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Mafia VIII GM Elections
My whole reasoning behind it is once the vigilante is dead, the townies lose their only advantage. Given the paranoid can't control who he kills, he's as much a danger to the townies as mafia if his identity is unknown. Even if the townies figure out who the mob are, they can't do squat about it because the godfather just cancels the first lynch, and if they controls either the mafia or the pardoner, they usually win.
You give the townies one extra kill per night and they might take out one more mafia assuming they're lucky or know in advance, but the vigilante is still a threat to the townies as he might be unknowingly acting on the orders of his godfather mayor, or rolling a d20 and finding one innocent victim after the next.
So for the mafia in control of the town and unknown, a living vigilante is an advantage for them as much as the townies. It's only unfair to the mafia if they were foolish enough to come out or otherwise get found out.
This is why I suggested the idea of introducing "the innocent one" or "a model citizen" or "local champion" to the game. 1-3 people are given this title and it becomes publicly know to all that they're not mafia. These people are free to run for mayor or pardoner and people are free to vote for them or not. Naturally, these people will get a huge advantage if they do decide to run but the natural drawback is that they'd undoubtedly end up being priority targets for the mafia.
The character description would be that these are the people who become the public figures behind town rallies. They fight for the people, against corruption. They're your local Martin Luther King, Erin Brockovich and Nelson Mandela. It's considered impossible that these people have any criminal connections and thus are fully trusted by all.
By introducing individuals like these it would become harder for mafia to infiltrate the election due to the huge advantage that these people would get. This doesn't mean that these people are guarantied to win, if they run for election at all. Someone who people like and trust who doesn't carry that title may still win after all.
This is why I suggested the idea of introducing "the innocent one" or "a model citizen" or "local champion" to the game. 1-3 people are given this title and it becomes publicly know to all that they're not mafia. These people are free to run for mayor or pardoner and people are free to vote for them or not. Naturally, these people will get a huge advantage if they do decide to run but the natural drawback is that they'd undoubtedly end up being priority targets for the mafia.
The character description would be that these are the people who become the public figures behind town rallies. They fight for the people, against corruption. They're your local Martin Luther King, Erin Brockovich and Nelson Mandela. It's considered impossible that these people have any criminal connections and thus are fully trusted by all.
That might work in other games… but this is in Hark's head. MLK is a snow leapord with a flintlock rifle, Eirn Brockovich is a wolf with twin scimitars and Nelson Mandela is a claymore weilding badger. It's crazy in there.
The other thing about declared innocent people is it tightens the noose around the mafia from the getgo as there are fewer suspects. On the other hand, while they're guaranteed not to guilty, it also means they're guaranteed not to be able to kill anyone or do anything special, so the mob would probably leave them alone. That is unless these titles can be applied to townies with other roles, like medics or detectives.
The other thing about declared innocent people is it tightens the noose around the mafia from the getgo as there are fewer suspects. On the other hand, while they're guaranteed not to guilty, it also means they're guaranteed not to be able to kill anyone or do anything special, so the mob would probably leave them alone. That is unless these titles can be applied to townies with other roles, like medics or detectives.The innocence title could be given to anyone who's not a mafia, whether he's a doctor or a detective. That makes sense. However, I would draw the line to exclude anyone who can potentially kill. Vigilante and paranoid could not gain this title in my opinion. If it's only, say…. two people who are given the title of innocent, that would mean that only 10% of the entire population of 20 has been cleared. That's not so bad. We can also try giving only one person the title as an experiment.
Who knows, maybe if I ever decide to run a game again, I might go try to implement this role into the game.
P.S. We really should be using the Mafia discussion topic for these kind of talks, now that I'm thinking about it.
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