The bad kind could be printing articles on how this will utterly ruin our economy, or how our children are not safe, and oh no it's literally the end of the world. It could be that the local scare tactics in Utah are far worse than everywhere else I've been, but it's getting pretty insane. Is it like this anywhere else, guys?Ok…. that's… a bit excessive.
News will come on and the guy will say "SWINE FLU MAY HAVE HIT ____, HOW YOUR FAMILY IS IN DANGER - TONIGHT AT 10!"
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First it was SARS... then BIRD FLU... now it's SWINE FLU!!!
The bad kind could be printing articles on how this will utterly ruin our economy, or how our children are not safe, and oh no it's literally the end of the world. It could be that the local scare tactics in Utah are far worse than everywhere else I've been, but it's getting pretty insane. Is it like this anywhere else, guys?Ok…. that's… a bit excessive.
News will come on and the guy will say "SWINE FLU MAY HAVE HIT ____, HOW YOUR FAMILY IS IN DANGER - TONIGHT AT 10!"
That is more or less what he said. I believe it was "Swine Flu in Utah, how your family is in danger, tonight at ten!"
About three days later I see a broadcast from Nevada where they said the Swine Flu will all but cripple our economy due to it lowering tourism, cause as we all know that is the one thing our country depends on.
I tell ya' if we dont get those Asains visiting our country we're doomed! Doomed I say!
My news medium has mentioned that 2-3 weeks where high number of the workforce is deadly ill will have a negative impact on the already weakened economy but they never go as far as to scream "we're doomed" Honestly I thought that the US news had grown out of stupid crap like that. Trying to scare people into watching your news is a dumb way to gain followers in my opinion.
Well I will admit that the news in Utah is much more into scaring the shit out of people than anywhere else I've been. I think it's all this sun here that just makes people in the Nevada, Utah, Arizona region borderline retarded. Same theory for Florida.
Just a hunch but I think the theory holds ground.
I've heard that as well. That's why I'm curious. And that's also what's so perplexing about it. The Spanish flue was just the same. Why young and healthy? It defies logic in my opinion. They should be the ones with the most resistance against stuff like that.There are three theories as to why the Spanish flu killed off the young and healthy… can't remember the other two, but one of them was that a healthy person's immune system kicks in so hard that their immune system is actually what kills them!
As far as I can tell from various reports so far, the 'kill-rate' of this virus is actually closer to 4%. The spanish flu of '19 was only 2%.
I hope this is just bigpharma trying to sell their way out of the recession and so hyping up the media, and not 'the-powers-that-be' attempting to thin down the population a bit.
I read on another forum a post by someone claiming to be mexican… he was saying that it is actually a lot worse than the various govts are making out. He reports hospitals overflowing, doctors and nurses refusing to work from fear, anti-virals not working and huge masses of people with the flu being turned away. He claims a majority of the population is sick and the death rate is actually much higher than claimed.
Stephen King's 'The Stand' anybody???
Are there any mexicans on this forum who could enlighten us?
West Nile anyone?
That's local for me. They went crazy with the pesticide spraying using stuff that you can't be outside when air-sprayed and massive fines for any standing water. I had to be very diligent with my pool cover. That seems to have gotten the incidence down significantly.
The same thing works on malaria and any other insect borne disease. Mosquito netting? Nope, DDT and draining wet lands.
As for H1N1, this too shall pass. It's not deadly enough and medicine has advanced a lot. Remember influenza helped wipe out the American Indians. Genetically American Indian stock is more susceptable to influenza. Mexicans have that ancestry. Oops, non-PC, indicating that a certain group is more susceptable to a disease because of their ancestry…
In 1918 you had a lot of people seriously mal-nourished and bodies under extreme stress due to the First World War. That had some small effect. Disease and war go together. It was not really until WWII that connection was overcome and then you had ethnic genocide.
To be honest, no one should even be worried about it, at least in the states. The only death in the states has been like, a baby or some little kid who's immune system isn't fully developed yet. Most people won't die from it unless they're really young or really old. One reason why it's become a big joke to everyone in the high schools, including me.
