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I should try to join the Flat Earth Society… Among the things I've heard them say, all the NASA"s picture from space are fake. The Sun and the moon circle the Earth at a few hundred feet above… It's quite crazy!… I've found my people!

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irrevenant wrote:
As a matter of interest, how did he explain that we can fly around it or the photos of it from space? Or for that matter, time zones? 
Lonnehart wrote:
I think one Arab leader declared that the Earth IS flat.  His proof?  That gravity bends light, so the light that the Earth is radiating is being bent around by gravity making appear round. 

It's like denying that I hit you on the head with a hammer despite the big bruised depression on your head and the bloodied hammer in my hand… -_-
And the moment you try to argue with such a person about those things, they will deflect or ignore you.  Yeah… like with my hammer example where they'll ignore the pain and faintness they're feeling when they deny that I did not hit them with said hammer (despite all the witnesses and the bloody hammer in my hand)…

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Apparently the curvature of the earth you see from an airplane is due to the glass being like a fish eye lens. The video "proved" it by showing a curved wing through such a window.  Honestly if have some time to kill go on YouTube and watch some of the videos and read the comments. 

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I was reading one flat earth conspiracy book in an online sample. He kept appealing to "common sense" and casual observation as opposed to rigorous scientific study. I loved his insistence on parallax as if that proved anything. It is there just that the distances are so huge it can't be seen and it occurs over thousands of years. It's like their head can't comprehend anything bigger than their own little sandbox.

They don't realize that their system requires more complex movements to fit the math than the vast Copernican system.  So they dismiss the math as mumbo jumbo made to fool the gullible.  It's like debating  young earth creationists. Once you start going over the blessed simplicity of evolution and how it can't not be true the fingers go in the ears and they start repeating a mantra to keep their belief alive. 

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Ignorance is bliss as they say. The truth is a much more uncertain and worrying thing to look for. Speaking of which, I await Tuesday's re-emergence of on site stats with nervous expectation.

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You can see the curvature of the earth from the ground- anywhere that has a clear, flat horizon. Rivers, lakes, deserts and the ocean are best. No need for aeroplanes.
 
Obviously tall buildings and mountains make is easier but you don't need math to prove a round earth: it can be seen just as easily now as when prehistoric people first worked it out.
You can keep walking to a "new" horizon line each time and big things can be seen to reduce in size as they go over the horizon and get lower on the curve than you.
  
I'm guessing some of these people's problem is that they live in places with a lot of atmospheric moisture, or smog or, they have bad eyesight so can't see as far as the horizon.

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A modern flat earther would reply that earth is curved, but it is not a sphere.  As I  said in an earlier post, it is a hemisphere  like a bowl with a slight curve but not a sphere.  It is a firmament fixed in space with the heavens rotating above it with the Stars as points of light about the size of a basketball.  And the moon shines of its own light. Or so one school contends. But all agree that the surface is rounded so that there  is the illusion of a rounded horizon.

Since it is a bowl there could be an under side with the reverse curve.

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That doesn't work as a counter-explantion though because of the rim of the bowl, just like with the edge of any flat earth system. You don't even have to get near the edge for it not to work- the edge would still be visible from miles and miles away and would create effects in the atomosphere, the clouds, the sea, even the sun and the moon as you look THROUGH the atmosphere at them, that would be visible for hundreds of miles further.
 
It's like you said before- the flat systems involve massive complexity to make them work and explain them, unlike a spherical earth, which is why it's pretty hard to find people in the past who beleived in a flat earth.

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All you need is the shadow of the Earth on the moon during an eclipse. Even the Sumerians understood that 6000 years ago before the young earth Creationists have the world even being created.  ;-D

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Yesterday was an unusually windy day and while I was leaving work, I know I had a few folded bills in my pocket. There were at least five fives and a twenty dollar bill. When I got back to my car, I checked my pockets and two fives and the twenty were missing. I wanted to throw up. The wind had taken my cash away, which is the same thing that happens when I buy things on impulse.
 
So I brushed it off, drove home and told myself that money will come back to me in some other way, shape, or form. Then around midnight, a substitute job opened at my former high school and I am now able to earn back the money I lost. It still sucks, though. Thirty dollars is enough to fill my car up with gas for a week.

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Money disappears like that.  You never know where it goes.  Some people's money tends to hide in a bank for fear of being spent…

I wonder what would happen if I created the Fat Earth Society if only to poke fun at the Flat Earth Society…  Then again, such an orgnaization would offend a LOT of people.  Come to think of it, there's nothing you can do nowadays without offending some group.  Such as making a cute cat video or unboxing a game console.  Some group out there will have some strange reason why they're highly offended by such acts, and they'll demand that the offender be burnt at the stake…

Welcome to a world populated by the Internet…

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Common sense is overrated…
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Well that would explain why a lot of Australia is desert. The thing is common sense is anything but common. Instead develop critical thinking and problem solving skills and you will be far better served. You see through critical thinking you will understand the counter intuitive stuff that stymies typical "common sense"

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Well said bravo.

So…


Formatting should be better.

I'm just playing here. Bear with me.

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Could it be???

Could it be what?
Could it have worked?

Looks like it.

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tupapayon wrote:
Common sense is overrated…
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This reminds me of having to explain to a girl in high school why a boat could sail around the world without falling into space. She didn't understand, looking at the world as a sphere (and evidently misunderstanding gravity), why the boat wouldn't fall off at some point.

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Wait…so ozoneocean's claims that he has to crawl along the ceiling and then seatbelt himself into his living room chair are not true??

