Ha! Personally I think it's better to have a mix of motivations :)
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I've been watching a few things recently.
One of them was RED 2.
It was a good sequel to the original
Silly over-the-top action from older, very highly regarded actors. I like that. It's still always strange to see John Malkovitch in action roles, but he's pretty much always done them.
I like how the baby naive bimbo of the group is almost 50!
That's so cool.
I mean, it's not an original movie, and it not even that novel, but it's fun and the way they mix things up with older actors is appreciated.
Hollywood used to do that all the way up till the 1980s then after that it seemed that only a very few older actors were allowed to be in any big production.
I saw Meet Cute on Amazon prime.
I did not enjoy it at all.
It's Groundhog Day and Palm Springs but done in a really boring, frustratingly irritating way with a Horrible URGH of a protagonist played by Kaley Cuoco who goes from extreme manipulator to whiny blobmonster, and Pete Davidson costarring as basically just a drink coaster of a person, a walking excuse who's personality type is what you'd get if you said to chat GPT "create me a character who's personality type is generic".
The writer was clearly someone who thinks mild recreational drug use gives them an interesting, quirky personality.
I am not sure what the appeal of Pete Davison is. He has been around for a long time and I have never found him to be funny. But I don't find him offensive like Adam Sandler, who I blame for the death of funny movies from back in the 90's.
There is a movie called "I am not okay." about a young woman trying to be an influencer who pretends to have been present at a bombing overseas when she was actually faking the vacation and hanging around at home. The love interest is a funny take on Pete Davison, always moving in slow motion followed by a cloud of green smoke. I had the sense they were intentionally parodying him. Over a unique and interesting movie, with a refreshing ending, if not great.
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 - MILD SPOILERS in form of character descriptions.
The soundtrack didn't hit me as much as in the first two movies, but that could be partially due to me liking the other songs better and this film having a darker tone. It was an overall good experience despite its flaws (feeling forced at times, like there was a wholesomeness checklist they had to go through to include everyone in certain moments and make visible character development for everyone, or how they reduced a very interesting villain with cold rationale to essentially an evil, screaming madman, presumably to make sure no one would try to agree with him and not to make him more charismatic than Kang. I haven't read the comics, but I think his logic and character would've deserved better treatment.) There's also Adam Warlock, who's surprisingly entertaining to watch as a cretin, but in almost every scene, the movie would work just fine with a random replacement character, obviously they needed to include him after all the anticipation they've built, but I wouldn't call him a driving force behind the plot in any sense of the phrase). They managed to balance out the depressive tone with the usual Drax-Mantis oneliners and managed to conclude it in a more or less emotional, satisfying way (Star-Lord's and Gamora's ending didn't convince me though that they're on the absolute best track they could be on), ultimately it's an ending that makes you appreciate the good times and forgive the bad times and an overall fine reminder that you don't need the madness of the multiverse to be entertained if you have good characters with James Gunn calling the shots.
J_Scarbrough wrote:That deserves to be in the rant thread, I was laughing SOOOoo much.
That has to be the most epic typo since this. . . .
That is what he needs to be known AS now and I want a backstory for why!
Maybe he's a horrible boss? I mean he's an aristocrat and a vampire- he has servants and a castle. He's obviously a rich old bugger…
InkyMoondrop wrote:I loved the first one because of the Gen-X focussed popculture refs but also because I saw it in a steaming hot theatre in Istanbul on my first or second day there, haha, it was a magical experience.
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 - MILD SPOILERS in form of character descriptions.
The second was NOT as good, mainly because of baby Groot (cut characters are arse), but the end was good. The Endgame stuff with them was blargh…
I AM interested to see this one though.
InkyMoondrop wrote:
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 - MILD SPOILERS in form of character descriptions.
Saw it this weekend. I liked it too. It's getting mixed reviews. Definitely goes darker than the first two, and messier, story wise. But like the previous chapters it has great regard for all its characters. I think it's a good sendoff. Not sure what the rewatch value will be for this one, or how much of a crowd-pleaser it is, for general audiences.
Fully agree that the music didn't work nearly as well in this one. Wow, did it ever fall off in that area! The music hit the perfect emotional note almost every time in the previous chapters. This time it was an emotional flatline almost every time. Not sure if it was the song choice or something else.
Great performance by the actor playing the High Evolutionary. Yeah, he was a screaming maniac. Interesting choice. It worked for me!
Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite corner of the MCU. However, I have heard reviews comparing it to the worst movie I have ever watched, The 5th Element, so I will probably not pay money to see it.