Swine Flu is the new hello, so say swine flu instead of hello.
Most people won't die from it unless they're really young or really old.Umm… lol!
The only reason that swine flu is considered a problem at all because it can kill ANYONE: young, fit, healthy, and strong individuals. Just as much as anybody else.
But they've cracked down on it nice and thoroughly, and it's because of THAT not the fact that it isn't serious that it probably won't cause us a problem.
It IS serious and could kill you, but the various health authorities around the world that are dealing with this problem are doing a good job. of it.
This attitude of "LOLZ it's nothing really" is as stupid as "Oh noes, we're all gonna die and teh pigs will take over!"
There are three theories as to why the Spanish flu killed off the young and healthy… can't remember the other two, but one of them was that a healthy person's immune system kicks in so hard that their immune system is actually what kills them!Oh right. I heard about that theory some time ago. Something about that the white blood cells break down the cell walls in your lung, causing it to fill with fluids. I'd forgotten about that.
Here's a useful site for finding out if you have swine flu: http://doihaveswineflu.org/
Here's a useful site for finding out if you have swine flu: http://doihaveswineflu.org/
am i going to die :(
What are you getting at? SARS didnt kill that many people. It's fatality rate was rather high compared to things like e-coli (whch carries at most a 5-7% death rate), but you're much more likely to die in a car crash than actually catch AND die of SARS.
between the months of November 2002 and July 2003, with 8,096 known infected cases and 774 deaths (a case-fatality rate of 9.6%)
vs.
“Motor vehicle crashes in the United States result in more than 40,000 deaths per year,” says the Institute in the journal Injury Prevention. “That is, on each of the 6,209 consecutive days included in this study, an equivalent of a plane load or more of people died on the roads.”
Despite the media harking on about how dangerous and wide spread these infectious diseases are (and granted they're still not something you want to catch), you have more odds of preventing them by taking good care of yourself and making sure to wash hands and avoid areas that may seem dirty or sell dirty foods than you would be able to prevent someone from t-boning your car and driving you off a cliff.
The government of Mexico is saying confirmed case of 81 dead. I have no reasons not to believe them.
I guess the difference is that all those other strains that kill thousands every year, aren't hyped up because they are exist everywhere, thus we're constantly exposed to them. They normally kill only the old and sick and that those deaths are spread across an entire nation and throughout the entire year. This new one is spreading relatively fast, makes young and healthy people very ill and has several kills under its belt in just few days in a relatively small area. Over 40.000 people die from car crashes every year, yet we get reports from pile ups.
It's a standard procedure for the WHO to raise an alarm so they can tackle a new player out there while it's manageable. It's that standard "better safe then sorry" policy that America is famous for following by heart. It may turn out to be one of those bad sniffles we get every 5 years or it could turn out to become the next big plague. In case of the latter I'd be happy to have a head start on it.
Exactly.
As annoying as the whooping over some new flu every few years is; it is muchbetter to be safe than sorry, in this case.
With the way this thing is spreading, I agree with this. Better to nip this in the bud before it gets any further.
Oh, and about that avatar… I'm gonna say "no" to tacos. The last time I ate a few I nearly caused the Universe to end with "The Big Rip"…
The government of Mexico is saying confirmed case of 81 dead. I have no reasons not to believe them.
I guess the difference is that all those other strains that kill thousands every year, aren't hyped up because they are exist everywhere, thus we're constantly exposed to them. They normally kill only the old and sick and that those deaths are spread across an entire nation and throughout the entire year. This new one is spreading relatively fast, makes young and healthy people very ill and has several kills under its belt in just few days in a relatively small area. Over 40.000 people die from car crashes every year, yet we get reports from pile ups.
It's a standard procedure for the WHO to raise an alarm so they can tackle a new player out there while it's manageable. It's that standard "better safe then sorry" policy that America is famous for following by heart. It may turn out to be one of those bad sniffles we get every 5 years or it could turn out to become the next big plague. In case of the latter I'd be happy to have a head start on it.
Exactly.
As annoying as the whooping over some new flu every few years is; it is muchbetter to be safe than sorry, in this case.
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