I get those National Day to Prevent Teen Pregnancy banners, too. Interesting that it shows a car and not a bedroom. Well, let us hope that some kind person out bids that ad with a cool webcomic! Win-Win.
Alright party people. I was browsing the Netflix library to see if there were any titles I could watch before falling asleep and the unquestionably schlock-filled "horror" movie Zombeavers is now available to stream. Like the title says, it is about Zombie Beavers. I wonder what they will think about next ZomBEES or ZomBEAGLES or ZomBEATLES. I want to see it because John Mayer makes a cameo at the beginning and there is a scene where one of the frat boys throws a girl's puppy off a raft to distract the zombeavers from attacking them. It has been a while since I have watched a B-Movie Horror. If anyone has seen it, please share your thoughts.
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I have not seen it. Went to Netflix last week because I heard there was a comic documentary called Stripped. I planned to watch it while ironing, but it wasn't there so I ended up watching something called The Secret, which was a hilarious mock documentary - a sort of Spinal Tap of self help videos. Highly recommended if you need a good laugh.
Ironscarf wrote:And I rewatched Spinal Tap last night - never gets old…!!!
I have not seen it. Went to Netflix last week because I heard there was a comic documentary called Stripped. I planned to watch it while ironing, but it wasn't there so I ended up watching something called The Secret, which was a hilarious mock documentary - a sort of Spinal Tap of self help videos. Highly recommended if you need a good laugh.
My wife is a big fan of B-horror movies. Sharknados, tentacle monsters, and badly acted zombie movies. I prefer movies with subtitles. But we compromise, which seems to mean that I watch those sorts of movies when I'm alone (Currently working my way throught the Zatoichi–Blind Swordsman movies on Hulu's Criterion collection). So as someone who watches these sorts of things as a sightly drunk, destracted observer … Zombie Strippers was 'fun', with terrible plot, acting and FX, but a couple of great lines. Sharknado 2 was surprisingly okay, but you'd have to watch the first one as well which is dire, but hilarious with it's terribleness. Lucy Lawless did a few terrible B-movies, such as Vampire Bats, which are fun. 90's pop-sensation Tiffany was recently in Mega-Python vs Gatoroid, which was worth a few laughs. Brooke Hogan, the Hulkster's little girl, was in 2-Headed Shark, where she showed she could act well compared to the rest of the cast. The Sharktopus range of movies, so many others … after a while they all blend into a haze of fake dismembered limbs and half-identified actors trying to defibrulate their flatlining careers.
tupapayon wrote:Only in my comics. Seriously though, Not originally but starting with Herschell Gordon Lewis's work it increasingly has come to mean that. That degenerated into exploitation movies of the late 1960's early 1970's with perhaps Invasion of the Bee Girls/Graveyard Tramps being among the best. Currently I've become interested in the spate of Nazi atrocities movies like the classic Ilsa She Wolf of the SS.
I enjoy B movies… B stands for boobs, right?…
bravo1102 wrote:Ilsa is one sick f**k of an individual … and one sick film, which I may just own a copy of. The sequels were so-so. Invasion of the Bee Girls is very silly fun. Haven't seen Graveyard Tramps … am I missing out?
tupapayon wrote:
I enjoy B movies… B stands for boobs, right?…
Only in my comics. Seriously though, Not originally but starting with Herschell Gordon Lewis's work it increasingly has come to mean that. That degenerated into exploitation movies of the late 1960's early 1970's with perhaps Invasion of the Bee Girls/Graveyard Tramps being among the best. Currently I've become interested in the spate of Nazi atrocities movies like the classic Ilsa She Wolf of the SS.
Ahh… B movies. A subject most close to my heart and horribly evident in my art. I'm a total sucker for those old grainy 50's flicks. Beginning of The End, Gamera and any of the old King of the Rocket Men-style serials they used to play before movies in theaters are some of the fastest ways to get my attention for date night. It's something about how over-the-top earnest they are about it. There was genuine effort put in, and they were still bad, but the effort makes it believable. The Blaxplotation flicks that just used "hey! Look at these jugs!" and the current crap like Machete, with the tongue-in-cheek "look at how bad we are, that's what makes it good right?", just flat out don't cut it. Give me one of the old PSA's about atomic war any day over an "homage" to the genre. I'm on a perpetual search to find old films I haven't gotten to take a look at. Sadly most of them were destroyed over the years because people didn't care about saving them at the time.
lba wrote:A good way to catch some of them is Mystery Science Theater 3000. THough seeing one on there usualy makes me want to track it down for myself. Another great source is Something Weird Video. The guy there actively works with some of the producers to track down the footage.