I have never rewatched it, and have never purposely watched a Luc Besson movie since. I do not love to hate that movie, I HATE it.
sleeping_gorilla wrote:
Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite corner of the MCU. However, I have heard reviews comparing it to the worst movie I have ever watched, The 5th Element, so I will probably not pay money to see it.
I have never rewatched it, and have never purposely watched a Luc Besson movie since. I do not love to hate that movie, I HATE it.
Interesting. Wonder what those review base their comparison on, it didn't occur to me. The sets and costume designs might've hit a different tone than in the previous installments, lots of alien species form communities or live in their own world and maybe the High Evolutionary evoked the image of Zorg in a few people, because of his personality, but otherwise it's still pretty much a Guardians movie.
sleeping_gorilla wrote:My unit was in the field after a hard day on the range. The ranges got shut down for a fire so we couldn't do any training. We had the time so a bunch of us climbed into a deuce and a half truck and drove onto main post for a movie. It was the 5th Element. Imagine a bunch of dog tired tank crewman in combat gear sitting in a movie theater watching that movie. I can't help liking it because we riffed on it hard because it was so incomprehensibly awful. An imaginative feast for the eyes but a really bad movie but the girl in the ribbon was okay. Then we got back on the truck and back out to the field for some sleep before we got the tanks ready for turn in. You can't hate a movie no matter how awful it is when seen under those kind of conditions.
Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite corner of the MCU. However, I have heard reviews comparing it to the worst movie I have ever watched, The 5th Element, so I will probably not pay money to see it.
I have never rewatched it, and have never purposely watched a Luc Besson movie since. I do not love to hate that movie, I HATE it.
Specifically, Call Me Chato called the Guardians of the Galaxy 3 "The same visionary mess Besson has given us in the past…"
I cite "The Fifth Element" as a movie that has everything going for it. It has wonderful background and character design and a director with a great track record. It has a great cast that gives great performances, seriously you have Bruce Willis in his prime, Mila Jovovich, Gary Oldman, Idris Elba, and Chris Tucker (great performance of a completely banal and useless character, people thought Jar Jar was bad). With all those positives it still manages to be awful.
It was the only time I had gone to a movie, the theatre was packed, and we all sat in complete silence. One lady realized what we were watching was supposed to be funny.
sleeping_gorilla wrote:
Specifically, Call Me Chato called the Guardians of the Galaxy 3 "The same visionary mess Besson has given us in the past…"
I cite "The Fifth Element" as a movie that has everything going for it. It has wonderful background and character design and a director with a great track record. It has a great cast that gives great performances, seriously you have Bruce Willis in his prime, Mila Jovovich, Gary Oldman, Idris Elba, and Chris Tucker (great performance of a completely banal and useless character, people thought Jar Jar was bad). With all those positives it still manages to be awful.
It was the only time I had gone to a movie, the theatre was packed, and we all sat in complete silence. One lady realized what we were watching was supposed to be funny.
I mean I enjoyed that film, but I was 11 when I saw it. :D I'd totally agree if this would be the first Guardians film and you wouldn't have any context to these characters whatsoever. But despite the vol 3 being overpacked and not nearly as smooth as the rest, it works pretty okay, it just works as a final chapter to the already somewhat built-up story and universe not a standalone one. Which is understandable if we consider how character-driven the whole thing is.
Am I the only one that loved fifth element. I had it on VHS and would watch it over and over. So many iconic scenes and and memorable lines… Like "chicken good" "multi-pass" and, to this day, every time I go to top of someone's drink I say "you want some more??" In a robot voice.
lothar wrote:No, I loved it.
Am I the only one that loved fifth element. I had it on VHS and would watch it over and over. So many iconic scenes and and memorable lines… Like "chicken good" "multi-pass" and, to this day, every time I go to top of someone's drink I say "you want some more??" In a robot voice.
I thought it was like a live action Moebius comics from Heavy Metal. I thought it was amazing :D
I've loved it more each time I've seen it.
It got bad reviews at the time for some reason, maybe that coloured people's views or maybe people expected something different from it?
The 5th Element is a very hyper, tongue in cheek, silly, crazy dream sort of film, a lot of people don't like that winking-at-the-camera style of thing
I recently rewatched what many consider to be one of Don Bluth's worst films: ROCK-A-DOODLE.