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Banes wrote:
Wait…so ozoneocean's claims that he has to crawl along the ceiling and then seatbelt himself into his living room chair are not true??

No it is true, but it's because ozone's body is 70% helium instead of 70% water like the rest of us.

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And 20% farts. The last 10% is undetermined.

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Honestly, I can not wait to test out the new coding fix where we do not need to work around paragraph line breaks in the forums. Thank YOU, Oz, for making that a priority fix, and Thank You Alexey (wherever you are) for making it happen!

Today I was a substitute teacher for a sixth grade Language Arts and Social Studies class at a middle school and a little boy made my day. You know those little kids with glasses that are too large for their face and a floppy, mushroom haircut? Well this student walks up to me and says, "Hello. You look REALLY nice!" And he kept saying that I looked like a nice teacher. This confirms that I have finally arrived. I am at an age where I am taken seriously by adults, they treat me like their equal and invite me to hangout. On the flipside, I am still seen as "cool" and "in the know" with the younger crowd because I still know what it is like to see the world through a young person's eyes. I also treat younger children with respect because everyone deserves to be treated with dignity. Today was amazing, and I have been substitute teaching for the last three days and it gets better each day!

Last Sunday, I was very upset about the wind blowing the money out of my pocket. However the following morning, I saw that several trees had been uprooted, it was hailing, and a few news stories were about trees that had collapsed on houses and one tree fell and killed a woman driving a car. Losing a life made losing money seem very insignificant. Anyway, I believe the wind has turned in my favor because when I arrived home that night, I had a job waiting for me this next day.

This is my schedule this week:

Monday: Substitute Special Ed (7:00 AM-2:20 PM), Tutor (3:25 PM- 6:00 PM)
Tuesday: Substitute Sixth Grade (7:00 AM-2:20 PM), Tutor (3:25 PM-6:00 PM)
Wednesday: Substitute Elementary School (8:15 AM-12:15 PM), Tutor (1:00 PM-4:00 PM), Babysit (4:00 PM - ?)
Thursday: Substitute Middle School Math (7:00 AM-2:20 PM), Tutor (3:25 PM-6:00 PM)
Friday through Sunday: LAS VEGAS!!!!

So, yes, I believe I have definitely earned the thirty dollars that the wind took back already. Life has been surreal lately, I think I have worked nonstop without any breaks for the last twenty one days. I even checked my calendar last month and it looked like I only had one day that I did not even need to do anything (but I probably had to do something that day anyway). I can not complain, I have three paying jobs, I enjoy each and every one of them. I like working with the students, I enjoy my coworkers and my bosses, and I feel appreciated and treated with respect from my peers and higher ups. Life could be way worse, and I know it. I just need to remember to breathe, eat, and sleep at least eight hours each night.

I am starting to understand the importance of a healthy work life balance and the secret of doing what I love so it does not feel like work at all.

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It has been a hell of a week for me. On Monday, I saw the managers all in a meeting with the head of HR, and I thought, 'That can't be good.' And then everyone on my campaign was scheduled for a meeting. 'Worse.' Let me add that my husband works at the same place and at the same campaign with me. They laid off about 75% of the campaign. My husband was spared.

But, since I'm a trainer, I am therefore in a different department and couldn't go the meetings the others went to. The operations manager wouldn't tell me anything. He said I had to speak to my manager first (she is in a different state.) My manager said she wouldn't tell us anything until Tuesday. You can imagine how Monday night was for me.

I had my meeting yesterday and it turns out that my manager is leaving and a new one would be taking her place. Because of this, everyone that is under her would be maintaining status quo until the new manager takes over.

So, I have now survived one of the most stressful 2 days of my life. Woo-hoo!

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@Kawaii, I would be dead of busyness! Damn! I hope you're earning a lot for all that work :D

GOD I LOVE THAT THE BROWSER SPELLCHECKER WORKS NOW!
But I still automatically go to insert a space in every blank line break…

@Niccea- What kind of campaign is that?


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Check your stats people! You can DO that shit now. First time since 2010 baby.

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Has the auto resizing function been removed? I had to shrink the images myself before uploading.

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You can't upload files over 1 meg- I think that code was always there but had been disabled by a bug. Since the site has had many of the bugs fixed that code has started working again. There should be a note of it on the page.

I think that with it in operation in lowers our hosting costs and also reduces the load on the server because it's not constantly doing image processing tasks. I'll try and get text put up about it.

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Oh man, I am having a super shitty week. I accidentally mentioned to my mom that we (my dad and little sister and I) are going on a big trip this summer, forgetting we hadn't told her about it yet. I instantly knew I had made a huge mistake, and it has brought on a whole wave of crazy. First I got an email from her demanding to know why I haven't been out to visit her, and then she texted me to tell me that a guy she used to work with has died (quite young) and that she might only have a few years left (she's only in her fifties). I ignored the email and just sent my condolences about her coworker, but I'm feeling pretty anxious about the whole thing.

I'm trying to keep my mind on school instead - stayed up late last night finishing a reading for a tutorial (one-on-one) course that I had today and then woke up early to get there for it. Arrived and the prof wasn't in his office…turned out he had forgotten about me. :/ And I've also got another prof who asked for some advice for one of his classes and then hasn't responded to the email that I spent quite a bit of time working on. I know he's very busy so I shouldn't feel too bad about it, buuuut I do.

I'm also feeling generally crappy about graduating right now. For the most part I've been excited to move away and do new things and everything, but as it's actually approaching I'm just not feeling ready to move on yet.



BUT! I'm very happy that PQs are working again. I often feel bad for not getting to them very quickly because I forget to check my inbox, so it'll be neat to be more on top of that.

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