Ewww.
Well, not to forget that a lot of the creative world is built on copying- in 2D visual art, sculpture, music, film etc.
"Copying" and appropriation has a long and venerable history. Nothing under the sun is truly original, -so they say.
But what it comes down to is NOT practising wholesale theft (where you don't innovate on the idea at all), and acknowledging your sources when it is required.
-personally I'd rather create my own stuff! But we have to be realistic when defining terms.
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Todd Goldman stealing from Purple Pussy?
Wow that is just sad. really it's so obvious that Todd just like traced that, and is making major money from it. It appears this little incident has exposed Mr. Goldman's other rip off jobs (like binky from "stuff sucks")
Y'know every idea has a jumping off point, or insperation. You don't have to share that little helpful push with the rest of the world, but it's always nice to acknowledge that. Especially if you end up with a good idea and the inspiring artist is uber cool. (yay stardusty!)
meh, untalented artists are always like this guy. Nothing new, but still sad.
According to this LJ post , it's been set up to auto-respond with a very insulting message about the original artist that… doesn't really seem to make a lot of sense.
*Glowers*
I mean, you do run the risk of someone taking your work if you put it online, but most people aren't gonna expect someone to take it and MAKE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY from it.
It is pretty sad that people have to deal with this. One way to help yourself out is to do a cheap copy right for yourself. This is a method that music artists have used for a while and I think web artist should use it from time to time. When you create something that is uniquely your's either print it out or use the original artwork and mail it to yourself. Once the package gets to you just put it somewhere safe. The fact that it has a post mark on it and date is proof of when it was made. If you find someone useing your work for profit, take them to court and as part of the evidence you can used you unopened piece of mail. The judge opens it and you win, of course now you have to worry about what happens the next time. It's just a cheap way to get your own proof of when you made something. People are always going to steal other's ideas, that's just part of the bad in society. The main thing is to try and report it if you see it and let the original creator do something about it.
It is pretty sad that people have to deal with this. One way to help yourself out is to do a cheap copy right for yourself. This is a method that music artists have used for a while and I think web artist should use it from time to time. When you create something that is uniquely your's either print it out or use the original artwork and mail it to yourself. Once the package gets to you just put it somewhere safe. The fact that it has a post mark on it and date is proof of when it was made. If you find someone useing your work for profit, take them to court and as part of the evidence you can used you unopened piece of mail. The judge opens it and you win, of course now you have to worry about what happens the next time. It's just a cheap way to get your own proof of when you made something. People are always going to steal other's ideas, that's just part of the bad in society. The main thing is to try and report it if you see it and let the original creator do something about it.I hate to say it, but a 'poor man's copyright' can be easily faked. All the plagiarist would have to do is mail himself an empty envelope, and when he gets it back, wait to fill it.
I also don't think 'poor man's copyrights' hold up in court.
The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a poor man's copyright. There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is not a substitute for registration.However, I think that computer files' modified dates can't be manually changed. Not sure about that though, you may be able to set your computer's clock back. Another suggestion would be to video tape yourself with the image holding a current USA today maybe? I suppose videos can be easily edited to.
Not sure about that though, you may be able to set your computer's clock back. Another suggestion would be to video tape yourself with the image holding a current USA today maybe? I suppose videos can be easily edited to.
"Ah, so you went to the library and pulled an old paper from the stacks?"
Though, in the case of traditional art, you should be able to test the ink, paint, or paper to get an approximate date of creation. Digital work…not so sure about that one.
Though, in the case of traditional art, you should be able to test the ink, paint, or paper to get an approximate date of creation…I can see that course of action may be persued for something that made a LOT of money. But the forensic testing that you are talking about would cost a pretty penny. I'm pretty sure you'd be on your own paying for it, too.
I guess unless you decide to copyright your work, you have to hope for the best and hope that the internet buzzes like this to back you up.
worse than rob lefieldHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I almost made that comparison myself. Yes, Rob has an affinity for publishing "homages" that are just barely above the classification of fan fics.
Looking through Rob's work, I think it's safe to say that Rob Liefeld has never traced.
I can see that that course of action may be persued for something that made a LOT of money. But the forensic testing that you are talking about would cost a pretty penny. I'm pretty sure you'd be on your own paying for it, too.
I guess unless you decide to copyright your work, you have to hope for the best and hope that the internet buzzes like this to back you up.
Agreed, on both points. Thankfully, given what I have seen over the years, when stuff like this does happen, people do step up to back you.
Unless you're a dismissive prick.
I still don't understand how Goldman thought he could get away with this, it's bad enough he copied Dave Kelly's work, but tracing? Is the man completely insane? Or is he just one of those people who don't think work on the internet is 'real'?He probably just thought nobody would notice, or assume that HE made it first.
Edit/// Sure looks traced to me. Here's the two pics on top of each other.
I believe this article is relevant to all of your interests...Wow! That's good info! But is it credible?
Rich: I remember reading something to that effect a while back. I think it's pretty credible.
I was at a restuarant outside Todd Goldman's gallery three weeks ago, and I totally saw stuff I thought was ripped off or unoriginal (such as a new painting of the old concept "Rock is Dead, long live paper ans scissor"). I proceeded to bitch about it to my grandfather, who didn't care at all.
His art sucks anyways.
My unintellectual post added nothing to this debate!
Has anyone made a "Dear God, I hope Todd Goldman Dies, Amen." Picture yet?
My unintellectual post added nothing to this debate!
Has anyone made a "Dear God, I hope Todd Goldman Dies, Amen." Picture yet?
Yup. Saw it in a Comixpedia response.
Yeah even I did a "down with todd comic"
http://www.drunkduck.com/Creepy_Carly/
Have you seen the e-mails he's sending out to people who've complained about this? I don't know if it's real, but I saw some screen caps and his solution is to call smorkey a pedophile and then directs people to a link of an image directory full of furry drawings and some guy taking his pants off.
yeah guy… really classy there.
Heh. someone used my overlay image for the Wikipedia entry.
Edit// Nope, I'm wrong. Someone just had the same idea. It isn't exactly the same. ;)
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