I love the Berlin Brigade camouflage. That particular tank is a Chieftain Mk. 13 "stillbrew" which is the funny looking applique armor on the front of the turret.
Right about now 120mm is about as large as it gets. Anything bigger like 135mm doesn't give you any more bang for the increased size. These days you can get incredible kinetic energy out of the depleted uranium round of the 35mm gun on a Bradley. Rounds have been developed for the old standard 105mm gun that give all the armor punching power of the 120mm. Just not the range and first hit probability of the 120mm on the M1A2, Challenger II and Leopard 2A6. But how often will we be seeing 3000 meter engagements going forward? Hence the new generation of awesome 8x8 armored gun systems all have 105mm guns.
They can take on and kill anything they are likely to meet on the battlefield. The thing is you get the AGS anywhere you need it fast, whereas M1's take forever to get anywhere in any numbers and you won't be facing down T-90s but most likely some modernized vintage T-54/5/9.
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All 100% true Bravo and perfectly accurate!
But the question was on Main Battle tanks specifically… They're generally a lot more survivable than anything else around, or at least being inside one is safer, apparently, than other ground vehicles VS any kind of attack.
So there's that other facet to being a tank- not just getting an attacking gun out there but also getting a fighting crew and useful weapons out there more safely.
bravo1102 wrote:
Actually they're based on a sound principle in camouflage. Dual-tex square camo was tried out in the 1980s and worked quite well on large vehicles but was really hard to paint. It's not to disappear but to make it really hard to make out what is being observed.
The German Fleckwear is based on the same principle of "dots" except the Germans knew not to use little squares. In fact they developed it back in WWII as the infamous SS polka-dot camouflage and the panzer "ambush" scheme.
That whole straight line thing is true but one doesn't want to necessarily blend in as make it hard to identify what is being seen. Some of the best camouflage at sea is razor sharp zig-zag bands of blues and greys. The eye can't focus on what is seen or be able to tell what is being seen or what direction it is going.
So the ACU does work but the new one is better. Thank heavens I got out when we had the old BDUs but then as a tank crewman I still wouldn't have ever experienced ACUs and would have been stuck in those nomex coveralls. Nomex doesn't breathe at all. You just sweat and sweat and sweat but look so cool like a jet pilot type.
On vehicles, I would agree. You play to the features of what you're trying to hide. As a guy who is responsible for making sure his squad comes back intact, I don't like it though. I don't want my guys just being hard to identify as soldiers. I want them hard to see in the first place and thus far that I've seen, most of the time the digital camo is pretty easy to pick out of the background. In general, I just don't think the digital cam is all that effective. But then, I also take issue with the effectiveness of a lot of the other gear I'm issued, like the standard sights on the M-16. I don't want to start a debate about all of it though, because that sort of argument could just go on for ages.
The screen name is actually a acronym. LBA. if you want a way to pronounce it I guess the phonetic "el-bee-ey" would probably be the most accurate way. Just don't ask what it stands for.
Initialisim actually, unless the initials make up a word (LASER, RADAR, C.A.T.), hence the two parts: acro and nym- meaning a word made from the beings of other words.
I win at pedantry!
LBA
Long, Black, Arms?
Lips, Belong, Anus?
Love, Beatles, Albums?
Like, Big, Arses?
Licking, Beer, Always?
Lesbian, Bottom, Administrator?
Lurking, Bealzibub, Antichrist ?
Lee Blows Alto - Lba is a West Coast, cool school jazzcat - I mean like, hip before they invented hipsters daddio - niiice.
Ironscarf wrote:Lee Blows Alto - Lba is a West Coast, cool school jazzcat - I mean like, hip before they invented hipsters daddio - niiice.
Dude, I wish. The west coast sounds like the perfect place for my art and method of living. Plus, being a West Coast cool school jazzcat would mean I had a musical bone in my body.
I'd make up some set of things it represents, but that's not nearly as interesting as what you guys can think up, and the simple truth is that even though I know it was a set of initials, I just don't remember what the heck I had in mind when I created it other than I have an odd history of picking 3 letter account names on forums.
lba wrote:If you didn't you wouldn't be worth a bucket of warm spit as a leader. I just gave you an "outstanding" on your eval. Let me look up the appropriate bullet points so I can get you the maximum promotion points. My First Sergeant knew I was a wanna-be writer so I got to come up with new bullet points for the OER and NCOER's. That wasn't quite as bad as being company artist.
But then, I also take issue with the effectiveness of a lot of the other gear I'm issued, like the standard sights on the M-16. I don't want to start a debate about all of it though,
Every leader has been saying that since at least that ancient Greek who didn't think the marginal extra protection a full bell bronze curaiss gave justified the considerable extra weight.
NCOs have been railing about the standard sights on the M16 since the weapon was adopted in the 1960s. (See The American Rifle: a biography) That's why they finally ditched the carrying handle and have all those add-on sights all the FPS gamers love.
Here's something I've been wondering about "leaders"… and it probably sounds too weird to think about…
Would they be able to spot a "Leeroy Jenkins" type among their number before they go on a surprise attack operation? The "Leeroy Jenkins" type would be a soldier who charges in regardless of what the rest of his unit is doing, guns blazing and ruining any element of surprise his unit would've had if he had gone along with the plan…
And yes… this is a weird question because normal soldiers are trained and disciplined enough to avoid this kind of thing from happening.