I've actually been a longtime defender of this movie, contesting that it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, and it was certainly one of my favorite childhood movies . . . rewatching it again as an adult, however, well, while I still maintain my opinion that the movie isn't as bad as people make it out to be, I did actually take more notice of the flaws that it had that I, understandably, overlooked as a kid. The story is not only a might clumsy (I can understand why Patou's narration was added at the last minute to help clarify a lot of things), but it's also really rushed in some spots too, especially when it involved Chanticleer and Goldie's romance. Speaking of Chanticleer, aside from his singing and crowing to raise the sun, and his relocating to the city to become a rooster Elvis impersonator, he really is a pretty personality-deprived character, and in fact, he's actually the least-interesting character in the movie, compared to how much more colorful all of the other supporting characters are. And speaking of colorful, I still do say that this has perhaps some of the most beautiful and colorful animation that any of Don Bluth's movies ever had.
Having said all of that though, my only last note is that most of the songs do still hold up very well, and are just as memorable as they were when I was a kid.
I've never seen that. I was aware of it but never watched it.
I watched Tombstone again the other night.
It's only my second ever viewing since I first saw it way mack in the day…
There was a lot I didn't remember. It was a pretty awesome movie all up. Great heroic revenge story, great costumes, great acting, excellent cinematography!
It's based on the real historical events centered around the town of Tombstone in Arizona, with the Earp brothers, Doc Holiday, Ike Clanton, Curly Bill Brocious, Johnny Ringo, and others - the famous gunfight at the OK Corral, the Vendetta ride etc.
It's all told in a very heroic, cinematic way, sort of framed as an organised crime VS the police story, like The Untouchables. With the "Cowboys" with their red sashes as a lawless, organised criminal gang, versus the Earp brothers as a mercenary, semi-vigilante group that are still a bit wild but more on the side of law and order.
The actual history was reinterpreted in some places, compressed and re-imagined. The common idea is to say "oh that's all fine if it makes a better story, no one expects a film to be an accurate portray of history…" - Which is of course ignorant bullshit.
OF COURSE audiences think what they're watching is accurate and not many will search out the real stories. It's also easy as anything to make the real events just as exciting and interesting as any re-imagining, so that is a failing in the movie. Like the scene where Doc Holiday and Johnny Ringo have their close quarters final duel… In reality Doc was hundreds of miles away and Ringo committed suicide.
-There IS room for creative writing because we don't know what people said to each other and all the many many little extra character interactions. The trouble comes when you change known details.
Aside from that failing I think it was a great western.
Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer and Michael Biehn and Powers Boothe and… thinks… Bill Paxton and Sam Elliot, made that a great movie. Compare with Kevin Costner's "Wyatt Earp" – supposedly more historically accurate, and also with great actors, but somehow a drag compared with Tombstone.
As if either can compare to John Ford's My Darling Clementine. Tombstone can and surpasses it. As far as history Man who shot Liberty Valance said it best. "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend" A lot of the story of the Wild West is legend not fact and the legend persists.
I just saw a pre code movie Three Broadway Girls (1932) that was basically Sex in the City even down to characters of the three female leads. It would influence any number of other female buddy pictures of the 1930s and 40s but being made after the Hayes Code none would be quite as raunchy. Yeah, there is nothing new. Anything you do there's some black and white movie that did it first. All the tropes were once brand new ideas and it's interesting to find the movie or play that introduced them.
Ozone of the Ocean wrote:
I watched Tombstone again the other night.
It's only my second ever viewing since I first saw it way mack in the day…
There was a lot I didn't remember. It was a pretty awesome movie all up. Great heroic revenge story, great costumes, great acting, excellent cinematography!
Oh man, that is a great western. What a cast! I just learned recently what a disaster of a production that film was. The original director was fired, and the replacement director was a total dick apparently. From watching the movie, you'd never know how troubled it was behind the scenes.
The final season of BARRY is almost over. I'm loving it - it's really swinging for the fences with some bold moves for the last season. It's kind of great when a show can actually have an ENDING, and not just looking to keep going forever. It's more common these days for shows to actually have endings. I appreciate that.
I liked the Kevin Coster version as well. He survived several shootouts and was never injured, and the movie depicts that very well.
There is a movie called Good For Nothing, that is probably the most accurate depiction of Old West gunfighting I have seen. Everyone is standing only a few feet away from each other trying to hold up these 10-pound guns and aim with them. The villain hires thugs only because he can't shoot to save his own life.
I have been watching "The Shining Girls" a mini-series starring Elizabeth Moss from Hand Maids Tale. It is a true crime story with a sci-fi twist that creeps up on you.
Watched a romantic comedy "Finding You", a Lifetime movie with an impressive budget. It was better than average but made the annoying mistake of not knowing the difference between a fiddle and a violin. Fiddling involves the sharing of traditional songs and improvisation, while the violin is a precise classical method. A violinist would not want to learn fiddling if they were trying to get into a classical music program.
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