Thread "Rant, moan, rave and share - for all your chatter, natter, ETCETERA!" in forum "Comic Talk and General Discussion *"

Posted at 2:11AM, Nov. 15, 2012

The url still woks here too. Any sudden change there would make things even worse than they already are.

Mean changing links all over the place and people having to do stuff they thought they wouldn't have to do again.

I really am as stupid as I think I am. Then there are times when I outdo myself as to how blindly insensitive I can be.

Posted at 6:11PM, Nov. 15, 2012

it's back to normal url for me too now. I'm not sure what that was all about.

Posted at 7:11PM, Nov. 15, 2012

I feel weird saying "the Duck". It makes less sense to me than "Drunk Duck".

"Drunk Duck" sounds silly, like it's a name that's not supposed to be taken at face value, like it MUST mean something other than it sounds like, so its use for a webcomic community hosting site makes perfect sense.

"The Duck" only makes sense in context of the existence of "Drunk Duck", it's only a reference to that name.
Aside from that it sounds like it's referring to something, and if you don't know what that something is (Drunk Duck), then you're out of luck. Its use as a replacement name only makes sense to Duckers themselves, and therefore no sense at all since we don't need a replacement.

The name was changed so it'd be easier to market the site to advertisers, because advertisers are very stupid, nervous, sneaky, jittery people… probably all hyper conservative religious types whore secretly addicted to hyper SM bondage in the bedroom and anullingus.
Be that as it may… It probably would've been better to change the name to something more obviously about comics.
(Even a name like "Kablam" sets my teeth on edge, the guy who thought of that deserves spiders in his urethra).

Posted at 11:11AM, Nov. 16, 2012

Gadzooks Ozone, that's fighting talk!
Where do I sign?

Posted at 4:11PM, Nov. 16, 2012

Ozone, there's always the drab sensible avenue in naming then, like "Sequential Art Index" or S.A.I. XD

…wait isn't sai a cool ninja weapon?

Posted at 3:11PM, Nov. 19, 2012

Still I lurk, ready to pounce on the unwary… at least when I'm not at work. I miss when this place was active, I wonder if anything can be done to reverse the downward trend or is DD as far gone as it seems?

Posted at 4:11PM, Nov. 19, 2012

He's backstage somewhere, drowning his sorrows in bourbon. Meanwhile, this talentless upstart is hogging the limelight and driving away all the regulars - I wish he'd make a comeback. (Damn you useless forum, for not letting me embed Gene Wilder as The Wako Kid).

Posted at 9:11PM, Nov. 19, 2012

You could settle for a pic of him :)

I think part of the trouble is that many people who were active in the past just naturally get less active as life changes for them and become lurkers… new people would normally always be replacing them and making the transition unnoticeable. Lurkers would be encouraged by that activity to sometimes come back and join in.

Buuut, there are no new people to replace the old ones so it's jarring instead.
There ARE new people joining the site all the time (way less than before though), but because of the opaque forum structure the place seems less attractive to come and be a part of the community. :(

Aaaaand most people have moved the majority of their online social activity to things like Facebook and Twitter these days anyway. The dicks. :)

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My new comic with Banes is coming on apace!
Bottomless Waitress is a thing people! I even have the domain name to prove it now! Just have to host something there…
I will show some art soon ^_^

Posted at 1:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

I still haven't joined Twitter or facebook - absolutely no idea what they are for. I should probably take the plunge, though I know I'll regret it.
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You have a comic called Bottomless Waitress? Can you provide a link - I am not confident of enlisting Google's help on such a title.

Posted at 3:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

Nothing is really up yet, but I've put this temp page up on DD:
http://www.drunkduck.com/Bottomless_Waitress/

Unfortunately DD is a bit limited for the sorts of things I'd like to do… can't have pages wider than 960 pix, no domain name stuff etc, so when I get my act together Bottomless Witress will have its very own site. No hosting stuff ^_____^

Posted at 4:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

You know that typo of bottomless witress got me thinking of something called Bottomless Witness or Bottomless Witless For whatever inspriation they may provide feel free to use.

Bottomless and Witless sounds like just another weekend in Bangkok.

Posted at 4:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

Hahaha, I like Bottomless Wintress :)
She'll be a sexy blonde in fur bikini and accessories… sans bottoms! Oh my!

Woot! http://www.bottomlesswaitress.com should now work… but only points to DD. Still, you need to start somewhere!

Posted at 5:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

Going for an 'inked' style I see - I haven't seen your take on that before; looks very promising. How do you find that, compared to your more painted style, in terms of how long it takes to produce a page?
I realise this is not the proper thread for such discussions, but since we are all huddled around one campfire…

Posted at 5:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

Well I still do outlines normally, it's just that they're grey so they merge with the colour when set to multiply… but yeah, the colour style here is a cell-shaded approach.
I can't honestly say how long it'll take to do a page yet though since I haven't done one yet… but it does seem a lot faster to colour so far because I'm not second guessing all the tones and things- it's just "pick one colour for each thing" and then use a darker tone for the shadows and that's all.

I've always, always wanted to try that manga approach but always been seduced away by the rest of my palette… it just cries out to be used ^_^

I'm planning on doing minor characters and backgrounds even simpler- just linework with monochrome colour tones, Like all sepia or something like that. And if drawing the linework takes too long (probably will with me), then I'll just paint in rough blobs all in monochrome tones with minimal lines to outline broad structure.

Posted at 9:11AM, Nov. 20, 2012

You could even use one of those 'flatting' widgets, to isolate different colour areas. Some people get good/faster results that way, although I haven't had any success with them myself - my pages had too many lines I think. I've tried different techniques and concluded there's not much difference: you only save time by consciously reducing the content on the page, usually by cutting back on detail - not necessarily a bad thing.