Why wouldn't they?
Unless the leader was new and unfamiliar with the group… Possible I think.
The more times you watch that clip, the less genuine it seems.. But I still love it anyway. The other guys reactions are the best part- all that utter dismay at having their carefully laid plans turn to crap and valiantly trying to recover from the situation as Leroy goes about yelling his head off. It's hilarious. ^_^
That would make a great recurring comedy skit, you god repeat the thing in so many situations: a hostage siltation, A Grid Iron play, a war battle plan, a bank robbery, a bunch of fire-fighters in a fire and rescue situation, a bunch of builders trying to erect a complex structure in one go… On something like Grand Designs or Changing Rooms ^_^
So much scope for disaster and dismay!
I don't think it's genuine at all. I've been told by "pro" WoW players that certain things don't happen in the actual game like they do in that vid. But it's still pretty funny… a funny version of "jumping the gun" I think…
I guess I'll join this LBA thing with…
Line Backer Attack
Lite Beer Allergy
Little Bug Army
My god mother died this morning, she was recovering after a stroke but it seems the recovery didn't take. Still she was 89 so not a bad innings. I saw her in hopital earlier in the week and had hoped to make it up again this afternoon. Don't know what to feel, I'm grieving but glad she's gone because she was always so fit and active before the stroke and even if she recovered it wouldn't have been much of a recovery. She's not suffering anymore.
You've got my condolences Genejoke. It is pretty hard loosing a loved one, heck can't even imagine how I'd take it if my mom would pass away. But in the end I think it is an experience that shapes us into what we are and quiet possibly could make us a little bit better person then we already are.
89 is a pretty good run, and like you said, you never really come back from a stroke. That really does suck though. I'd hope it was a relatively painless experience.
@Lonnehart - You can always pick that guy out of a line because he's usually the idiot at the end of the line being cussed out by a specialist or one of the NCO's for doing some dumb thing like pointing a practice rifle at other soldiers in the unit and making gun noises with his mouth. That's the guy that, if you're anything like me, you'll go out of your way to keep him away from anything and anyone important that you can.
@Genejoke - that sucks man :(
Must be hard on you. I'm sorry.
@Lba - Two words: Canon Fodder. ;)
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@Genejoke - I think you already expressed what I am thinking. For her, it's probably a great blessing. Someone who had nearly 9 decades of spirit would probably find it most difficult to try to learn how to cope with a debilitation. But for those left behind, there's a missing, and the change to absorb. Kinda echoing Gullas's sentiment: these experiences are the polish that change us from rough stones into gems. hopefully. my thoughts are with you.
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LBA: Love Being Artist – and O Lucky lba - there are still radio play pages to sign up for!
In fact! there are still eleven pages to sign up for!
Which reminds me - where's Usedbooks these days? Haven't seen a post from her in Weeks! (and I don't know how the radio play comic can be a community project verite without her contribution).
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Make that 10 pages. Woot! The big guy stepped up. *Czarinamixesitupwithanativeamerican-like/irishamericanvictoryjig - she'shighononcornedbeeffumes*
@Genejoke - very sorry to hear about your loss. But to reach her late 80's and still be active is pretty amazing.
when I lost a relative to a stroke in the past couple years I was VERY sad…but also relieved he didn't have to suffer with a disability (something I know he greatly feared and didn't want).
hope you're doing all right.
I tried recording voices for the DD radio play tryouts.
I just could NOT get a comedy German accent in those few lines! My very first attempt was ok, but not very evil and sort of failed at the end… all subsequent tries just turned into comedy French concoctions!
I think Ideally you need a range of lines to say for every character: short, long, and emotional, so you can be more rounded with them and give the listener a better idea of how you'll handle it,
And I am drawing page number 5 of the accompanying comic! Which page are YOU gonna do?
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Glorious DD soap editing for me today. Giving Banes an extremely well earned rest on that and having a go at it again. I hope my comp is up for it! This should be interesting!
Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'm okay, she was the last of that generation of my family, sad really. Especially when I think of my childhood, the family was very close, we gathered the various cousins and generations together regularly. these says not so much asit was the older generation that kept that going. In fact now we're just in contact via facebook, we know what is going on in each others lives through status updates.
Ozone, with everything going on I'm still behind on the recordings, will try and do them in the next couple of hours but I may not succeed. And I'm doing page one of the radioplay comic, I think.
Looks like the sun is out today, might be a trip to the beach coming up later.
Genejoke wrote:
Ozone, with everything going on I'm still behind on the recordings, will try and do them in the next couple of hours but I may not succeed.
It's ok, those are for next week, so there is some leeway.
Sorry again about your loss. :(
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Ak, finally edited together the latest soap recording for this week! WOW, some amazing performances in this one. Banes made me almost crap myself with laughter at his Macattack, Skool has this gorgeously weird clipped narration that is so cutely funny, Pit does a great job with the pacing of her narration… and more! Roku, Bravo, Gullas, Genejoke, all marvellous! Everyone was great!
And that's just for THIS week. More goodies to come ^_^
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