I woke up in the middle of the night once or twice feeling like someone was in my room looking right at me.

- Things seemed to be moving during the night. I would wake up to find my calendar off the wall and across the room, or my keys in the wrong place. I was never sure if there was a mundane explanation…there certainly could have been.

- Once I was home alone and the air seemed to grow…I don't know….energized or something. It felt really weird. The hairs on the neck standing up and all that. Various clicks, creaks and thumps made me turn around on the couch to see what was going on. I finally checked the hall and the big broom closet near the door. Nothing there. It was a very tense, uncomfortable feeling.

I remember years later when I rented out an apartment in my house to tenants and they brought up Ouija Boards/spirits, I insisted they not use a Board in the house. Seems silly, I know…but imagination/the power of suggestion or not, I still wouldn't want to mess up the place where I live.

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