I look forward to seeing your ongoing results with this. But won't those poor ladies catch a chill? Some establishments get awfully draughty this time of year, what with doors constantly opening and closing and such!

Posted at 12:11AM, Nov. 21, 2012

What's your new avatar? John Lennon shaving?
I will look into flatting widgets! Right now I've been mostly colouring around the edges and then using the paint bucket, but anything to try and speed up! Definitely reducing content will be a big thing though too, just because I'm so fussy at drawing. Limiting myself will make the linework faster… or if I DO keep up details I won't try for accuracy of scale, perspective and clean lines so much.

Oh these ladies can suffer for the joy the bring with their bare arses ^_^
Or maybe the heating will be really high in the diner to compensate and that'll be a story point… I'll let Banes know!

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Meanwhile, a Pinky TA page update:
http://www.drunkduck.com/Pinky_TA/5414878/

^_^

Posted at 1:11AM, Nov. 21, 2012

Not Lennon - it's the Waco Kid, cleaning up his act!

This is the photoshop flatting and multifill plugin I've heard about. Haven't used this one myself as I can't afford the likes of photoshop but I know of people who do their comics with it, so it must work! The Gimp version I tried certainly did - just a matter of adapting your linework slightly to fit the process.

Great new page! I notice you have a couple of really stripped back images on the facebook page too; flat colour and line - very nice. Brings out the design sense.

I can't believe how quiet it is here now. There'll be a special place in hell for Wowio, on that glorious day!

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Actual rant: for years I've been nobly protecting the tree at the bottom of my garden from the legions of tree hating swine who would have me cut it down. Now it seems all my efforts were in vain, as some imported mushroom is going to kill my lovely ash, along with almost every other in the UK.
Of course, there's always that chance in 10'000 I have the genetically fungus resistant mutation that makes my tree a protected specimen, meaning it can never, ever be felled - hahahahahaah! take that miserable tree haters!
Oh well, I can dream.

edit: thanks bravo - spelling faxed.

Posted at 2:11AM, Nov. 21, 2012

It's Waco Kid, not Wako Kid. As in Waco, Texas as opposed to the Warner Brothers and Warner Sister Yakko, Wakko and Dot.
Wakko

Waco Kid

Thank you. This brought to you by Warner Brothers the studio that brought you both Blazing Saddles and Wakko

Posted at 4:11AM, Nov. 21, 2012

Thanks for that scarf! I may try it out, looks expensive for the pro one I'd need , but if it could truly save time It'd pay for itself.
Those flatter images on the facebook site are probably from the crossover thing I did for Pit Face's Putrid Meat. That was fun and a LOT quicker to do, mostly, when I could restrain myself.

- As an aside about Facebook- it's a lot less use as a promo tool for comics than it used to be. Facebbok have made coding changes so nothing from your page shows up in people's feeds, even if they've liked it… so there's not too much point it having a facebbook site as a promo tool at all now.
The other side of that is that it works ok as a general news site for your work due to the posting and gallery tools, but that's about all now unfortunately.

I should'a realised about the Waco kid… hahaha!

I really hope your tree survives man! I'm a lifelong tree-lover myself and I hate to see them cut down.

Posted at 9:11AM, Nov. 21, 2012

There is a point to having a facebook promo page if you're willing to pay too much (in my opinion) to make sure people see it. money grubbing bastids.

Posted at 8:11PM, Nov. 21, 2012

Exactly!
And if you want to pay then traditional ads via Project Wonderful or something would be Waaaaay more useful because your audience isn't limited to those who already like your stuff and you can taget your demographic yourself.
Google + is probably more useful now.

Posted at 9:11PM, Nov. 21, 2012

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!! Now I know not everyone here celebrates the holiday. Not sure of the meaning long ago, but today we celebrate to be thankful for what we have and not think of what we don't have. I'm sure other countries have similar holidays…
I'm thankful that despite everything Drunkduck continues to keep going. And I'm thankful for everyone who's still here and everyone who came back.

Posted at 2:11AM, Nov. 22, 2012

Happy Thanksgiving! I don't know what this is and most explanations I've heard seem pretty far fetched but who cares - it's a party! (that story with the native Americans?)

ozoneocean wrote:
I really hope your tree survives man! I'm a lifelong tree-lover myself and I hate to see them cut down.

The prognosis seems to be that this fungus will wipe out 70-90% of all our ash trees, so it's a re-run of Dutch Elm Disease, which removed that impressive tree from our landscape in the seventies. Apparently this has arrived because we are importing huge numbers of trees - total insanity.

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I don't think I ever heard anybody say a good word about facebook and yet everybody uses it. Maybe it will become the next Myspace and Google+ will take over, making Google the overlords of the universe. Eventually we will download our minds into Google and live forever in the cloud - it'll be just like heaven, but with more advertising.

Posted at 4:11AM, Nov. 22, 2012

Lonnehart wrote:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!! Now I know not everyone here celebrates the holiday. Not sure of the meaning long ago, but today we celebrate to be thankful for what we have and not think of what we don't have. I'm sure other countries have similar holidays…
I'm thankful that despite everything Drunkduck continues to keep going. And I'm thankful for everyone who's still here and everyone who came back.

SPEAKING of thanksgiving, there was one store here who was advertising "The one and only Thanksgiving-Turkey!" I was pretty annoyed by that… But technically, like you are saying I can't be mad at that particular holiday, but I can be mad when it's forcing itself to another culture were it's not relevant…

Posted at 5:11AM, Nov. 22, 2012

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone who observes it! We don't have it in Greece but I'm very familiar with it and its background anyway, so here's to your table being full and plenty, and have things to be thankful for except the weather and your health :P