I'm on a perpetual search to find old films I haven't gotten to take a look at. Sadly most of them were destroyed over the years because people didn't care about saving them at the time.
I've come to appreciate Poverty Row movies of the 1940's. Fast and chaep productions using every cliche known to man. Many are so reminiscent of later crime dramas. Seems ideas just get reused. There are couple of real gems in there too like Detour the film noire classic.
I ended up watching Zombeavers and it lived up to my expectations (not that the bar was that high). I did laugh at some parts and it actually ended with a ZomBear and some ZomBees. There are plenty of reviews of the film on youtube, but they are mostly just summaries told by teenage boys, which is most likely the key demographic.
I guess B-Movies serve as a guilty pleasure. They are the equivalent of eating a bag of junk food or eating at a fast food restaurant while on a healthy diet.
Now that I have had my B-Movie fill for a while, I happily discovered that X:Men Days of Future Past is on HBO On Demand. I love this movie so much. And even though I already knew what to expect since I saw it last year, I felt my heart race during the credits and even cried during the first ten minute opening scene.
Fuck you lba, watch LEXX!
Do it!
Buy the whole series!
Love it!
Hello again from Athens… In 2 hours I fly to Dubai… Dooooo-buy…
My damn "emergency passport" means I get hung up at all the checkpoints, god knows how it'll be when I finally return to Ozstralia. Customs and immigration there are harrrrsh!
I love B movies, too - I used to find them by chance in video stores, or more likely on the Space Channel, but I got rid of cable TV last year.
I just watched the Zombeavers trailer, too - Looks like the flick has great production value and good acting ( I think so anyway; I'm not a terrific judge of acting, but it looked good to me ).
The double entendre jokes showed up twice just in the trailer. Didn't like that. I'd rather they didn't address that at all. Oh well. It looks like a worthwhile watch, though!
Funny, as everyone seemed to be watching B movies the other night, I was watching "Bloodlust" (but the MST3K version). Quite enjoyable it was! Not the best (that would be "I Accuse My Parents"), but pretty funny!
Is "Return of the Living Dead" the king of the B movies, or is it too high-budget to be considered "B"? That flick still thrills me as much as it did when I first saw it at 14.
Funny stuff… If you've not seen 'Troll 2' - do it! That movie is one of those that's so awful it's become a cult classic (sorta like 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'). I've actually met the actor George Hardy from that movie (he's a dentist in his day job), and he rolls with it. He knows it's a stupid movie but he's been to conventions and such as a guest because of it…!
KL-
I just watched "The Best Clips from Troll 2" on youtube and it started my Saturday off with giggles. The young Tom Cruise and Rob Lowe posters were timeless (and the two have not aged a day). Also, the random 80s dancing in front of the hallway mirror scene was pretty nostalgic to all those Hi-C commercials.
I have a soft spot for Cannibal Women in the Avacado Jungle of Death (1989), with a young Bill Maher, and Shannon Tweed (Playboy Playmate who married Gene Simmons of Kiss). The bad 'intellectual' jokes, and indeed the whole premise, are wonderful. It's a feminist diatribe with gratuitous toplessness, and there's a war fought over which topping (guacamole or clam dip) goes best with sacrificed male meat. But someone borrowed my copy and never gave it bad … twice. I will have to purchase a third copy.
I am wel and truly back in Perth now. It's nice to have lots of room in my own place, things are clean and ordered and my clothes aren't stuck in a bag… And I have more than a single pair of trousers to wear! Dammit, I didn't expect it to be so cold in Serbia or I would've taken more trousers.
You know what B-movies meant to me? Nudity.
After 11pm at night when I and my sister were growing up, THAT is when the good stuff came on TV. It wasn't all B movies though, some were clever art movies, or just foriegn films, but all shared the nudity and we loved to see it!
With straight out B-movies I did not care one FIG for the content, all I wanted to see was nekkid people.
When I got a bit older and was more into genre, B-movies were good because they did all the crazy SciFi and fantasy films you could want. They were bad though in that they really cheapened the genre. Really, really bad in that respect, so much so that no one would even bother putting real money in good fantasy or SciFi for decades unless it was something super special, not till things like Lord of the Rings did fantasy really break out of the B-movie shithole it'd been wedged in.
Two best things about B-movies: Nudity and the fact they'd go places A-movies wouldn't.
The staple of the B-movie fantasy pic is the barbarian. Do a barbarian picture, you can do it cheap and on the fly. Swords, guys with muscles and some medieval backlots or shithole villages and you're done. Do it in Malta where the living quarters havent' changed much since the Middle Ages. Before these were the exotic south seas or Stone Age adventures like One Million Years BC. (the original was in 1944) and going through the babes in paradise like Gods of Shark Reef. Dirty animal skins or skimpy exotic swimwear, some monster and exotic locale. There was an entire Florida film industry that churned these out in the 1960's
You know why big budget fantasies failed? From a normal guy point of view. THEY ALL SUCKED! Legend, Layrinth, The Dark Crystal. A niche audience but the normal guy wouldn't buy a ticket. It's puppets or fairies. And no explosions. You know where fantasy really did well was on TV. Look at all those vampire series (I count them as fantasy their vampires are hardly scary anymore) and Xena and Hercules. Both had huge runs. There was also Fraggle Rock (a lot more mature than you'd think)
There were also those wonderful Robert Halmi sr. mini-series. He really tried to keep fantasy going as a genre on TV. Arabian Nights, Odyssey, Merlin, great fantasy stuff that in some ways made Lord of the Rings possible. They showed you could do a big live action fantasy story as opposed to barbarian, busty girl and some bad guy (usually John Saxon or if you're really lucky Jack Palance) There were a couple of movies like Hawk the Slayer and Sword and the Sorcerer that showed what you could do. But most were like The Barbarian Brothers or Beastmaster which could try to climb over the awfulness if they decided to go camp (like Beastmaster 2)
I downloaded Lexx. I watched fifteen minutes of the first episode and was hooked. When it was shown on Sci-fi in the USA it was edited because i don't remember anything like this.
From what I recall it was the Conan movies (which were solidly A movies in every way, despite what some people who should know better have said in the past) that paved the way for barbarian fantasy.
Before them it was all "historical" and mythalogical themed stuff, like Hercules, pre-history, Sinbad, that sort of thing which had been influenced by A-movies on those themes previously…
Yeah, David Carradine and Jack Palance owned that genre.
They say that the CGI effects in he Hercules TV series paved the way for the return of A-class fantasy. I think that there was always good stuff with pracical effects out there, it's just that people didn't put enough money into it and it wasn't promoted well enough.
LEXX has a lot of great B stars in that first series: Bruce Bostwick, Rutger Hauer, Malcolm McDowel, and Steve Curry. They've been A stars but also stared in some pretty great B stuff.
The second series of LEXX is pretty up and down. There are some really crappy episodes in the bunch that are like the worst B-movies, which actually makes it beter for some reason.
Wade through the 1950-60's Italian "Sword and Sandal" movies and they're all more Robert E Howard than Homer. Hercules versus the Moon Men? Atlantis and all kinds of other places more familar from the Conan movies and a couple of decades before Conan. In fact when Conan hit the big screen it owed a lot to the Italian Sword and sandal movie. It's all heroic fantasy. Honestly just how far removed from generic evil king is Sauron? Read the Anglo-Saxon chronicle (where Tolkien got his names) and it reads like Lord of the Rings without the hobbits but with Norsemen for orcs.
The ultimate B-movie fantasy remains The Magic Sword.(1962) I discovered this on TNT one afternoon and it was magnificent. Can't beat Basil Rathbone as an evil sorcerer with a well done dragon, damsels in distress, an international team of knights on a low budget.
And then there's that other epic movie series of a great myth that rivals Lord of the Rings that no one has ever seen. Des Nibelungen (1924) by Fritz Lang. Hours and hours of silent cinema with a real hundred foot long dragon model and oodles of other great special effects that we all know and love from his later Sci-fi movie Metropolis. Yeah imagine the creative folks who did metropolis turned loose on Wagner's Ring cycle and you get the idea.
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